StarCreator
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The original arcade hardware preserves high scores for all eternity (or until the battery on the board dies). The 360 ports also have no issues saving local scores.
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Mushihimesama (Steam) |OT| More "bugs" than Batman!
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The original arcade hardware preserves high scores for all eternity (or until the battery on the board dies). The 360 ports also have no issues saving local scores.
Might not help much with how big scores can get, but on the continue screen try to keep a mental note of your score, like a loose ballpark. Or round up to an easier number to remember and make that your checkpoint/goal. Not a super great way of doing things but pretty simple when you play enough.
If you get really into it, pay attention on the level end screens and you can remember about how much you should have by each level. Another trick is if you're getting the score based life extends, remember where you are when you hear the extend sounds. It's nice when you're used to hearing it on a particular level/section consistently, then all of a sudden one day hearing a lot earlier.
(little things I've picked up from playing PCBs and not having the luxury of saved leaderboards on mine
)SmiteOfHand
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This would be nice since keeping track in your head can be error prone. I have had a few ideas how to solve it outside of the game.
Old school solution: Keep a stack of tokens around (can be practically anything from quarters to fancy arcade tokens/poker chips [that you totally didn't steal]). Set a token down to start the game.. stack one each continue.
New School solution: Any smartphone (or if you are fancy enough to have a smartwatch) will have a counting app.
Cool School solution: Would be relatively easy to have an application that reads the input for 'start' (or whatever button continues) from the controller to keep track each time it is pressed. Could even do fancy stuff like setting a variable limit so after say 5 times pressing continue it will swallow the input and not propagate it to the program.. effectively allowing you to define a custom credit limit for any game.
I agree with all of this, but I don't really have a lot of exposure with communities where I see people shitting on others for their skill. Generally I only see people suggesting that others go for single-credit clears.
I feel the need to be clear on this because I think it's a stance that can be easily misinterpreted: I've been very adamant about suggesting that people go for 1CCs and generally critical about credit feeding over the years not because I have any interest in belittling others (I'm pretty sure the numerous STG players around here that are significantly better than me would ether me if that were the case), but because I strongly feel it's both the most enjoyable and effective way to learn these games. I think entering a stage you've never seen before, never heard before, never felt before is a wonderful experience. I think that restarting from the top each time keeps you on your toes and keeps stages burned into your brain much more effectively than becoming numb to death after death while coasting through them. And I think that most new players don't understand how accessible this method of play really is (can't blame them), so I push for new players to try it and I push for developers disabling continues by default and so on.
I definitely agree wholeheartedly with this bit - in fact I wish training mode locked stages until you've reached/cleared them in score attack first.
SmiteOfHand
Member
It is a tough balance, and the games themselves don't make it any easier as we've discussed previously with the endless continues by default. My preference is to also practice section repeatedly until it becomes solid. I think this comes from a background of practicing musical instruments. But I also understand that not everyone is wired this way and can burn out or become discouraged seeing the same block of 900 pixels over and over so full runs with loads of continues that they slowly improve on the whole over time may be more appealing.
It is cool that both types can be happy so I try to encourage people to go with their preference.
It is a probably a good idea to record any replay you care about immediately out to a video. Upload it to youtube and set it to private if you don't want it stealing hard drive space. At least until the patching settles down so the possibility of replay breaking is less likely.
Very close to doing a 1CC Novice Maniac; choked at the final boss with 10% health left. Next time I'll try not to die with full bombs in stock.
Also tried Ultra Original for the first time and lol. Used a bunch of continues and gave up at the Stage 2 boss. That mode is hilariously obnoxious.
Also tried Ultra Original for the first time and lol. Used a bunch of continues and gave up at the Stage 2 boss. That mode is hilariously obnoxious.
it's a bug related to changing the screen settings. try it again without ever going into the options after launching the game
petran79
Banned
Mushihimesama reminds me of Apidya, an old Amiga game. A spiritual successor so to speak.
Ironically this was made by western developers, yet advertised as a Japanese game
Had an iconic soundtrack too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL35iG7Q8vk
Ironically this was made by western developers, yet advertised as a Japanese game
Had an iconic soundtrack too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL35iG7Q8vk
The_Super_Inframan
"the journey to a thousand games ends with bad rats. ~Lao Tzu" ~Gabe Newell
I still have my Amiga version of Apydia somewhere in the basement together with my Amiga... The OST was by Chris Hülsbeck, right? He always made good stuff
Finally 1CCed Novice Maniac, took me around ten hours but now I'm pretty good at that mode... I suck so hard at these games but there are soooo much fun to play
LordGorchnik
Member
Finally just 1cced 1.5 Normal mode last night. Was an absolute blast finally clearing it. Now to go for the coveted "no-death/no-bomb" run.
