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[zlatko]

Have you ever played Final Fight or Saturday Night Slam masters?

This is MAHVEL. People are supposed to be doing RIDICULOUS SHIT ON SCREEN AT ALL TIMES! :lol

 

[ElyrionX]

What's so special about Haggar? His character design is unremarkable and his fighting style is completely uninteresting. He just screams generic wrestler character. Looks like a waste of a slot to me.

Characters like Vergil got booted out of the initial roster so we could have this shit?

My thoughts exactly. I really really don't understand why so many people are rooting for him. Is it really nostalgia here?

 

[Monocle]

LOL Vergil....

What a persuasive argument! Are you some sort of scholar?

My thoughts exactly. I really really don't understand why so many people are rooting for him. Is it really nostalgia here?

It has to be. I really wish someone would clue me in about how this bizarre cultlike reverence developed for a character that seems so thoroughly bland.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Phoenix using the teleport to continue her combo is some kickass DBZ shit

 

[Sn4ke_911]

What's so special about Haggar? His character design is unremarkable and his fighting style is completely uninteresting. He just screams generic wrestler character. Looks like a waste of a slot to me.

Characters like Vergil got booted out of the initial roster so we could have this shit?

QFT.

 

[LiK]

My thoughts exactly. I really really don't understand why so many people are rooting for him. Is it really nostalgia here?

He hasn't been in any traditional fighting game evar and yes, he's a classic Capcom character. They've had almost every other major Final Fight character in a fighter except him. So yes, I'm excited. Hate all you want, I'm happy.

 

[SolarPowered]

Four surprises in two trailers.

Phoenix honestly looks and plays stunningly well. Her theme is amazing and her voice actress really believes she has destroyed planets. Haggar is surprisingly catching my interest. I didn't expect much out of him, but I find myself wanting to pile drive someone now. His theme is also very cool in a retro kind of way. I had not seen any gameplay videos of zero so I had no idea he was even in the game. I'll go and hunt his videos down. Last, but not least... Amateratsu's alternate color looks pretty cool.

NICE

 

[Skilletor]

What's so special about Haggar? His character design is unremarkable and his fighting style is completely uninteresting. He just screams generic wrestler character. Looks like a waste of a slot to me.

Characters like Vergil got booted out of the initial roster so we could have this shit?

Why would you assume Vergil would replace Haggar? I would think they would want a certain number of a specific archetype, i.e. Haggar is a grappler, Vergil would be more like Dante. Haggar, then, would probably be more accurate to say, "We got Haggar instead of Zangief?"

 

[ElyrionX]

Why would you assume Vergil would replace Haggar? I would think they would want a certain number of a specific archetype, i.e. Haggar is a grappler, Vergil would be more like Dante. Haggar, then, would probably be more accurate to say, "We got Haggar instead of Zangief?"

If they wanted a grappler, Nero could have been adapted as such. And even Nero would be vastly more interesting than Haggar.

 

[udivision]

More like, Phoenix Wrong, amirite?

 

[Nemesis_]

LOL Vergil....

He may not be anymore interesting as Haggar but he definitely has abilities and such that fit in a Versus game much more than Haggar. I fucking hate grapplers in Versus games and with She-Hulk already in, it seems stupid to put him in.

Bah.

Thank god for DLC >_>

 

[spindashing]

Why would you assume Vergil would replace Haggar? I would think they would want a certain number of a specific archetype, i.e. Haggar is a grappler, Vergil would be more like Dante. Haggar, then, would probably be more accurate to say, "We got Haggar instead of Zangief?"

B-But using the cliche Vergil argument, "They don't play anything alike."

Relax, Vergil-boys. There's still a chance he could be DLC. Of course he won't be part of the initial roster, but at least its something.

 

[Monocle]

He hasn't been in any traditional fighting game evar and yes, he's a classic Capcom character. They've had almost every other major Final Fight character in a fighter except him. So yes, I'm excited. Hate all you want, I'm happy.

Oh, so his appeal is sort of the same flavor as Mr. Game and Watch's in Super Smash Bros. Melee? Jeez, at least G&W has some sort of personality to catch the interest of people who aren't familiar with his origin.

