RPGCrazied
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Sohter.Nura said:
That image basically has, now we are just waiting for Namco to step up and give us the official word.
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Namco teasing Pacman & Galaga 3DS [Up7: Tekken, Soul Calibur, Tales, Ono, Vesperia?]
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That image basically has, now we are just waiting for Namco to step up and give us the official word.
WickedLaharl
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kafka rock opera said:
i'll get over it but only if troy baker voices an important character!
Sohter.Nura
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RPGCrazied said:
omgomgomgomg
WhenTalesofGracesFGetsAnnouncedI JIZZZZED IN MAH PAAAANTS
nincompoop
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It was released in Nov 08 and sold over 95k copies through Jan 09 (http://www.nintendoeverything.com/?p=9513). It's probably around 150k now. That puts it far ahead of any of the Playstation Tales games which had ~1 billion times as much effort put into their development.Amir0x said:
LiquidMetal14
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LOL you're so right. I alongside 8 of my friends bought it. It was a good game too but you're right about the timing.Amir0x said:
Bel Marduk
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Eteric Rice said:
The same Namco Bandai that's finally bringing ToGF over!
There were some localization credits in ToG Wii's credits so they must've already done some translating on that already.
nincompoop
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I'm not sure how the ToS games selling 5x better on average than the Playstation Tales games equates to selling "slightly less shittilly". Spin it however you want, the only conclusion you can reach is that only releasing the PS3 version of Graces would be a terrible decision (assuming that Namco actually is interested in making money on the series).Amir0x said:
Sohter.Nura
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Amir0x said:
Also, Tales of Symphonia Dawn of the New World was also released at a time where the Wii was selling like HOT CAKES, during a Christmas on top of that.
It's been shown with data that the time where 3rd party software was selling the most on the Wii was when it was at its peak, because most of the software for the game was sold at the console purchase... I think I remember Pachter talking about.
So I don't think it sold 'well' because the game was purchased by Tales of fans, but rather because the Wii was selling 500k+ at that time and the game just happened to catch a wind on the sales of the console.
RPGCrazied
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jj984jj said:I'll finally get to learn who Sophie is? And more importantly, get to play a Team Destiny game?!?
Hell has frozen over?
The Praiseworthy
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nincompoop said:
WHAT!!
Abyss sold LESS than Legendia :O !?
No wonder they think we are not worthy for a Tales game
This is madness ;_;
nincompoop said:
Your Symphonia argument has already been thoroughly refuted - that's the argument of long-dead Nintards who were so bitter during the PlayStation gen that they were overlooked for so many Tales games because HEY LOOK GUYS AT HOW SYMPHONIA DID
Symphonia was a right-time, right-place situation. Fact. Symphonia 2 did really fucking bad - only very slightly less shittily than your average Tales game, AND that was on an equal point as the first game: on an RPG starved platform.
Now, I fully expect Graces F to also do bad. But Tales of Graces would do bad on ANY platform.
nincompoop said:
But we told you the other possible conclusion was that it sells well on JRPG starved consoles, are you then saying that the PS3 is JRPG heaven? If so please direct me to these games I've been missing because I love me some JRPG and haven't gotten much outside of NISA published in a while.
nincompoop said:
Well ToS has its own slew of reasons for selling the way it did and nothing is looking anywhere near likely of copying that success.
ToS2 only sold around twice as much as the PS2 games and sold around as much as Vesperia. The PS2 games were either not that good or even fewer people managed to give a crap about them than usual for various reasons, so they sold even worse than ToS2 and ToV's already pretty weak numbers.
I'm pretty sure Graces could pull off what those two sold, but anyone thinking the PS3 is going to give it some kind of big boost over those two is probably going to be disappointed.
charlequin
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The Praiseworthy said:
I suggest resigning yourself to not playing Vesperia, then. It is sort of feasible to build the business case for a release of a never-before-seen game over here; it is not really feasible to bring over a years-late, full-price port of a game that sold < 200,000 copies in the first place. You might as well ask for the PS2 games to get localized.
(If it makes you feel better, I'll give the Wii owners the same advice if/when Graces only gets announced for PS3, or vice versa.)
You know, if this comes on the Wii, it actually makes Namco look like fucking geniuses. They could've released last year but there were actually interesting games coming out, but looks like from now on it's a gaming drought.
And then Namco on their white-horse of intelligent market analysis see the potential of releasing the game in 2011! What a twist!
And then Namco on their white-horse of intelligent market analysis see the potential of releasing the game in 2011! What a twist!
It's a coincidence, they're crazy and use a magic 8-ball as decision taker.
SatelliteOfLove
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Not getting caught up in the hype. No no no. Hopelessness springs eternal. Etc.
The Praiseworthy
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charlequin said:
I gave up on Vesperia for a long time now.... I just need any Tales game to buy because I'm so desperate for Tales on my PS3
So when we might get some news on whats going on in this thread? I'm really on my nerve here waiting for a happy announcement!
