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[Armadilo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=8&v=PlJIwBSj3is

▼ HD60 Pro Highlights:

- Stream and record your Xbox, PlayStation, or Wii U gameplay
- Stunning 1080p quality with 60 fps
- Built-in live streaming to Twitch, YouTube & more
- Instant Gameview: stream with superior low latency technology
- Stream Command: add webcam, overlays, and more
- Master Copy: simultaneous 1080p60 H.264 recording while streaming
- Built-in live commentary feature
- Advanced H.264 hardware encoding
- Unlimited capture right to your PC
- Flashback Recording: record retroactively
- Price: $199 USD, €199, £159

new HD60 Pro's Instant Gameview low-latency preview mode Demo Video-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=w5dEBa8x2f4

 

[DocSeuss]

Why don't I have money? I need one of these inside my body.

 

[ShadowKingpin]

Yeah, no thanks. Seems nice, but I was rooting for external.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

So is the only advantage over the HD60 zero latency in the preview window? If so I'll just stick with my original HD for the time being.

The only thing that the original HD can't do that the HD60Pro can do is 1080p60fps recording and playing in the preview window. There isn't any quality difference or pass through latency difference between the models. The software is all the same.


Literally, Instant Gameview is the only new feature. Don't know why they didn't just make a USB3.0 model.

 

[Shining Sunshine]

So ah like I said in the other thread.

Hopefully someone will do a comparison with this and the Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, the current reigning best capture card.

 

[Timu]

Yeah, no thanks. Seems nice, but I was rooting for external.

Internal is better though!!!

 

[The Flash]

Well I have a HD60 now so there's not much in this for me unfortunately.

 

[Caayn]

Any word on if they allow for uncompressed capture now? The HD60 had horrible compression.

 

[dark_prinny]

Pass. External is the only way.

 

[ViciousDS]

Internal is better though!!!

no thanks, I love the convenience of portable. Internal becomes a pain when moving around to buddies houses.

 

[Mr Moose]

Any word on if they allow for uncompressed capture now? The HD60 had horrible compression.

This is what I am waiting to find out. I've got the normal Elgato, hoping this one improves video/PNG quality (PS4s PNGs are awesome, but having to use SD card from PS4 to PC and back is a pain in the arse).

 

[Glendemonium]

So what's a good external version? I've been sitting on making some videos just for fun for a long time and I'd love to cover Wii U and PS4. My co-worker has one and told me it comes with a nice video editor.

 

[Timu]

no thanks, I love the convenience of portable. Internal becomes a pain when moving around to buddies houses.

Your friends should have internal cards then!!!=p

 

[RumblingRosco]

Is there anything like this that allows for recording/streaming of older consoles, such as the SNES? Is it possible with an HDMI converter?

EDIT: This is probably a super ignorant question, so sorry in advance and thanks for any replies/suggestions.

 

[Bravoexo]

So what's a good external version? I've been sitting on making some videos just for fun for a long time and I'd love to cover Wii U and PS4. My co-worker has one and told me it comes with a nice video editor.

The LGX. I recommend if your PC meets the specs

 

[Timu]

Is there anything like this that allows for recording/streaming of older consoles, such as the SNES? Is it possible with an HDMI converter?

It should be possible as once the SNES goes digital the capture card would detect it.

However, certain HDMI converters don't work with the SNES so be careful about that.

 

[Broadbandito]

Is this not new?

- Master Copy: simultaneous 1080p60 H.264 recording while streaming

 

[RumblingRosco]

It should be possible as once the SNES goes digital the capture card would detect it.

However, certain HDMI converters don't work with the SNES so be careful about that.

Alright. Considering options going forward to record some direct footage from a few old consoles I'm still holding on to hence clicking on this thread. Thanks!

 

[Timu]

Alright. Considering options going forward to record some direct footage from a few old consoles I'm still holding on to hence clicking on this thread. Thanks!

Yeah I tried it before and I managed to get my SNES to work with one of my 2 capture cards.

 

[Bravoexo]

It should be possible as once the SNES goes digital the capture card would detect it.

However, certain HDMI converters don't work with the SNES so be careful about that.

The LGX still has a proprietary PS3 cable, and a proprietary Composite/Component in cable. And it bypassed via HDMI out, but the preview is quite low latency enough to be playable in realtime of capture.

 

[Fattony12000]

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[Ragnorok64]

I don't like that it doesn't do any of the retro consoles.

What do people know about this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PC5HUA6/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Seems it has some of the same internals as the X-Capture One.

 

[Aeana]

Is there anything like this that allows for recording/streaming of older consoles, such as the SNES? Is it possible with an HDMI converter?

EDIT: This is probably a super ignorant question, so sorry in advance and thanks for any replies/suggestions.

The Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI comes with a breakout cable that supports component, composite, and s-video inputs. If you add an XSYNC-1, then you can also do RGB capture.

I don't like that it doesn't do any of the retro consoles.

What do people know about this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PC5HUA6/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Seems it has some of the same internals as the X-Capture One.

Yes, that's the same chip as the XCAPTURE-1/SC-5121-L DVI. And thus is a good suggestion to the person I responded to above as well.

 

[Timu]

The LGX still has a proprietary PS3 cable, and a proprietary Composite/Component in cable. And it bypassed via HDMI out, but the preview is quite low latency enough to be playable in realtime of capture.

Wow, I didn't know that, that's awesome!

 

[Naminator]

I wonder how this compares to Intensity Pro 4K + PtBi.