I really hope we get Futari sooner rather than later along with other great CAVE games.
I really hope we get Futari sooner rather than later along with other great CAVE games.
SixMachine
Member
So I have a problem with using my ds4. I use my ds4 for pc games by using inputmapper that basically makes it act like a xbox 360 controller. It has worked perfectly for most of my games and even xpadder. For some reason Mushihimesama makes it constantly scrolling, like on the title screen and when I'm playing, the character will be moving with no input. Is there something I can do to fix this? No other game I have has this issue with the ds4.
edit: nvm It seems I need to run some games with Inputmapper on administrator and have exclusive mode on.
edit: nvm It seems I need to run some games with Inputmapper on administrator and have exclusive mode on.
salazar547
Member
Hi , so since i still need gedosato to play this game i would like to know if someone here can help me with setting it up , my main issue atm is that the game starts at 720p in fullscreen mode and since my monitor has a resolution of 1360x768 the game doesnt look good ( looks blurry and also the game brightness increases for some reason ), so yeah what do i need to add in the config file to make it work better with my monitor.
Even at 720p the game shouldn't look that blurry. What are your computer specs?
For GeDoSaTo you shouldn't need to add anything to the config file. Default GeDoSaTo settings should make the game render at native 1360x768.
salazar547
Member
now that i checked again i know whats the issue, when the game starts it changes my monitor resolution to 720p , if i manually change it back to 1360x768 the game looks fine, any way to force my monitor to not change resolution?
How did you manually change it back to 1360x768?
Are you using default GeDoSaTo settings?
Also again what are your PC specs?
salazar547
Member
ok 1st here are my spec:
Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU: Intel Core i3 2120 @ 3.30GHz
RAM: 8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3
Motherboard: MSI H61M-P20 (G3) (MS-7788) (SOCKET 0)
Graphics:
- SyncMaster (1440x900@60Hz)
- LG TV (1360x768@60Hz) -> thats the monitor im using to play the game atm
- Intel HD Graphics (MSI)
- 1024MB ATI AMD Radeon R7 200 Series (Sapphire/PCPartner)
Audio: Realtek High Definition Audio
now here are my current gedosato settings:
profile file said:
user config file said:
about changing the resolution i just checked my resolution settings from my desktop after the game started and it was in 1280x720 so i changed it back to 1360x768, after that i went back to the game and it looked ok so at least for now i have to change my resolution settings to 1360x768 every time i open the game
The profile file looks fine. Delete the contents of the user config.
Launch Mushihimesama, set the game to fullscreen in-game, then exit and relaunch.
If it still doesn't work, then add the following single line to the user config and play around with the in-game fullscreen etc. until it works.
Code:
forceFullscreenMode truesalazar547
Member
So a update came today for Mushihimesama, now i dont need gedosato to open it , about the 720p issue i just setted the game to windowed mode and used borderless gaming to get borderless fullscreen mode in the game , now i have it in the correct resolution
[Mushihimesama for Steam] Just updated! The main feature is better sound quality of Ver.1.5. [E] #Mushihimesama
http://steamcommunity.com/games/377860/announcements/detail/79173540563953567
Yay
http://steamcommunity.com/games/377860/announcements/detail/79173540563953567
Yay
LordGorchnik
Member
Was there an issue with the sound quality? I didn't really notice anything bad about it. I would much rather they fix that damn bug that causes your game to lag/slow-down after looking at the score rankings/leaderboard/replay-data page once.
PeterBazooka
Member
Umm... What does 1cc, 2cc, 3cc... etc stand for? >_>
1CC = 1 Credit Clear, ie beating the game without using a continue.
The music in the 1.5 arrange mode is (was) very obviously low bitrate.
CC= Credit Clear
PeterBazooka
Member
Ahh... ok thanks.
StarCreator
Member
Don't be; I can get much further into Novice Ultra than I can normal Original.
SmiteOfHand
Member
Yes, there was (see below). I don't have an easy way atm to compare the patched music side by side with the old one but going purely by ear it does seem to have improved.
Blackbird@Degica
Member
Mushihimesama V1.1.3 update is ready. Patch changes:
- Replaced V1.5 game music with better quality audio. This should improve sound in this mode.
- Added "My Rank" sort filter to the leaderboard so you can quickly find your score.
- Increased leaderboard capacity so that more than 100 scores can be ranked.
