I recently rewatched Stranger than Paradise and what struck me was how the movie manages to convey such a cool tone, considering the characters are remarkably uncool. They all want to be cool, and they all act cool, but it's all for show. Contrast that with the Japanese dude in Mystery Train, who is so fucking cool without even really trying.Saw Paterson today. I liked it as expected, but it didn't quite hit the highs of a say Stranger Than Paradise or Mystery Train. Solid 4/5. The Berkeley crowd was a bit much though; the dog elicited guffaws every time he appeared on screen, when chuckles would've sufficed. Now I've seen 10.5/12 of Jarmusch's films (fell asleep during Dead Man and skipped Limits of Control). Still chasing that initial cool achieved in Stranger.
People who act like it's sacrilege to not have T2 in thier top 3 are weird since Jackie Chan has like 4 T2s by himself. Take a chill pill brehs
Wow you guys weren't kidding, Spectre is bad. Worst Bond film I've seen since Die Another Day.
Y'all were talking about the best action movies, and if we separate action movies from martial arts movies (just to make it easier) i gotta be honest, i'd put Craig's Casino Royale up there in the top 10.
Cool, now thanks to this very detailed opinion and explanation I can now understand it's THE WORST. Thank you.
Plot doesn't make sense.Cool, now thanks to this very detailed opinion and explanation I can now understand it's THE WORST. Thank you.
Plot doesn't make sense.
Action is bad.
Villain is laughable.
Bond is particularly assholish.
The bondgirls are particularly throwaway.
yeah. god damn did it look nice though, great cinematography and you could see the absurdly high budget on screen in the fashion, location shoots and cars.
but what a boring piece of crap it was. dull and nonsensical plot (or maybe it was easy to follow and I was just too bored to bother). I thought I was in for something pretty solid with that slick opening with Bond bouncing from the chick's place in Mexico and wearing that Day of the Dead costume. I loved that. but man was the rest of the film (and even that opening action scene in general) boring.
A shame too since I thought Skyfall was alright. no particularly great but it got the job done. and of course Casino Royale is such an entertaining Bond movie and just action film in general.
Y'all were talking about the best action movies, and if we separate action movies from martial arts movies (just to make it easier) i gotta be honest, i'd put Craig's Casino Royale up there in the top 10.
Also has the most bizarre, casual and unexciting car "chase" that I've seen.
Omg that movie has so many fucking quick cuts that is is jarring. Definitely a step down from the firstNo mention of Quantum of Solace though.It's THAT forgettable.
You are dead to me. I felt the same about John wick 1 but number 2 8: easily among the goatsWhat is wrong with me and these John Wick movies, man? John Chapter 2, as with the first, seems like a movie tailor made for me, but I just can't get into them like others seem to. I can see the craft, in the production, in how they show all of Wick's action in stable wide screen framing, in the no nonsense approach to gunplay and magazine capacity. And I appreciate the world building most of all because, with 2 movies that stick close to thier clear central motivations, the assassin world is the only thing providing some color on a narrative level.
And yet, even with all this, I'm still left with the feeling I was when I came out of the first one: Ehhh, that was ok. The best parts of the movie for me were the intro, and the, both occurring well outside of what we've come to know as "John Wick action." And when that action finally does occur, my eyes sort of glaze over after the first few kills. Like, it's ok to have some repetitive encounters in a third person shooter, especially if it had mechanics as cool as John Wick, but as a movie it starts to get... not boring, but too efficient, too normal. I still think it all feels too clean, too easy, too weightless. There's no tension, and though they do try to vary the rhythms of shootouts a little more in the sequel, particularly in Wick's fights with his assassin equal, that variety comes in the form of comedy, which is fine, but does nothing to aid that lack of tension. It's not exhilarating. Idk if that comes from how the action is constructed, or if the narrative doesn't provide a strong enough engine for the whole thing, maybe both, but it doesn't make me giddy in the way it should.sister's assassination
So, ehhh. Ok movie, I appreciate it for what it does, especially in 2017 and after watching Resident Evil The Final Chapter, but it doesn't touch my favorite action movies.
You are dead to me. I felt the same about John wick 1 but number 2 8: easily among the goats
What is wrong with me and these John Wick movies, man? John Wick Chapter 2, as with the first, seems like a movie tailor made for me, but I just can't get into them like others seem to. I can see the craft, in the production, in how they show all of Wick's action in stable wide screen framing, in the no nonsense approach to gunplay and magazine capacity. And I appreciate the world building most of all because, with 2 movies that stick close to thier clear central motivations, the assassin world is the only thing providing some color on a narrative level.
