Tranqueris
Banned
This became easier to deal with once I got past the parts with
Shelob
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Middle-earth: Shadow of War |OT| Attempted Mordor
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This became easier to deal with once I got past the parts with
I kind of liked Shelob to be honest. Enigmatic, sinister, sympathetic to your cause but you also got the impression she also kind of wanted to just eat Tallion.
NullPointer
Member
*END GAME SPOILER TALK*
I don't think he is. For once he's actually allowed to die. Him planting his sword in the ground is a way of showing his spirit is finally at rest and can leave the circles of the world.
wesleyshark
Banned
Lmao
finally managed to defeat the legendary orc that kicked my ass a bunch of times. tried going solo all the times i fought him but this time one of my orcs had an ambush mission against him and i took the opportunity to get a bodyguard and went after him. made short work of him and shamed him into taking off iron will. now this bastard is back in my army and i hope he won't betray me again.
Ordinaryundone
Member
Shelob would have worked better if she just wasn't, you know, Shelob. Now, Shelob is considerably more than just your average F-150 sized Arachnid but they do make it clear that being a spider is kind of her thing. She's a descendent of Ungoliant after all. And there is certainly no precedent that I know of for her turning into a sexy lady and showing people the future. Does the Shelob from the game really remind you of the Shelob from the story? The one who gets mortally wounded by Samwise freakin Gamgee? It's just so weird that they used a very established character in such an out of character role, even if the role itself wasn't bad.
You know who would have worked super well in the role as well as being a Tolkien lore deep cut? Queen Beruthiel of the Black Numenoreans. It could have been her spirit or something if they didn't want her to somehow magically be alive. She'd already have a reason to be in Mordor, hate Sauron while still being evil, covet and understand rings of power, and most of all, she'd have a reason to actually look human. Plus, magical spy cats! For reference, characters like the Mouth of Sauron are Black Numenoreans.
mercenar1e
Member
he ambushed and tried to kill me so i chopped that fuckers head right off.
Pheace
Member
Has the same effect on me as it has on the other orcs, feels bad >.<
I think my game is busted...
Everytime I try to load the game from the menu, it loads for about 10 seconds, freezes, and then it closes out to the Xbox dash.
Tried it a few times yesterday and just now again. I was a good 10 hours in... might just drop it until I get my X and play it fresh on there. I'm bummed.
Everytime I try to load the game from the menu, it loads for about 10 seconds, freezes, and then it closes out to the Xbox dash.
Tried it a few times yesterday and just now again. I was a good 10 hours in... might just drop it until I get my X and play it fresh on there. I'm bummed.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Is it possible to die to a worm?
WheelHoss1
Member
Great idea ... except you seem to think that anyone at Monolith has read The Silmariliion ... or the Trilogy ... or even the cliff notes. Not likely.
Poodlestrike
Banned
They also don't have the rights to anything except LOTR and The Hobbit, I think. Just the stuff that got made into movies.
Ordinaryundone
Member
Ha, pretty much. Though a lot of their extra compendium stuff is pretty accurate, or at least SOUNDS plausible. I don't doubt most of it is made up but if they didn't read the books they at least had the wiki open. I mean, Celebrimbor uses Gil-Galad's spear, clearly someone over there is a fan. It was probably more of a decision based on including characters casual fans would recognize, like Gollum or how Eltariel is connected to Galadriel.
Brian Griffin
Member
Have you not watched interviews with Mike de Plater? More than once I've seen him go off on lore tangents when the interviewer asked him about the combat system or something. Dude is a huge LOTR nerd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxRVeyzuO7o&feature=youtu.be&t=7m15s
Ordinaryundone
Member
I don't think you can, from what I can tell they always try to run away when they see you. Maybe one could somehow "kill" you on accident by pushing you into a fire, but tbh I don't know if you can even die by burning from non-enemy sources.
Had this as well, the first guy I dominated betrayed me and later came back as "The Stitch".
Ghostmaster
Member
The Nazgul quests are pretty good, that fire and something something one is actually the hardest thing I did in this game. I like the small vignettes too.
