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LOL PS3GAF came pretty damn close on Nelson Bay. On defense we'd get everyone on mounted weapons and whatever else we had handy and bring those pesky trees down.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
I don't really see cover as a bad thing.
nice, but the support class does seem a bit overpowered. nerf or hatemails incoming :/
recoil definitely seems to be less, but accuracy is also down as far as I can make out from these videos. not sure what to make of the XM25, we'll see how good it is.
I'm also confused with the mortar, do you have to deploy it first somewhere? Because he is in the building and is still able to use the mortar. Well, it's at least not as useless as in BF3.
I thought it would be something more classic like in BC1 though, where you hve to point at the target. this has the problem that you can just hide somwhere, shoot five rounds and get kills. in BF3 hiding was not much of an issue because the mortar was not that deadly.
recoil definitely seems to be less, but accuracy is also down as far as I can make out from these videos. not sure what to make of the XM25, we'll see how good it is.
I'm also confused with the mortar, do you have to deploy it first somewhere? Because he is in the building and is still able to use the mortar. Well, it's at least not as useless as in BF3.
I thought it would be something more classic like in BC1 though, where you hve to point at the target. this has the problem that you can just hide somwhere, shoot five rounds and get kills. in BF3 hiding was not much of an issue because the mortar was not that deadly.
About 20 in the first 2 expansions and the X bow in aftermath. And the premium boxcutter knife.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
The image of the MX4 on the left looks like a sniper rifle lol.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Wow...what was that big looking scope he went past in his inventory? Around 14 seconds in.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
Fuck i liked the color tinting :/ it unified the colors and gave the game a more unique look.
Support class is a little crazy.
They should really give the medic class the LMG's and call it support. That way you'd really be playing a support role, rather than being this massively armed beast.
Give assault the assault rifles, mortars and crazy laser gun thingy, along with ammo packs. Lets face it, ammo refills are not as great as health refills.
They should really give the medic class the LMG's and call it support. That way you'd really be playing a support role, rather than being this massively armed beast.
Give assault the assault rifles, mortars and crazy laser gun thingy, along with ammo packs. Lets face it, ammo refills are not as great as health refills.
Naked Lunch
Member
I doubt DICE would revert back to across the board low recoil. If you remember, BF3 shipped with low recoil - it was more of a hold in the trigger and gain more accuracy (in other words, ass backwards). The following Spring, DICE brought out that huge BF3 weapon patch changing the behavior of every gun in the game to BF2 like recoil management. I highly doubt they will go back in 4. There's so many attachments in 4 now though - that I can see it taking quite some time for them to find the right balance yet again. Usually takes DICE 6 months to a year of patches to get things decent.
Sounds like ammo will be more of factor now in BF4 with very limited clips and the new ammo pool reloading in Hardcore mode. You are right though, more players don't stay alive long enough to get replenished on ammo. Im hoping the new ammo limits mix this up.
Source?
LevelCap keeping the content flowing - All BF4 PDWs in Action
Jack's video was good as well. Such great color during the day time, so pretty. DAMN, I'm pumped up. This latest build footage has been fantastic. New thread compiling all of the newest gameplay?
Jack's video was good as well. Such great color during the day time, so pretty. DAMN, I'm pumped up. This latest build footage has been fantastic. New thread compiling all of the newest gameplay?
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
I thought PDWs were not restricted to any class in Bf3, and Engies used carbines. Has this changed now?
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Looks like the damage is close to BF3's hardcore mode. Recoil looks more or less the same, but you only need to hit a few times on the body to take someone down.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
Didn't they flip it to where Carbines are used by any class now?
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Yeah along with DMRs as well
jacksepticeye
Member
It's reversed now. PDWs are engineer only while Carbines are universal
Also new lvlcap video talking about all the field upgrades,what they do and how they work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqGARL9fWTs
Yes, suppression is still game breaking in BF3.
Faith in DICE restored.