 

[Kai Dracon]

You cannot bitch that Haggar is "generic" without acknowledging that "classic" characters like Captain America and honest, even Wolverine, are not just as generic. Those guys have visually unremarkable fighting styles if pure special effects and contortions is all you care about, especially in context of MvC3's cast with outrageous entries like Super Skrull and Sir Arthur.

Even nostalgia aside (Haggar is major Capcom rep), you need a variety of characters to ground the cast. Would people REALLY have preferred seeing Zangief copypasted again to fill in the grappler spot on Capcom's side? He sure is more unique than Mike Haggar :lol

 

[sixteen-bit]

If they wanted a grappler, Nero could have been adapted as such. And even Nero would be vastly more interesting than Haggar.

Or they would have lifted Alex from TvC with minimal effort considering his moveset was already done for them

 

[LiK]

Oh, so his appeal is sort of the same flavor as Mr. Game and Watch's in Super Smash Bros. Melee? Jeez, at least G&W has some sort of personality to catch the interest of people who aren't familiar with his origin.

Sure, this is for the old school fans. Nothing wrong with it, imo.

 

[entremet]

If they wanted a grappler, Nero could have been adapted as such. And even Nero would be vastly more interesting than Haggar.

We don't need more silvered hair bishonens in Marvel. One is enough.

 

[BamYouHaveAids]

If they wanted a grappler, Nero could have been adapted as such. And even Nero would be vastly more interesting than Haggar.

Yeah, lets replace the MANLIEST major in the world with some Bishonen femboy. Idol Master might be more to your liking.

 

[webrunner]

I'm sure everyone would like to have a roster of all characters they like.

But any game is overall ideally going to be made of characters that SOMEONE likes so that the most people can have characters that they like.

Haggar's inclusion doesn't hurt you. The game isn't 40 copies of haggar.

 

[spindashing]

I'm sure everyone would like to have a roster of all characters they like.

But any game is overall ideally going to be made of characters that SOMEONE likes so that the most people can have characters that they like.

Haggar's inclusion doesn't hurt you. The game isn't 40 copies of haggar.

Quoted for truth. This is exactly how I feel. They cannot cater to the whim of every fanboy, so they're including as many different flavors of characters as they can.

 

[Ezalc]

Damn all these people hating on Haggar suggesting shittier characters take his place. Like Vergil and Nero. You say Haggar is generic and ask for fucking Dante 2.0? You serious with this shit?

 

[Kusagari]

Vergil isn't going to happen fanboys. His chances were 0 after they announced Trish. I really doubt he's even made DLC.

 

[Degen]

Power characters. The only reason I play 2D fighters at all.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Oh, so his appeal is sort of the same flavor as Mr. Game and Watch's in Super Smash Bros. Melee? Jeez, at least G&W has some sort of personality to catch the interest of people who aren't familiar with his origin.

Were people this opposed to Arthur and Rad Spencer being included for nostalgia's sake? He's a classic character, the game is short on grapplers. Most people would view Nero and Vergil as shoto-clones of Dante.

 

[Monocle]

You cannot bitch that Haggar is "generic" without acknowledging that "classic" characters like Captain America and honest, even Wolverine, are not just as generic. Those guys have visually unremarkable fighting styles if pure special effects and contortions is all you care about, especially in context of MvC3's cast with outrageous entries like Super Skrull and Sir Arthur.

Even nostalgia aside (Haggar is major Capcom rep), you need a variety of characters to ground the cast. Would people REALLY have preferred seeing Zangief copypasted again to fill in the grappler spot on Capcom's side? He sure is more unique than Mike Haggar :lol

But Wolverine and Captain America are iconic characters, longstanding members of the pantheon of popular culture. Haggar doesn't enjoy the same status, and from where I'm sitting, he doesn't have the charisma to compensate for it.

Why would you assume Vergil would replace Haggar? I would think they would want a certain number of a specific archetype, i.e. Haggar is a grappler, Vergil would be more like Dante. Haggar, then, would probably be more accurate to say, "We got Haggar instead of Zangief?"