I'm still baffled that they went with this time period though. It seems like it would have been far better to have gone back to early Sauron or even Morgoth times. Most of the interesting stuff in this game pertains to those early days anyway. The fact that this game takes place between the Hobbit and LOTR doesn't seem to have any bearing on the story so far.
I'm still baffled that they went with this time period though. It seems like it would have been far better to have gone back to early Sauron or even Morgoth times. Most of the interesting stuff in this game pertains to those early days anyway. The fact that this game takes place between the Hobbit and LOTR doesn't seem to have any bearing on the story so far.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
This games pretty fun. I got halfway through Act 2 on Nemesis and decided to just drop it down to normal. The game is pretty relaxing to play so I didn't want to actually focus. So normal mode is perfect for just mashing.
I feel like I've been playing a really long tutorial until I got to my first siege. Sieges is where this game shines. Building up your base or your offensive and going in. Everything else feels boring after you get a taste of the sieges.
I feel like I've been playing a really long tutorial until I got to my first siege. Sieges is where this game shines. Building up your base or your offensive and going in. Everything else feels boring after you get a taste of the sieges.
ShemhazaiX
Member
As much as I hate stupid sexy Shelob, Ungoliant was a shapeshifter and chose spider form. It's not a huge stretch to consider that Shelob would possibly inherit that ability and just never used it in the books.
I'm not condoning their decision, but it is possible to support it using the lore, albeit a very flimsy defence.
I played the first game twice and am in act 2. I have become death; destroyer of worlds. I cleave through the game with wreckless abandon and honestly have a great time doing it. Is hard mode significantly frustrating? I almost always stay away from non normal difficulty settings, but this almost feels too easy.
Right now I can't see any need for those loot boxes. Hasn't been the problem people made it out to be. Maybe it changes in the third act.
Right now I can't see any need for those loot boxes. Hasn't been the problem people made it out to be. Maybe it changes in the third act.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
HA!
A level 15 regular captain just killed my level 47 legendary in the pits. He got dazed and there was no recovery.
Dammit.
At the same time, he must not have been a very good legendary. The rest of them have been destroying the maggot pits in like 20 seconds.
Ah well. Maybe I'll get a lucky roll and a legendary will show up in the pits and I can throw one of my low levels at him.
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A level 15 regular captain just killed my level 47 legendary in the pits. He got dazed and there was no recovery.
Dammit.
At the same time, he must not have been a very good legendary. The rest of them have been destroying the maggot pits in like 20 seconds.
Ah well. Maybe I'll get a lucky roll and a legendary will show up in the pits and I can throw one of my low levels at him.
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It hasn't been a problem for me and I think I'm a decent length into Act IV. Most of what I've done in most regions has been a mixture of regular and epic captains. Except for Nurnen. I had all legendary warchiefs (well until now) with epic bodyguards.
Bigboss242
Banned
First time breaking an orcs mind wasnt fun I just felt bad.
Conkerkid11
Member
I think I'm done with this game. Just don't like the Shadow War gameplay loop at all, and I'm tired of all the cheap deaths.
At this point, all the enemies just adapt to everything within two uses of those attacks, and then it boils down to getting lucky hits on them when they're not looking. That's not fun. Time to move onto The Evil Within 2 and wait for Destiny 2.
At this point, all the enemies just adapt to everything within two uses of those attacks, and then it boils down to getting lucky hits on them when they're not looking. That's not fun. Time to move onto The Evil Within 2 and wait for Destiny 2.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Bruz is the overlord of Gorgoroth for me and I got a drop from the chests to be able to make him legendary. I wonder if any online player who invades that get's the "It's his fort. It's always been his fort." lament. I hope so!
RichiRamjag
Member
Yeah, adapting is cool, but it happens a bit too fast imo.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Because you spammed it.
HashtagLapsed
Member
Im not up to Shadow Wars yet but Im running into aimilar issues with adapting. Especially those slayer guys with two axes.
I was just doing an online retribution and he ended up adapting to basically everything. I could possobly do. Then he hit me for half my health and lol no chance.