 

[ViciousDS]

Your friends should have internal cards then!!!=p

nope, we all have gaming laptops......all of us move around. My computer tower weighs 50 pounds....I'm dragging that everywhere i go.

 

[Mesoian]

Did they fix the software?

Because El Gato's included software is absolute ass.

 

[Omegabalmung9]

Now I can finally get rid of my external capture card.

 

[Bossniak]

I have a aver media live extreme and I'm happy with it, low latency as well. I am wondering if this new elgato is lower or about the same.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Is this not new?

- Master Copy: simultaneous 1080p60 H.264 recording while streaming

It's not new. It's a software feature that works will all three models (though only 1080p30fps on the original HD).

 

[Sorta Maximus]

I was thinking perhaps there was a way to do an external PCI to thunderbolt housing adapter, but it is most likely cheaper to just build a PC.

 

[Mozendo]

So it seems that the only difference is the delay?

 

[Broadbandito]

The second major feature of the HD60 Pro that we are excited to bring you is the ability to record your stream at up 60 Mbps, so that you can use this content at a later time to create high quality 1080p 60fps highlight videos. These can include your stream webcam and overlays, or just show pure gameplay.

The HD60 was 40 Mbps FYI.

This sounds awesome TBH.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

This sounds awesome TBH.

Not much use for Americans where the average upload speed is only like 40Mbps.

Also in that YouTube caps streaming at 10Mbps I believe.

 

[BeamImpact]

whats the general issue with 40mbit bitratio as a maximum recording?
havent found any visual issues with a 40mbit recording yet, also uploads to youtube even when watching them in 1080p60fps will give you a way lower bitratio so whats the need of 60mbit over 40mbit?

 

[Broadbandito]

Not much use for Americans where the average upload speed is only like 40Mbps.

Also in that YouTube caps streaming at 10Mbps I believe.

Fairly Certain this means I could stream 3mbps like usual and I could set my MASTER COPY RECORDING up to 60

 

[Cleve]

I'm surprised this has hdmi in on the card. Using a breakout box for equipment like this seems like such a no-brainer.

 

[KuroPyonyo]

Hmm, still not good enough.
I would love a card that could capture 1080p60 in RGB 4:4:4 completly uncompressed.

 

[Parfait]

Neat. I can play console games directly on my pc input on my TV and never have to switch inputs. Lag has always been a concern for me with these things but this seems practically lag free.

 

[BlueLiquid]

Is there really that much of a difference in quality with 40 Mbps vs. 60 in practice? I've been happy with the 40 Mbps quality on the HD60 but it's not perfect either.

And I can see the advantages of the PCI-E form factor from a technical/video quality standpoint but it's difficult for me to see how I could hook this up to my console and TV with the way the room is set up. It's one thing to use one extended USB cable (which is only hooked up when recording) from the HD60 to my desktop computer but for this I would need two long (and thus thicker) HDMI cables. I can't see that being workable.

 

[Sorta Maximus]

What bandwidth does the HD60PRO need exactly? I could buy a PCIE to Thunderbolt 2 housing adapter like this $350 one here: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EchoExpSE1 and perhaps I get a HD60PRO to work with my mid 2015 15-inch MacBook Pro with the same low latency. Thunderbolt 2 has 20gbps of bandwidth. Seems like the HD60PRO captures at 60mbps (mbps not gbps). Does anyone think that would work just as well?

Edit: Indeed, seems like I could get the above to work nicely bandwidth wise.

 

[komaruR]

So a release of alternate avermedia live gamer hd choice, but years later? No thank you

 

[friskykillface]

Wish I could stream 3DS/DS/Vita x handhelds

Thought they already had internal streaming from el gato but that's a cool update , might get that in the future

 

[Sorta Maximus]

I just found a post online that basically notes Thunderbolt has 9 microseconds of lag. And PCIE x1 slots seem to have lower than Thunderbolt 2 bandwidth limits.

 

[FrenchFryFiend]

Is there anything like this that allows for recording/streaming of older consoles, such as the SNES? Is it possible with an HDMI converter?

EDIT: This is probably a super ignorant question, so sorry in advance and thanks for any replies/suggestions.

The Original Elgato HD has an SD breakout cord that comes with and it is still sold.

I already have an elgato HD60 and I am waiting on them to bring out some features that will give me a reason to upgrade. I know that consoles are only going up to 1080p now, but they could add USB 3.1 with lower latency and possibly slightly higher resolution capablities.

 

[Have a Nice Day]

Not much use for Americans where the average upload speed is only like 40Mbps.

I don't think any company that handle and maintain servers would want to receive a constant 40mbps stream of data from hundreds individuals at once. I hear you can upload at ~9mbps bitrate on Youtube Gaming.

 

[vilmer_]

So ah like I said in the other thread.

Hopefully someone will do a comparison with this and the Micomsoft SC-512N1-L/DVI, the current reigning best capture card.

It'll be interesting to see. The Micomsoft card is the best capture card I've ever owned by a long shot.

 

[Mystic654]

I wonder how this compares to Intensity Pro 4K + PtBi.

Allot better, Since BlackMagic drivers are horrible.

 

[Shining Sunshine]

It'll be interesting to see. The Micomsoft card is the best capture card I've ever owned by a long shot.

Yeah, I'm wondering what I should get because that Micomsoft is an insanely expensive import.

If this Elgato proves good, I might get it just because it's more readily available versus the near $400 price tag I'll probably face importing Micomsoft's capture card.

 

[Lettuce]

Can it capture 5.1 PCM, DD or DTS though??

The Micomsoft XCAPTURE-1 still wipes the floor with the competition!!!