Reallink said:If I were Nintendo, I'd be scrambling to push out a $300 loss leader in Q1/Q2 '12 cause it seems likely they'd enjoy almost 2 years (uncontested) to gobble up the entire enthusiast crowd with superior "current gen" third party ports as well as first party showpieces and a handful of Wii2/PC exclusives.
Totobeni said:-No more Kinect, make it for hardcore only like 360 when it was kid.
-New priority format for discs(as anti piracy method), something have the same size as blu-ray but better security.
-DTS/DD7.1 support
-As powerful as Radeon 6870/6970
-1TB HDD for all sku
-$300 for Fall 2012 ( with Halo 4+Modren Warfare 4 as exclusive launch titles)
Just more fuel to the 2012 fire. If the Xbox 720 wasn't on the horizon for 2012/2013 they wouldn't have started working on 'next-gen' games yet. Sure you keep up with the tech developments but they're targetting MS's next-gen hardware. With the way technology is advancing these days you don't pin down on tech that is available 3 years down the line.miladesn said:http://www.computerandvideogames.com/292541/news/just-cause-studio-prepared-for-xbox-720-arrival/
CVG asked Avalanche about next generation consoles.
Mark Rein said that if Nintendo would release a console capable of UE3 they'd be on it like bees on honey. I think that's all Nintendo needs a console that can handle modern engines and tools. Nintendo needs third party support from western publishers if they want to continue their dominance and that's the only way they're going to get it.Jonm1010 said:Heck if I knew that Nintendo wold actually get noticeably updated graphics and frame-rate ports and some interesting exclusives that pushed the hardware to close to Crysis levels, I'd buy that as a stop gap until I decide on one of the two Microsoft or Sony next gen consoles.
Assuming a 299 price tab.
Totobeni said:-No more Kinect, make it for hardcore only like 360 when it was kid.
-New priority format for discs(as anti piracy method), something have the same size as blu-ray but better security.
-DTS/DD7.1 support
-As powerful as Radeon 6870/6970
-1TB HDD for all sku
-$300 for Fall 2012 ( with Halo 4+Modren Warfare 4 as exclusive launch titles)
Reallink said:If I were Nintendo, I'd be scrambling to push out a $300 loss leader in Q1/Q2 '12 cause it seems likely they'd enjoy almost 2 years (uncontested) to gobble up the entire enthusiast crowd with superior "current gen" third party ports as well as first party showpieces and a handful of Wii2/PC exclusives.
soco said:let's be honest, have you ever not felt ripped off by the actual hardware in a console?
jagowar said:I don't see it being drastically more powerful either but I think it will be more of an upgrade than you think....
- 4 gb shared ram (the shared ram thing turned out to be one of the biggest advantages for the 360). Memory is cheap now so I can see them adding a ton of it for the next system.
- I think you will see cheaper 3.5 hard drives built in with the next system. 120 gb on the low end and 1.0 tb on the high end.
- No disc drive at all in the next xbox (this allows them to include larger 3.5 inch internal drives). I see games coming on 16 gig flash drives (similar to how the ngp will work)
- Graphics and CPU on the same chip (top of the line at the time it gets released)
- Same kinect design but is capable of tracking at 720p (and the video camera supports 720p video chat)... will also be bundled in with all systems.
Perhaps its you who will be surprised sir.Foliorum Viridum said:There's gonna be a lot of letdown people in regards to specs for next gen consoles, I think.
Take what you want, cut it in half, and you might be close. Maybe.
Maybe, but with the way the console market is going I really doubt it.Doffen said:Perhaps its you who will be surprised sir.
Foliorum Viridum said:There's gonna be a lot of letdown people in regards to specs for next gen consoles, I think.
Take what you want, cut it in half, and you might be close. Maybe.
Dabanton said:Sony definitely will Nintendo has no online service worth paying for.
Microsoft does. The tens of millions of paying subscribers are proof alone. You might not think its great, but millions of people disagree with you.bdizzle said:And Microsoft/Sony does?
As I have said several times throughout this generation, I gladly pay for Xbox Live. I find it stranger that gamers pay to play MMOs like WoW. But hey, that's me!bdizzle said:And Microsoft/Sony does?
with Halo 4+Modren Warfare 4 as exclusive launch titles)
alphaNoid said:Microsoft does. The tens of millions of paying subscribers are proof alone. You might not think its great, but millions of people disagree with you.
I would think the psp2 is a good example of where people thought Sony were going to be more conservative in terms of specs but it looks like they've created a great device by actually listening to developers before building the thing. But we don't know the price yet so we'll have to wait and see if they've really learned anything after the ps3: I think they have so i'm very hopeful of a strong ps4.Foliorum Viridum said:Maybe, but with the way the console market is going I really doubt it.
FLEABttn said:A new proprietary format wouldn't be a concern unless it were smaller than 50 gigs. I don't see a proprietary format as being an option as there's additional cost involved in making them, unless we're talking something like a GD-Rom (which is just a modified CD standard, don't believe that required any retooling at reproduction plants).
They want Xbox to be an "entertainment center in the living room". Not having blu-ray would be completely and absolutely retarded.No Blu-Ray compatibility would be odd. I mean, look at the prices, 100 for an all format BluRay writer. Read-only drives for <60. In retail.
Maybe go for some proprietary disc but no BluRay would seriously bum me out, I love using my PS3 as a player.
itsgreen said:How can people think no disc drive?
