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Need for Speed (2015) - New gameplay, Customization & Tuning
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Net_Wrecker
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I don't understand the "only night time?" complaints. The game's clearly reaching for a specific atmosphere, aesthetic, and culture. Midday races just don't make sense here. Looks great to me, though I'm biased because nighttime urban environments always look great to me. That streetlight glow <3
Because I like diversity and changes in atmosphere? Sunny conditions, sunsets, sunrises etc, these all add their own unique flavour and atmosphere, and add to that they completely change the look of environments, which in itself changes up gameplay (altering one's perception of the tracks).
brotkasten
Member
That was basically concept art to test out the engine. It even said "building the artwork" over the pictures in the article.
"When we know what we want to build we start looking into how we want to build it. The first step is a process called Look Development, where we start prototyping the new feature sets that we want to include. Thats the dust, dirt and damage layering, how we add rain to the cars and even down to the details of what colour and material values should be applied to each part. The image above shows some of our reference photos coupled together with the same scene recreated in the game render engine. I think youll agree that were pretty close to matching reality see if you can spot the difference in Presentation Mode."
http://www.speedhunters.com/2015/07/creating-the-cars-of-need-for-speed/
Listen tell your Producer to set aside some time to actually get borderless windows set and strong in the client. Its really important. Need for speed Most wanted 2012 was terrible in that regard.
All i'm saying it just have you client people nail and lock down a good Borderless windows setting. That does not make the game shit the bed, go wonky and make your computer freeze while it figures out what is happening.
I tried to ask you guys this on twitter and the response was like I'm actually for secret info into your game.
Just make the game client support Borderless windows well. I cannot stress the importance of this.
All i'm saying it just have you client people nail and lock down a good Borderless windows setting. That does not make the game shit the bed, go wonky and make your computer freeze while it figures out what is happening.
I tried to ask you guys this on twitter and the response was like I'm actually for secret info into your game.
Just make the game client support Borderless windows well. I cannot stress the importance of this.
Net_Wrecker
Member
You're free to pick up Driveclub, and Project Cars, and Forza, and GT, and the last few NFS titles, and they'll all provide you with wonderful 24h day/night cycles and/or daytime racing to your heart's content. None of those games are proper tuner culture nightlife racers though, which is what NFS 2015 looks to be attempting here. Every time there was a new NFS announced in recent years, there's been an almost unanimous "What about Underground though?" Now we're getting a new Underground. I like the idea of them embracing being the nighttime street racer game with a unified tone. Look up videos for the inspiration behind this game and 9 times out of 10 it's nighttime footage.
Always-honest
Banned
Oh that's a shame.No daylight, only night time...
looks very good though.
Fair enough to the latter, boo to recommending I just buy another game.
Even if they offered day time racing, or just driving, to a limited scope, maybe just driving to and from different garages, or to meet different characters or something, It'd still make a big difference to me. Ultimately I just want to experience the city and the vehicles, in alternative lighting conditions, with a different type of atmosphere and mood, to break away from the aesthetic monotony. The majority of real street racing may take place at night, but some of it doesn't, and ultimately these vehicles can and often are better appreciated in the day. Locking in to just night time seems more like a technical and resource/time saving decision than a gameplay one. Rarely, if ever have dynamic lighting conditions and more diverse content ever hurt a racing game.
That's kind of cool actually.
Yeah definitely a question of "do we want to release this game in 2015 or holiday 2016?"
PHOENIXZERO
Member
It looks just like Rivals' online component, at least there's supposedly dedicated servers this time but can't wait to read about the server problems.
drotahorror
Member
That's really good to hear then. Back on my list.
Are you sure? So you do several hours worth of racing, drifting etc, changing, tuning, unlocking or buying a multitude of different cars, racking up more and more money, meeting a range of different tentpole characters, exploring a city twice the size of the one featured in Rivals, and all the rest, all over a single night?
Net_Wrecker
Member
I'm not trying to shut down your argument or anything, all I'm saying is that at some point you have to recognize that a game (or a design design in said game) may not be for you and consider that there are alternatives.
Until I read differently, I'd like to think containing it to dusk --> dawn hours is a tonal and aesthetic decision, especially considering this is a team that has already handled day/night cycles. I understand wanting more variety, but I think having a unified atmosphere and really delving into the culture is more important, especially when there are other games doing what you want, and this one stands out more being THE nighttime tuner racing game. This all comes back to the age old "What you call monotony I call cohesion" discussion. Everything about the decision to focus on tuners and nighttime visuals speaks to me. Who knows if it'll be a good game, but I'm happy they made the choice they did.
privitsan02
Member
The authentic street racing culture they are going for don't really come out to play during daytime. Besides, less traffic to worry about the middle of the night as well.
Also we've had daytime only NFS for nearly 7 years now, its time for a change.
Best wishes.
