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How is Versus XIII not sinking Square-Enix at this point?
I guess the Eidos stuff most be pulling in a lot of money.
I guess the Eidos stuff most be pulling in a lot of money.
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-Pyromaniac-
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also isn't the guy that did advent children doing the cut scenes? He wouldn't be on the game I would think unless he had more to work with.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I think it might be appropriate to rename Versus to Final Fantasy Forever.
Square Enix: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=SQNXF.PK+Key+Statistics
Total Cash: $1.39 billion
Total Debt: $510.35 million
They're still quite wealthy.
Yes.
RustyNails
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That means Nomura can take 25 years to finish versus if he wants to
Who is "the guy that did advent children"? The realtime cutscenes in Versus should be directed by Jun Akiyama, the event planner for KH1, VS, and FFXII.
-Pyromaniac-
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I can't remember the exact details but I'm like, 99% sure I read something similar to what I said. Maybe Kagari knows what I'm referring to (whether it's right or wrong), I know I read it. I'm not crazy!
H_Prestige
Banned
I think you're talking about the FMV. Real time scenes are done by the KH1/FFXII guy.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
yeah I am talking about the FMV cutscenes, I guess I should have been more clear when I said "the" cutscenes, lol. I didn't mention it because Kagari mentioned CG in the post I was adding to.
Maybe you're thinking of Takeshi Nozue? He's the co-director of Advent Children, and the movie director for Versus. He's directing the FMVs, but recently he also joined the realtime graphics team to help with implementation of the improved lighting system and so on. So the question of whether the realtime cutscene team in Versus and the Visualworks FMV team are really two completely different teams is no longer as clear as it used to be.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
ah yeah he must be the person I was referring to since he is obviously working on the game. I didn't know he joined the realtime graphics team considering all he has seemed to do in his career is CG/Animation. I figure if he is working on the game, it must at least mostly be for FMVs since that seems to be his speciality. In fact I don't see anything his credits that would lead me to believe that he can actually do other stuff
But hey the more you know.
HamPster PamPster
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The first Final Fantasy came out in 1987 right? That would make 2012 the 25th anniversary
It would be cool if SE can get Verses out this year and build a whole anniversary celebration around it. I'd start by dropping the Verses XIII nonsense and naming it Final Fantasy Anniversary. Take the year to remind people about the good old days but also promise a "bold new direction"
It would be cool if SE can get Verses out this year and build a whole anniversary celebration around it. I'd start by dropping the Verses XIII nonsense and naming it Final Fantasy Anniversary. Take the year to remind people about the good old days but also promise a "bold new direction"
ah yeah he must be the person I was referring to since he is obviously working on the game. I didn't know he joined the realtime graphics team considering all he has seemed to do in his career is CG/Animation. I figure if he is working on the game, it must at least mostly be for FMVs since that seems to be his speciality. In fact I don't see anything his credits that would lead me to believe that he can actually do other stuff
But hey the more you know.
Yes, that was sort of the point. Once the realtime graphics hit a certain point in terms of technical quality, it would be beneficial to have someone who is experienced with CG work to advise or help with the staging, especially in terms of lighting and so on. To be honest, if you ask me every interview I read it just sounds like Nomura is a little too ambitious and the project doesn't sound completely locked down in terms of features and standards.
If that is the real reason why it is taking so long, then that's a very very bad thing. That sort of production management never works out in game development, ever. You'll just end up overburning everyone on the team and productivity will eventually slow to a crawl while the majority of work still isn't anywhere near complete.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
makes sense
they are barely able to show it running on the console it's being made for lol, having it up and running on another ready to show off would be like 9 years away in square enix time.
What, you mean you're not super excited at the prospect of playing a cheapo 3DS rhythm game, and maybe a long delayed vaporware game and a HD port of a 10 year old PS2 game?!
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Even 14?
Maybe that one can wait till 2.0. ;3
Gotta strike while the subscriptions are still cheap! Amirite?
Box of Bunnies
Banned
The article made it pretty clear this was a lesson to be applied company-wide if they had any intention of putting their projects out in a timely manner because the problem behind it was endemic to the company, and Square's R&D guy also has said as much at GDC. That another team would have another development pipeline would precisely be a problem, because all of S-E's tech efforts since the beginning of FF12's development have been to unify the pipeline so teams wouldn't waste development time reinventing the engine and tools as they routinely did in the previous generations (where it was tolerable because until the end of the PS1 era it was still feasible to create a whole AAA game from scratch in months instead of years).
sublimit
Banned
Why not up the ante. Which game will come out at all?
Both.Versus for PS3 in 2013 and The Last Guardian for PS4 in 2014.
FF12 came out under the same conditions pretty much.
Rahxephon91
Banned
Why cancel what you can just put on the next consoles?
So kinda like Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy IX, and Final Fantasy XII then?
njean777
Member
Difference is those games were far cheaper then developing for "hd" consoles. At least i think it would be far cheaper.
Do you really think making FFXII cost far less than making FFXIII?
BlazingDarkness
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Noctis just isn't fabulous enough yet, needs more time!
nelsonroyale
Member
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H_Prestige
Banned
It took Nomura years to perfect Noctis' hair.
To me it seems like Nomura keeps finding all sorts of stuff to add or tweak with the game... or outright changing things like the Noctis/Stella scene.
I think that scene was fine the way it was, but Nomura wants it perfect I suppose.
Rahxephon91
Banned
Let's hope he doesn't fall "sick" like Matsuno did.
Maybe he should. Then someone could come in and actually finish the game.
But then I guess Sqaure would lose their prince and be screwed.
BlazingDarkness
Member
SHUSH, YOU.
With FFXII, the people Matsuno had under him (who took over when he got "sick") were the art director of OB, TO, FFT, and VS, and the lead designer of FFV, FFVI, FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX, FFT.
In comparison, if Nomura were to fall "sick" now, the two people taking over Versus will be the director of Dirge of Cerberus, and the battle director of PE2, KH, and KH2.
Think about this for a moment. Lol.
What if the problem isn't quantity but quality?
I think it is supposed to be darker and more realistic then any final fantasy game before it. Halfway through it turns into a first person shooter.