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Microsoft won't allow Xbox One/PC cross-platform play, says War Thunder dev
- Thread starter nbnt
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FPS, MOBA, RTS, MMO all come to mind. There are a couple where console controllers likely hold the advantage: fighting and action games (e.g. Ninja Gaiden or DmC).
LOL it's already happening.
I can give you what his answer would be right now:
"It's a franchise I have great love for. Obviously there's been talks about it, and we're finding the right moment to go for it, but we are definitely excited about the IP. Stay tuned for more information soon."
Not when they're not using Azure! Every dev should use it.
ChosenPredator
Banned
i feel there would somehow be a influx of cheaters if that ever does happen and that it being on microsoft servers would actually be good thing..but i have no idea wtf im talking about.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
lol Pretty much. As much as I enjoy him engaging with the community, he more often than not has nothing to say.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
No, it is entirely about "maintaining value for Gold subscribers" (by not letting them see people paying nothing getting a directly comparable service) and its why their chasing of F2P companies and titles won't work outside of directly paying them for ports.
F2P titles rely on volume of users with low barriers to entry.
Gold itself hampers both of these.
I meant by what King_Moc said the following: "Hopefully Sony will do the opposite and this will come back to bite them somehow."
I believe MS doesn't offer Cross Play because it would only devalue their current console. If people could get the same experience on the PC as they do with their XB1, what would stop them from just buying the PC version and still playing with all their console friends? It would really hurt their sales more than it would help, business wise.
And while Sony does this, and it doesn't seem to affect them, Sony and MS have always have very contrasting business policies, at least as of the last few years. Sony seems to do what they can to make the consumer happy, even if it might cost Sony a bit... Where as MS seems to only think about profits and how to increase them, even if it hampers the consumers use of the console, ie: Pay wall for apps that shouldn't have them.
Also, with this new gen, the power differences between the consoles is pretty big. Most PC'ers have a system that is about as powerful as the PS4 if not more so. Many PC'ers have a system that beats the XB1 easily. If you had to choose between either a console version of pc version, depending on which console you had, you would most likely go for the PC version over the XB1, where as on the PS4 it could be a tougher decision due to how closer the builds have seemed to be so far.
And while Sony does this, and it doesn't seem to affect them, Sony and MS have always have very contrasting business policies, at least as of the last few years. Sony seems to do what they can to make the consumer happy, even if it might cost Sony a bit... Where as MS seems to only think about profits and how to increase them, even if it hampers the consumers use of the console, ie: Pay wall for apps that shouldn't have them.
Also, with this new gen, the power differences between the consoles is pretty big. Most PC'ers have a system that is about as powerful as the PS4 if not more so. Many PC'ers have a system that beats the XB1 easily. If you had to choose between either a console version of pc version, depending on which console you had, you would most likely go for the PC version over the XB1, where as on the PS4 it could be a tougher decision due to how closer the builds have seemed to be so far.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
The nature of the F2P business model relies on high-end players (with high-end gear) being showcased as an example of "This could be YOU,
for $19.49 on your credit card
Plus, haven't you ever seen F2P advertisements? "Over 7 million registered users! Come join Cleavage Quest and [insert innuendo here]" I imagine similar advertisements will start hitting the PS4 dashboard if they haven't already, since more players = it must be good because how could 7 million people be wrong?
Wiktor
Member
I don't think you realize how F2P model works. If the game would have 10K then the ammount of people spending any money would likely be in hundreds, and those who pay a lot at most would count in dozens. Good luck trying to keep the game running and expanding it with such low consumer userbase.
Dre_G_Writer
Member
man, another dev on some other forums I go to was talking about how much microsoft indie program sucked compared to sonys.
And its shit like this that will further the gap between sony and microsoft.
Sony going to have the massive PS2 era game library and microsoft gon be sitting there kicking rocks if they dont change up those policys. But sony will force their hand, just they are doing with the price cut and the rumored microsoft VR. Microsoft been doing nothing but playing catch up since the reveal of their console.
And its shit like this that will further the gap between sony and microsoft.
Sony going to have the massive PS2 era game library and microsoft gon be sitting there kicking rocks if they dont change up those policys. But sony will force their hand, just they are doing with the price cut and the rumored microsoft VR. Microsoft been doing nothing but playing catch up since the reveal of their console.
Boogalogist
Member
Wait a minute, where's War Thunder on the US PSN? Talk about not enough install base...
Yep. There's technically no such thing as F2P on either 360/XB1 because of their desire to make sure most of its functionality is locked behind a subscription service.
The best thing about live is that it's closed. So long as the console doesn't get hacked you know online is fair. You only have to look at the recent PC Titanfall aimbot thing to see what we avoid without cross play. I don't want it to become the norm and I don't want to have to sit at a coffee table with a mouse to compete. I definitely don't want cheat bots.
Sure, some games would be ok cross play but it's a dangerous precedent. I hope it doesn't become common place on my PS4 either.
Sure, some games would be ok cross play but it's a dangerous precedent. I hope it doesn't become common place on my PS4 either.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Probably the most shocking news of the year so far * cough *
No sense at all in that stance of course but there it is.
Shame too because War Thunder is damn good fun. I honestly have no issue fighting against people who may be using a mouse / keyboard. Can't really tell which is which.
No sense at all in that stance of course but there it is.
Shame too because War Thunder is damn good fun. I honestly have no issue fighting against people who may be using a mouse / keyboard. Can't really tell which is which.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
I personally wouldn't want to play with PC gamers but it would be good to have the option for people who do.
With most of it's small userbase gobbled up by the big titles.
Really, it makes zero sense to be limited to your platform's purchase base with multiplayer games. You shouldn't be punished for buying it for the wrong hardware - and having the maximum potential playerbase by not slicing in it two or in fours is just a whole world of making good sense.
SwiftDeath
Member
Could be. Not sure why MS would care but Sony doesn't seem to though
It's odd behavior imo
Isn't FF XIV more of a cooperative MMO style game? Even an FPS like Borderlands 2 was perfectly playable with other people while using a 360 controller, which I did throughout my entire PC playthrough of the game, because I'm sitting 6 feet away from a 65" TV that is my computer monitor. The controller simply works better with my setup.
Anyway people saying Microsoft is doing the right thing here by excluding games because of crossplay are simply fanboys. Making an excuse like the controls would hold an advantage on a specific platform is wrong if PS4 is capable of mouse/keyboard and PC is capable of controller.
Either way it's a silly argument for why one platform allows crossplay and the other doesn't.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
I would be falling asleep if I played FF14 with KB+M. The controller is the thing that makes it interesting even though I know KB+M is better. It's just a new feel to the game and makes it a bit challenging.
I had no fun at all playing the PC Beta, but I enjoyed the PS4 beta greatly.
I had no fun at all playing the PC Beta, but I enjoyed the PS4 beta greatly.
What makes you say that they're working on it? 2 newish games aren't coming out on the system for the crossplay reason. Did I miss some news?
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Why would they want to work on it when they're trying to get everyone to use their cloud servers?
I think that's the reason why they aren't allowing it.
Bubble Walrus
Member
War Thunder on PS4 is amazing. Just saying.
tensuke
Member
I was going off this quote from the OP:
It may be nothing, but it may also mean something is in the works. That's what I took from it anyway.