And yet, even with all this, I'm still left with the feeling I was when I came out of the first one: Ehhh, that was ok. The best parts of the movie for me were the intro, and the, both occurring well outside of what we've come to know as "John Wick action." And when that action finally does occur, my eyes sort of glaze over after the first few kills. Like, it's ok to have some repetitive encounters in a third person shooter, especially if it had mechanics as cool as John Wick, but as a movie it starts to get... not boring, but too efficient, too normal. I still think it all feels too clean, too easy, too weightless. There's no tension, and though they do try to vary the rhythms of shootouts a little more in the sequel, particularly in Wick's fights with his assassin equal, that variety comes in the form of comedy, which is fine, but does nothing to aid that lack of tension. It's not exhilarating. Idk if that comes from how the action is constructed, or if the narrative doesn't provide a strong enough engine for the whole thing, maybe both, but it doesn't make me giddy in the way it should.sister's assassination
So, ehhh. Ok movie, I appreciate it for what it does, especially in 2017 and after watching Resident Evil The Final Chapter, but it doesn't touch my favorite action movies.
Wick 2 is way more tense and has more varied set pieces. From vast weapons, characters, more plot structure.I don't even understand that position, tbh. JW2 just feels like the first one but more, with a way less emotionally charged center. Hell I'd even be ok with that if it felt like one of those detached European arthouse assassin movies, but it's just Wick moving from similar encounter to similar encounter, no sense of the actual world around him or what's boiling inside of him. The plot's not clever, the storytelling is transparent, the forward momentum is never derailed for interesting tangents. It's all very business, not loose enough, not weird enough. No matter how I try to look at the movies I'm not satisfied, not all the way, and not the way (seemingly) everyone else is.
But again, I appreciate that it exists, if only so other directors can see a successful action franchise that doesn't make your head hurt with its editing.
I think you're watching the wrong movie if you're looking for tension. Unless he's fighting off other hitmen, the movie obviously is extremely self aware about his god mode haxor aim bot status which is what makes it so enjoyable. These films to me are all about wanting people to fuck with him just so I could see how he'd kill them. They keep telling all these stories about'em yet still some decide to fuck with him.
Wick 2 is way more tense and has more varied set pieces. From vast weapons, characters, more plot structure.
this sums up how I feel :|. I don't think the series is for youAnd I understand that, but it still didn't feel varied enough for me. Wick has a very simple method of dealing with enemies and they don't deviate, even with his hand to hand kills. Like how many times can I watch him grab someone's arm, do the spin/toss, headshot one guy, then turn back to headshot the guy he's holding? It's a shooter on easy mode, which is funny for like 5 minutes.
I already pointed out that the movie did try to switch it up more than the first, but I still don't agree that it's any more tense than the first. I know Wick won't die, but I never even worried that an action scenario wouldn't go exactly how he expected it to. And the plot isn't delivered anywhere near as interestingly as it should to make up for the lack of emotional investment compared to the first. Way too much is revealed up front to the viewer, and laid out exactly as it will occur.
But I don't want to drag this out. It's been 2 movies, they are what they are, and they aren't that great to me. Everyone else loves em, that's cool.
What is wrong with me and these John Wick movies, man? John Wick Chapter 2, as with the first, seems like a movie tailor made for me, but I just can't get into them like others seem to. I can see the craft, in the production, in how they show all of Wick's action in stable wide screen framing, in the no nonsense approach to gunplay and magazine capacity. And I appreciate the world building most of all because, with 2 movies that stick close to thier clear central motivations, the assassin world is the only thing providing some color on a narrative level.
And yet, even with all this, I'm still left with the feeling I was when I came out of the first one: Ehhh, that was ok. The best parts of the movie for me were the intro, and the, both occurring well outside of what we've come to know as "John Wick action." And when that action finally does occur, my eyes sort of glaze over after the first few kills. Like, it's ok to have some repetitive encounters in a third person shooter, especially if it had mechanics as cool as John Wick, but as a movie it starts to get... not boring, but too efficient, too normal. I still think it all feels too clean, too easy, too weightless. There's no tension, and though they do try to vary the rhythms of shootouts a little more in the sequel, particularly in Wick's fights with his assassin equal, that variety comes in the form of comedy, which is fine, but does nothing to aid that lack of tension. It's not exhilarating. Idk if that comes from how the action is constructed, or if the narrative doesn't provide a strong enough engine for the whole thing, maybe both, but it doesn't make me giddy in the way it should.sister's assassination
So, ehhh. Ok movie, I appreciate it for what it does, especially in 2017 and after watching Resident Evil The Final Chapter, but it doesn't touch my favorite action movies.
I would say it is exceptional all across the board action wise.echoes my thoughts, although I think 2 is good and way better than the first. By American Action standards, this franchise is exceptional.
He is so corny and stiff in the first one. He is like that in a lot of movies tbh. He moves a lot more naturally in the sequel.Yeah I couldn't get into the first. Maybe it's the strange love affair people seem to have with Keanu
Yeah I couldn't get into the first. Maybe it's the strange love affair people seem to have with Keanu