It won't be digital download exclusive:
- games are very big
- the connection needed, even in 2016, won't be in the majority of households
- they need retail partners
It won't have flashcards:
- games are very big
- memory chips are in comparison very expensive. 16GB usb stick prices have been about consistent for the last 3 years.
- guessing you would need 32GB for a normal next-gen game would mean you have 20$ costs, just for the memory card. Compare that to the 35 cents (or something similar) (including license fee) for a Blu ray disc.
It really is a no brainer.
720 will have Blu ray.
I simply disagree.FLEABttn said:To be fair, that just makes millions of people wrong.
Totobeni said:-No more Kinect, make it for hardcore only like 360 when it was kid.
-New priority format for discs(as anti piracy method), something have the same size as blu-ray but better security.
-DTS/DD7.1 support
-As powerful as Radeon 6870/6970
-1TB HDD for all sku
-$300 for Fall 2012 ( with Halo 4+Modren Warfare 4 as exclusive launch titles)
Foliorum Viridum said:Maybe, but with the way the console market is going I really doubt it.
DirectX said:I am always wanting the next thing. I buy almost every gadget I can and buy it the day it releases but for some reason I am not as anxious for new systems yet. I think because we have a lot invested in these current ones and I have 3 xbox 360's and 2 ps3's and just refreshed them with slim versions(just sold my wii). Also we have lots of games still coming that should be great and I think there is more they can get out of these current systems. I am actually ok for once waiting a bit longer for new systems.
[Nintex] said:Just more fuel to the 2012 fire. If the Xbox 720 wasn't on the horizon for 2012/2013 they wouldn't have started working on 'next-gen' games yet. Sure you keep up with the tech developments but they're targetting MS's next-gen hardware. With the way technology is advancing these days you don't pin down on tech that is available 3 years down the line.
Mark Rein said that if Nintendo would release a console capable of UE3 they'd be on it like bees on honey. I think that's all Nintendo needs a console that can handle modern engines and tools. Nintendo needs third party support from western publishers if they want to continue their dominance and that's the only way they're going to get it.
Also that's the second developer with a next-gen game in pre-production. First Epic, now Avalanche, who's next?
"Yeah, absolutely. It's actually quite an interesting subject for us - because when we worked on Just Cause 1, the Xbox 360 came out [at around the same time]. We had to do the 360 version in six months. It's an interesting place again right now, where the projects we're working on today might be coming out on [Microsoft's] next technology."
Sundberg told CVG that Avalanche has a "central engine team" who believe Microsoft is "working on something" - but had seen "nothing confirmed in terms of specs and so on". Despite being in "very close contact" with MS, he reiterated that the platform holder had "confirmed nothing".
FoxSpirit said:Hahahaha... where have you been the past years? Nintendo selling at a loss? Have you not gathered their basic company principles? The many interviews?
Nintendo will never sell a console at a loss. Imagine a console at the sucess of the Wii but costing the company money. Like they said, they aren't Sony or Microsoft, if they make a loss, there is nothing to compensate for that.
Heck, they even admitted to price-hike after all the 3DS praise. If there is a company out there going for the raw profit, it's Nintendo.
Oh yeah, and I'd rather wait to fall 2013 for a good increase in power compared to fall 2012, I want that UE3 demo. Basta.
And it IS possible to future proof yourself this far down the road, with the way the HD pipeline works you can ramp up quality in huge bounds while consuming equal amounts of power.
If I would guess, the current pipeline could produce content for 2020 simply by not downgrading assets and using the whole array of lighting and shadows. Plus Tesselation, you can by current standards throw gobs of GPU power at tesselation. And physics. And AI. Gratious amount of Filtering and general IQ improvements.
It's hard to see how to not spend any and all power that's down the next decade at least.
Doffen said:Sure, but that clearly depends on how fast both Sony and Microsoft works. I doubt Sony wanted the PS3 to be launched a year after the 360.
alphaNoid said:Microsoft does. The tens of millions of paying subscribers are proof alone. You might not think its great, but millions of people disagree with you.
Scalemail Ted said:Hope they continue to support xna.
Crazy... by 2017/2018 the average budget smartphone cound in theory run a better version of COD than your 360 can. The systems would be horribly outdated in every possible way.Canova said:wait till 2017-2018 Microsoft, by then we won't need any physical disc
They get refreshed from time to time, same thing happens with 343 Industries job postings.Doffen said:These positions got posted "March 4, 2011" according to LinkedIn.
bdizzle said:And millions more agree with me. There's more people not paying for XBL than there are paying for it. Everything that MS offers has been on PCs for yearsssssssssssssssssssss at a total cost of $0. Pretty much everything MS does is on the PSN for free. People pay 60/yr for XBL to get p2p match making. Neither of these services are worth the money IMO.
Just like horse armor on Oblivion, paying for MP is a ripoff. Between character DLC, map packs, finishing move DLC (I'm looking at you MK9!), and paying for p2p MP access; gaming has become nothing but small micro transactions that nickel and dime the customers.
DirectX said:I am always wanting the next thing. I buy almost every gadget I can and buy it the day it releases but for some reason I am not as anxious for new systems yet. I think because we have a lot invested in these current ones and I have 3 xbox 360's and 2 ps3's and just refreshed them with slim versions(just sold my wii). Also we have lots of games still coming that should be great and I think there is more they can get out of these current systems. I am actually ok for once waiting a bit longer for new systems.
RaijinFY said:Also, people who thinks they will get a GTX 580 class of GPU (or even more powerful LOL) in a closed environment are deluding themselves.