RPGCrazied
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Damn my OCD. <.3 jRPG's do this, ugh. Must... go.. do.. something else.
charlequin
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nincompoop said:
Wow, this is like some of the the worst sales-aging I have ever seen on GAF. Seriously, that conclusion is so bad.
Torillian said:
It also helps when the games receive significant promotional pushes from the platform holder (Symphonia, and to a much lesser degree Vesperia), are released early in the generation when RPGs are thinner on the ground (Symphonia, Vesperia, DotNW), are fully-voice acted including skits (Vesperia, DotNW), receive a significantly better critical reception than previous series entries (Vesperia), etc. (And conversely, it hurts when the game is universally agreed to be terrible like Legendia or has aggressive technical issues that drag it down in every review like Abyss.)
jeremy1456
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charlequin said:
What really shocks me is that some people want the PS3 Vesperia more than a new game (Graces).
I think it has more to do with platform favoritism than legitimately wanting to play the game. It would be more likely (though still incredibly unlikely) for Namco to release the 360 stuff as DLC at this point. Even if that happened (which it won't) I imagine the people begging for the port still wouldn't care just because it's not on PS3.
This is why we can't have nice things.
charlequin
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The Praiseworthy said:I gave up on Vesperia for a long time now.... I just need any Tales game to buy because I'm so desperate for Tales on my PS3
Hopefully we'll all be in luck soon! (Well, I'll be in luck like a year from now when I actually have a PS3, lulz.)
RPGCrazied
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Does ToG f have a lot of skits?
In my opinion, the PS3 should be prime choice for anything Tales simply because it's region free. That way, us folks in europe could always import and play the US version easily (like many people including me did with Demon's Souls, before they announced that for europe).
If the US gets a Tales game, we probably would as well, but this is Namco Bandai
edit: wii is okay if we get it in europe as well of course
If the US gets a Tales game, we probably would as well, but this is Namco Bandai
edit: wii is okay if we get it in europe as well of course
RPGCrazied
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Wow, if its F, there is no way those are going to be voiced. Maybe a select few? I'd like some of them to be, but 800 is a lot.
HylianScribe
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Nuclear Muffin said:
Vesperia was 59.99 and only on Xbox 360, a system I would argue, at the time, probably wasn't resonating in North America with the average jRPG fan for various reasons, the biggest being its high cost.
DotNW was 39.99 (I believe) and on the Wii, the hottest selling system at the time (and cheaper than 360). This was one of the few RPGs period available, too. Also a sequel to the best selling and arguably most popular Tales entry in the series, so demand would be high.
I mean, we could go more in depth about the trends of the jRPG demographic to argue more thoroughly why DotNW probably sold as much as Vesperia, but I honesty am not the least bit surprised at the North American #s.
Edit: If Namco were smart, Tales of Graces F would be heading to 3DS...
RPGCrazied
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Bebpo said:
Oh. Thanks. Well, ToV had a lot or so it seemed. Those were voiced, of course Microsoft was backing them. I wonder if Sony is going to pony up the $$$$.
Amir0x said:
If Namco can find a cost-effective way to port the Graces F content onto the Wii, then more power too them if they release it on both platforms. Personally, I just think if we're in an either/or console situation, there is a slightly better shot of it doing better on the PS3 at this phase unless the stars and the sun align and the Wii audience takes notice of Graces as the shining star in the Wii's empty schedule.
But when considering Namco's sale expectations at times... Graces would have been doomed no matter when or where it was released.
But hey, if Namco is going to suicide the Tales franchise in the West by this move, I'm glad they're doing it with a newer title (as long as it's the superior version).
Edit: Actually... if it does come out on the PS3, couldn't Namco just pull a Yakuza?
The Praiseworthy
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MechaX said:
I rather for them to wait and try it with Xillia ... because if ToX didn't get localize while others did, it will break my heart and depress me .
WickedLaharl
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what if namco gets a pass from sony and pulls a yakuza? i will be pissed.
I dunno. ToX could be fun but it's not like the West has had really good exposure to Team Destiny and its battle systems.
They're looking for the perfect excuse to not have to release Xilia. Even if Graces F sells 200k copies or debuts in NPD, they'll be like "durr we had a sales estimate of 3MILLION! obviously there's not enough demand for tales join our twitter/facebook pages for hints for a tales game six years from now"
They're looking for the perfect excuse to not have to release Xilia. Even if Graces F sells 200k copies or debuts in NPD, they'll be like "durr we had a sales estimate of 3MILLION! obviously there's not enough demand for tales join our twitter/facebook pages for hints for a tales game six years from now"
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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Wonder if Namco-Bandai is seeing how much Graces will sell and then maybe they'll release Xilia?
Than like others previously said, let's all buy 5 copies each!
Than like others previously said, let's all buy 5 copies each!
RPGCrazied
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Does anyone have a link that shows how much new content is in F? I'd like to see. I know there is a epilogue or something. How long is that?
Rahxephon91
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Do you guys mean cut content? Well I guess that could happened, but I really wouldn't care. If it's not having an English track, that would also be perfectly fine by me.
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