SolidSnakeUS
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For me, I can't wait for the pistols. Always had more of a fascination with handguns than any other weapon really... maybe except swords lol.
Pistols are cool, but that feeling when you snipe someone from across the map is just wow!
fluffydelusions
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Makes me miss bc2...loved it more than bf3 tbh.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
People have been playing de_dust2 for over decade. No point in throwing out good maps. I mean, ideally, the maps would just accumulate over the years and the most popular maps would continue to circulate.
GetemMa
Member
Sold.
Yes, BFBC2 was legendary. :'(
Dumb and lazy is right. Dumb mostly because the maps they chose for it are atrocious. Second Assault doesn't even fit BF4 thematically. B2K made sense for BF3 since a portion of the game marked a return to the Middle Eastern theater. Second Assault should have been remakes of the Asia-inspired maps from BF2.
That one is mixed in with the pistols. The rest are still primary.
Got it, that makes more sense. Otherwise they'd have to re-balance shotguns to poop-tier. Still, a shorty might be useful for when one is loading down with a bolt-action rifle.
As GrizzNKev wrote it's a secondary weapon that is mixed in with the hand guns. It's called 12G Shorty and has a very narrow range and only holds 3 shells.
The full length shotguns seem to have been upgraded across the board, which is great. More rounds, more accurate. So tired of the MASS being better than most shotguns.
Beta starts October 1.
Source: http://www.gamespot.com/news/battlefield-4-beta-starts-october-1-6414469
Source: http://www.gamespot.com/news/battlefield-4-beta-starts-october-1-6414469
I'm guessing Second Assault is less resource intensive on DICE's part. Maybe I'm wrong. But if it frees up designers to work on the new maps, and keeps people playing because there's new maps in rotation, I'm all for it.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Really glad Domination is getting full support. I loved it when I wanted some quick action but wished I could play it on other maps.
Defuse should be cool too.
MajorasHalo
Banned
But, will the gunplay be an improved Bad Company 2? Cause if it's the same as BF3 then I'll probably not even get a next gen console.
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
Conquest is the only mode with 64 players? No Capture the Flag? Kind of disappointed there, even if I'm sure they'll add in Capture the Flag in DLC like BF3.
If this isn't the place for this question, I apologize and please ignore it, but after watching that impression video on PS4 vs PC graphics I found myself getting annoyed at how confident the guy was that the PS4 can't do the max settings on PC at 1080p.
I keep assuming that, like with every console generation, the more familiar the devs are with a console, the better and better the graphics get. Not to mention that this is typically only possible with engines made for these closed systems. This makes me believe that in 5 years we'll be seeing games on PS4 (for example) not only matching BF4 PC on Max (resolution, max AA, and max AF excluded) but exceeding it.
But then we've also heard from a couple devs that these console's power is a lot easier to tap into. Meaning we won't see games that push things much further than current PC games do.
So has there been a consensus, or something close to, regarding this? I'm really hoping that we'll see substantially better looking games down the road once devs are familiar with the hardware.
I keep assuming that, like with every console generation, the more familiar the devs are with a console, the better and better the graphics get. Not to mention that this is typically only possible with engines made for these closed systems. This makes me believe that in 5 years we'll be seeing games on PS4 (for example) not only matching BF4 PC on Max (resolution, max AA, and max AF excluded) but exceeding it.
But then we've also heard from a couple devs that these console's power is a lot easier to tap into. Meaning we won't see games that push things much further than current PC games do.
So has there been a consensus, or something close to, regarding this? I'm really hoping that we'll see substantially better looking games down the road once devs are familiar with the hardware.
Games will get better over time and they will look substantially better than now. Probably not to quite the same extent as early gen PS3 games versus late gen because of the difficulty to program for that but there will still be huge differences. The easier architectures just make it easier to get a game up and running on the platform, there's still lots of tricks to learn and optimization to be done.
phazedplasma
Member
That music, i can't....just...no
Anton Sugar
Member
I would be surprised if they didn't allow servers to boost the player count to 64 in any mode on custom servers.
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