Is it weird that I bought EA access not for the games in the vault, but as a prefilter to help me avoid buyers remorse after getting bitten on rivals? Going to use it to try this out on Xbox before deciding whether I like the handling and whether the constant night annoys me. If I like it, I'll buy on PC if it works properly on 21:9 monitors or possibly PS4 if not. Likewise with FIFA 16.
brotkasten
Member
I understand your frustration, but sometimes we have to accept that a new and upcoming game in a series is just not meant for us. Just like I have to accept that Final Fantasy XV isn't for me, because I don't like that kind of battle system. It's very frustrating, but there's nothing I can do, since it' she direction they want to take the game in. Maybe next time.
There are plenty of online only games supporting 60fps at least. Don't overlook the fact that the game could be played at 60fps with a simple command line. MMOs as far as I know can be played at 60fps or more, same goes for MP only games.
No excuses for NFS 2015 not to support 60fps on PC.
Not yet confirmed.
flipswitch
Member
30fps PC only or have I got it wrong?
Always-honest
Banned
Will there be a demo on PSN?
Peterthumpa
Member
How is it even possible to evaluate handling by watching videos? Come on.
brotkasten
Member
I honestly think that demos completely died with the start of this generation.
We're almost 2 years into the generation and my PSN Store has 19 demos. 4 of them are Lego games, 3 of them are sports games, 1 is PS+ exclusive (Thief) and the rest is pretty random. Destiny is the only AAA game with a demo on my store.
It would really surprise me if EA comes out with a demo for this game.
Always-honest
Banned
Yeah it's horribele.
But watching this demo i figured it would make a litte sense. Actually, i'm just hoping...
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
As someone who complaints about the Burnout like handling since Hot Pursuit, its not hard to unsee that its still there...
Sounds like he wants Burnout.
I think the game looks stunning graphically, but the always-online problem saps any interest I have from it. The focus on social media trash for points or whatever really puts me off, as well. I didn't like Rivals, and was pretty disappointed in how Most Wanted turned out, too, though, so maybe GG's take on NFS just isn't for me.
Well, they said this after Rivals was locked to 30fps on PC:
http://answers.ea.com/t5/Need-for-S...-30-fps-on-PC/m-p/1884967/highlight/true#M750
So if it's still locked, it won't be a good look for them.
You're misunderstanding me. The problem isn't whether the game supports 60fps. I know that, I've played it that way. The problem is that whatever framerate is chosen, the game REQUIRES it, since the framerate is tied to gamespeed. That's why making 60fps the standard for Rivals would have been much tougher, since its always online and if someone is getting framedrops, they're getting slowdown, and they're getting desynced from their opponents. You'd hope they could decouple the framerate from the gamespeed but for one reason or another they didn't. Of course there are online games that support 60fps, but there are few computationally demanding always online games that requires constant 60fps.
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
ITT, we get to see just how many people never played Underground or Carbon.
Those games have a few things in common:
1-Nighttime racing only
2-Sold gangbusters
3-Loved by fans worldwide
4-Widely considered some of the top n4s games
5-Modern follow-up constantly requested by fans
In my eyes, Need4Speed 2015 speaks to those fans of Carbon and Underground. Nighttime racing is integral to the feel and appeal of Carbon/Underground. It strikes me that this game is a love letter to those fans.
Those games have a few things in common:
1-Nighttime racing only
2-Sold gangbusters
3-Loved by fans worldwide
4-Widely considered some of the top n4s games
5-Modern follow-up constantly requested by fans
In my eyes, Need4Speed 2015 speaks to those fans of Carbon and Underground. Nighttime racing is integral to the feel and appeal of Carbon/Underground. It strikes me that this game is a love letter to those fans.
P.S. Seems like there aren't many Midnight Club fans around here either
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
Yes. Anyone who actually watched the videos would already know you can fully customize the handling of each car. And while that is not a guarantee the gameplay will be enjoyable to all, I still get a chuckle from all this "OMG BURNOUT REDUEX"-talk -_-
I just saw the E3 footage until today, was there any other footage out earlier? I was thinking less burnout, more bad outrun2 clone
Well, Grip Handling works for Race Events, but it reverts back as soon as you enter Drift Events according to the video. It doesn't seem like you can beat the whole game without Drift Handling.
I can finally live out my Tokyo Drift fantasies in full HD.
100% agree.
And we need a Midnight Club 4: DUB Edition.
Best video I've seen so far. Sold.
orichalcos
Member
Kwansu Dudes
Member
Well put. Hated Rivals and would like the classic cheesefest to return. Let me customize my car. Let me earn it from the bottom up. Make NFS fun again.
I agree with you totally. Unfortunately, I don't like reading love letters while being fucked in the ass by someone curiously called Always Online.
SayBooSayDo-SayBooSayWho
Banned
People did this with Carbon as well, so it's nothing new.
Sigh.. They should not be targeting any framerate with the PC version, be it 30 or 60. Framerate should go as far as the GPU can push it, with the option of locking it down with Vsync. If the game is locked to 60 I won't even bother with this. It's the Frostbite engine, which runs unlocked just fine in Battlefield. Don't fuck this up.
Racing games at 144FPS feels glorious
Mr. PlayStation
Member
eso76
Member
seems to have just a lot more compression going on actually.