Oh, I don't. I mentioned Vergil because he's a natural choice for a character in a MvC game, and every slot filled is one less available for other candidates. Naturally, I'd rather slots not be wasted on dull characters. A lot of people have a more favorable opinion about Haggar, but I'm here to represent my own view.

Edit:

Were people this opposed to Arthur and Rad Spencer being included for nostalgia's sake? He's a classic character, the game is short on grapplers. Most people would view Nero and Vergil as shoto-clones of Dante.

Arthur and Rad Spencer bring unique abilities and attributes to the roster. As far as I can tell, Haggar is remarkable only in his freakish uniformity.

Anyone who knows anything about Devil May Cry is aware that Vergil is the polar opposite of Dante in nearly every way, especially in terms of fighting style.

 

[LiK]

Were people this opposed to Arthur and Rad Spencer being included for nostalgia's sake? He's a classic character, the game is short on grapplers. Most people would view Nero and Vergil as shoto-clones of Dante.

The last time I saw such venom was for MODOK.

 

[Ezalc]

Were people this opposed to Arthur and Rad Spencer being included for nostalgia's sake? He's a classic character, the game is short on grapplers. Most people would view Nero and Vergil as shoto-clones of Dante.

People were pissed it was the new shitty bionic commando and not the old school one.

 

[sixteen-bit]

The last time I saw such venom was for MODOK.

This really perplexed me because MODOK looks like the most interesting character to play as in this game.

 

[LiK]

This really perplexed me because MODOK looks like the most interesting character to play as in this game.

I think people hated him for his design and they didn't know who he was. But yea, I wanna see how he plays.

 

[BamYouHaveAids]

This really perplexed me because MODOK looks like the most interesting character to play as in this game.

But he is not pretty!

 

[Nakazato]

Phoenix looks beast

 

[DryEyeRelief]

Oh, I don't. I mentioned Vergil because he's a natural choice for a character in a MvC game, and every slot filled is one less available for other candidates. Naturally, I'd rather slots not be wasted on dull characters. A lot of people have a more favorable opinion about Haggar, but I'm here to represent my own view.

you're pretty charming with the foam coming out of your mouth.

 

[Kusagari]

This really perplexed me because MODOK looks like the most interesting character to play as in this game.

He's 'ugly'. We need more bishounen silver haired pretty boys in the game instead of ugly interesting characters.

 

[spindashing]

This really perplexed me because MODOK looks like the most interesting character to play as in this game.

Yeah, seriously. He'll probably be one of the characters that I'll use and I'm not familiar with his character at all.

He's 'ugly'. We need more bishounen silver haired pretty boys in the game instead of ugly interesting characters.

 

[Kurtofan]

HAGGAR FUCK YEAH!!!!

Edithoenix is also hot as hell!!

 

[Fersis]

Well its not that MvC3 is drowning in grapplers.
Haggar is welcome.

 

[ElyrionX]

Damn all these people hating on Haggar suggesting shittier characters take his place. Like Vergil and Nero. You say Haggar is generic and ask for fucking Dante 2.0? You serious with this shit?

Vergil and Nero are not Dante 2.0, for fucks sake.

Vergil uses the katana far more extensively than Dante, which leads to a remarkably different fighting style. He also uses spirit swords offensively and defensively and the way it's implemented in DMC3SE was quite different in application than Dante's guns.

Nero uses the demon arm and could have been some sort of semi-grappler character. His devil form is also significantly different from Dante/Vergil and it would have been awesome to see it in MvC3.

Aesthetically, both characters' moves would look fantastic and would fit very well in MvC3 and they would hardly be Dante clones. At the very least, they wouldn't be anywhere close to what Haggar is to Zangief and what Ken is to Ryu.

 

[dankir]

He hasn't been in any traditional fighting game evar and yes, he's a classic Capcom character. They've had almost every other major Final Fight character in a fighter except him. So yes, I'm excited. Hate all you want, I'm happy.

Thank you!!!

Damn all these people hating on Haggar suggesting shittier characters take his place. Like Vergil and Nero. You say Haggar is generic and ask for fucking Dante 2.0? You serious with this shit?

QFT!!!

 

[Monocle]

you're pretty charming with the foam coming out of your mouth.