- Local ranking and stage high scores have been added to the save file. You can now switch between "Today's Score", a board that is reset each game, and the permanent local leaderboard by pressing B (or X on the keyboard) during the local ranking display.
- Removed the monthly score board.
- Corrected errors that can appear in Training mode.
- Corrected a graphical error in Stage 4 of Arrange mode.
- Adjusted the startup process to prevent a crash that could occur on some machines.
- Corrected a crash that can occur when showing friend rankings.
Neat!
oh man almost got that 1cc original clear...
No-miss until stage 5, then choked up and lost five lives in first half+midboss. Last life got all the way to second form of final boss....
Just a little more practice to go! As soon as I screw up once I tend to mess up many times again...
No-miss until stage 5, then choked up and lost five lives in first half+midboss. Last life got all the way to second form of final boss....
Just a little more practice to go! As soon as I screw up once I tend to mess up many times again...
SmiteOfHand
Member
^^ The downward spiral late in a good run. I know it well. You are among friends here.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Hey Degica, thanks for the continued support. I'll have you know I'm helping the Steam shmup revival by buying this and Strania by the time the sale is over
Tetsuo9999
Member
Is the team aware of the issues with using non-XInput controllers? I have a PS3 stick and the button remapping is not working properly. Start is on the face buttons and some buttons are not recognized at all.
Blackbird, I hope you and CAVE are happy with the sales so far, and won't leave us hanging for next games like Treasure did.
Maybe we'll even get the best CAVE game ever?
Blackbird@Degica
Member
CAVE already plans to announce the next game around Christmas, it's not going to be a long wait.
Princess Debut is actually legit, Black Label HD edition when!?
This is exciting!
Geraldo_Ray
Member
Awesome.
It makes the most sense but it also makes the least sense, given that no-one seems to like it very much, including the developers.
DS2 isn't bad, it just looks bad. Being a 3D game it wouldn't be impossible to update it with better textures and models, but it would require a lot more work than a simple port.
My dream port is Akai Katana. It flopped in the arcades and flopped on 360 but I love it. The scoring loop feels great and the art is top notch. It's also a native HD game, albeit in 720p and not full HD. They'll probably do something else, though.
My dream port is Akai Katana. It flopped in the arcades and flopped on 360 but I love it. The scoring loop feels great and the art is top notch. It's also a native HD game, albeit in 720p and not full HD. They'll probably do something else, though.
The boss achievements all worked for me. Sure you weren't offline at the time? I'm pretty sure they work on any difficulty/mode.
StarCreator
Member
Did you actually kill the bosses or did they time out? I believe you're not awarded the achievement if they die by time limit.
Blackbird@Degica
Member
I feel like Akai Katana is a really weird game. A lot of the people I've heard talking about it/playing it seem to really like the game, but the quality of the game didn't seem to translate to actual sales.
We've had quite a few requests for it actually, but it's difficult to make an argument for it without numbers to back it up.
Was it just inaccessible or something?
We've had quite a few requests for it actually, but it's difficult to make an argument for it without numbers to back it up.
Was it just inaccessible or something?
SmiteOfHand
Member
Akai and Deathsmiles got full retail releases in the west in the past 5 years so they would be lower priority for me, personally, but I am sure there are plenty of people who never got around to them.
As far as Akai being an oddball I guess it has a few things going on that sets it apart. It is a hori shooter which people have all sorts of opinions on hori versus vert. As well its systems are unusual with the shielding and blood swords. RSG put out a pretty great set of overview videos breaking it all down (I think it might not even cover everything in the game, if I recall)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9AF8E5F22167961B
As far as Akai being an oddball I guess it has a few things going on that sets it apart. It is a hori shooter which people have all sorts of opinions on hori versus vert. As well its systems are unusual with the shielding and blood swords. RSG put out a pretty great set of overview videos breaking it all down (I think it might not even cover everything in the game, if I recall)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9AF8E5F22167961B
StarCreator
Member
I find it a lot of fun (and one of its main characters continues to be my forum avatar to this day), but the main criticisms of Akai Katana I hear are that it's too easy and the scoring mechanisms are so simple that the game becomes boring fast.
In a perfect world I would definitely be pushing for Dodonpachi Daioujou or Ketsui to be the next ports, but considering Cave doesn't have access to the codebase that was used to bring these titles to the 360 it's likely a pipe dream.
In a perfect world I would definitely be pushing for Dodonpachi Daioujou or Ketsui to be the next ports, but considering Cave doesn't have access to the codebase that was used to bring these titles to the 360 it's likely a pipe dream.