A Serious Man
Member
There are definitely some shitty legendaries out there. I ran into one today that had three fatal weaknesses, one of which was headshots. Didn't even bother trying to recruit him, shot him in the head once and collected my loot.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
I really enjoy this game. I'm playing on nemesis mode and sometimes the game just throws extremely difficult tasks at you. I've died plenty, and it lights my fire. I have to exact my revenge before I turn it off, which sometimes means I end up playing it longer than I mean to. It's very fun.
i'm a bit disappointed because I've run into two 'The Gluttons' so far. At least they were in seperate zones.
I got a mission to rescue two of my followers and completely randomly (well, not randomly) they were a gibbering lunatic and a guy who just wouldn't shut up about going I KNEW IT, which i found rather enjoyable
I got a mission to rescue two of my followers and completely randomly (well, not randomly) they were a gibbering lunatic and a guy who just wouldn't shut up about going I KNEW IT, which i found rather enjoyable
RubberLuffy
Banned
I killed a guy named Takra The Rhymer, he was not good at fighting or rhyming.
He came back angrier, but died again.
He came back AGAIN, and I finally put him down for good, and he said I "out-rhymed" him. It was pretty good.
I also had a guy named Ghash The Iron Willed and he beat me enough times to go from level 16 to 21, and he humiliated me each time and just walked away. He was fireproof (which sucked because all my gear happens to be fire based atm), vault proof, had a big shield and hit like a truck. I finally killed him and got nothing good because he wasn't even Epic or higher.
Finished Act 1 and all the story missions so far have sucked. Running around the world, getting into fights, terrorizing orcs is fun, tho. Following NPCs around, not so much.
He came back angrier, but died again.
He came back AGAIN, and I finally put him down for good, and he said I "out-rhymed" him. It was pretty good.
I also had a guy named Ghash The Iron Willed and he beat me enough times to go from level 16 to 21, and he humiliated me each time and just walked away. He was fireproof (which sucked because all my gear happens to be fire based atm), vault proof, had a big shield and hit like a truck. I finally killed him and got nothing good because he wasn't even Epic or higher.
Finished Act 1 and all the story missions so far have sucked. Running around the world, getting into fights, terrorizing orcs is fun, tho. Following NPCs around, not so much.
Freezasaurus
Member
My biggest fuck-up so far was when I accidentally killed three of my own captains. I forgot that blue meant friendly. I lost three good captains to my own sword.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
I've been seeing your posts in this thread and I have no idea what your goal is.
You clearly know what you're doing.
And yes, depending on the situation an orc will have last words. More often than not.
Right now I think that you know that.
my goal is to extract the maximum enjoyment out of the nemesis system that is possible and right now because I don't completely understand the system I don't know what to do to trigger things. Sometimes they have last words, sometimes they don't. Sometimes I have to do a last chance kill to kill them, sometimes I don't. I don't understand 100% of the time what triggers what and whether or not I'm doing orc magic that affects anything or if it's completely 100% random and I should just take a chill pill.
All I can say is that people have amazing stories about some fucker coming back from the dead seven times to gut them while I've conquered three zones so far and the closest to that I had was the first guy who came back with a beehive in his head, became overlord, then i stabbed him.
The AI of your captains in pit fights is incredibly frustrating to watch, especially when it's epics and legendaries. When you fight them they go all out, using everything to murder you relentlessly. When you put them in a fight fight they dance around each other, miss constantly, and/or one or both combatants start spamming grabs. It's so frustrating to watch.
I havent paid any attention to this because the first game burnt me out but I decided to rent it on a whim.
Does it pick up pretty quick? Ive played a few hours and it just feels exactly the same as the first to me with some slight differences. Not even like typical sequel sameness but it strikes me as like playing a dlc expansion.
Does it pick up pretty quick? Ive played a few hours and it just feels exactly the same as the first to me with some slight differences. Not even like typical sequel sameness but it strikes me as like playing a dlc expansion.
FF Seraphim
Member
Got an Epic orc named Grom the Screamer, he just screams. I am making him a warchief and hoping someone invades me for the hilariousness.
Pheace
Member
Push the story to act 2, that's when the game expands
BananasWithGuns
Member
Finally got around to starting the game. Am I right in my assumption that I shouldn't open my gold chest and promotional chest until the late game?