You'll be shocked to learn that individual people have personal preferences. If that's too much for you to swallow all at once, I recommend you take a few deep breaths and then tackle this message again one word at a time. Pace yourself and remember to take regular breaks.

 

[Hugbot]

Fuck yes. Fuck. Yes.

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

Holy shit my girl Phoenix delivered

 

[Chauncy Talon]

We all know who Capcom's stories are in Fighting Games. They are horrible. I'm surprised that they are attempting to make a story here, but where does Akuma fits in this game? Also, is Jean Grey another villain or hero?

 

[spindashing]

Vergil and Nero are not Dante 2.0, for fucks sake.

Vergil uses the katana far more extensively than Dante, which leads to a remarkably different fighting style. He also uses spirit swords offensively and defensively and the way it's implemented in DMC3SE was quite different in application than Dante's guns.

Nero uses the demon arm and could have been some sort of semi-grappler character. His devil form is also significantly different from Dante/Vergil and it would have been awesome to see it in MvC3.

Aesthetically, both characters' move would look fantastic and would fit very well in MvC3 and they would hardly be Dante clones. At the very least, they wouldn't be anywhere close to what Haggar is to Zangief and what Ken is to Ryu.

But Zangief and Haggar are not in the game at the same time. Nor is Ken and Ryu. So, Haggar and Ryu are fine.

Honestly, the less characters from the same series, the better. It gives more of a chance for other characters to appear. Jin Saotome? Strider?

You guys have to keep in mind, like I said, the game developers cannot cater to your every whim. They're trying to branch out and include favorites from as many spots as they can. Everyone has their own opinions on who is "bland", "stupid", "ugly", etc. If you don't like the Haggar inclusion so much, no one said you had to play as him. I mean, I love Haggar's inclusion, but you don't see me rushing to play as him. There are other characters...

Edit: But Akuma's in. *sigh.*

 

[ElyrionX]

He's 'ugly'. We need more bishounen silver haired pretty boys in the game instead of ugly interesting characters.

MODOK is ugly and that's part of the reason why I don't like him as well. But at least I can see the inclusion of him in MvC3 as being somewhat logical and he certainly looks interesting.

Haggar is the fucking blandest of character they could have included. I watched his trailer with an open mind and still found it to be extremely underwhelming.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

You'll be shocked to learn that individual people have personal preferences. If that's too much for you to swallow all at once, I recommend you take a few deep breaths and then tackle this message again one word at a time. Pace yourself and remember to take regular breaks.

coming from the dude trying to shove "haggar haz no charizma wah wah" down everyone's throats.

 

[V_Arnold]

You know what is real funny about this?
This character discussion is like this in every single thread of every single fighting game ever announced.

Then, if the game is truly a touch of genius like SFIV was last time, people will stop bitching at one point and will TRY that hated character. And then realize it plays godlike, and it feels just right.

Most notable SFIV characters to do that for ME: Viper, Rufus, Hakan, Abel. You can only comment the looks, but not really the feels. And sooner or later, people will try out Haggar, MODOK, and all the "ugly" ones, and decide if they play well or play bad.

 

[Skilletor]

If they wanted a grappler, Nero could have been adapted as such. And even Nero would be vastly more interesting than Haggar.

I imagine Nero's arm mechanic being used more like Rad Spencer than a grappler, and, still, he wouldn't replace a Zangief/Haggar character.

 

[ElyrionX]

Also, people who've never played Nero or Vergil in the DMC games need to shut the fuck up about those two being Dante clones.

 

[Monocle]

coming from the dude trying to shove "haggar haz no charizma wah wah" down everyone's throats.

So what you're trying to tell me here is that my opinion is wrong? I'll take that under advisement.

 

[ShinAmano]

Quoted for truth. This is exactly how I feel. They cannot cater to the whim of every fanboy, so they're including as many different flavors of characters as they can.

Exactly...I am happy to have Haggar...I could go on about how lame Modok, Amaterasu, Tron Bonne, Viewtiful Joe and Zero are, but you don't hear me bitching I will just ignore them...I might give Amaterasu and Modok a chance but the others I feel are waste of space.