No no no. Depth of field, motion blur, flare, post process effects, particle effects, dynamic lighting and shadows etc are all important next gen graphical additions.
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New Killzone: Shadow Fall gameplay
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No no no. Depth of field, motion blur, flare, post process effects, particle effects, dynamic lighting and shadows etc are all important next gen graphical additions.
TheRealTalker
Banned
true people are like:
Hmrgh! KZ3 was too linear (shows KZ SF's more open forrest lvl)
then: Hmrgh! KZ SF's open area makes it more plain then scripted sequences BORING
or...
Hmrgh! the KZ series doesn't have enough colour (shows more colour)
then: Hmrgh! KZ SF's colour makes it less war-like... oh and blue and orange Derp
seriously I know it's not everyone but these guys can't take a break this is just an old build but people are already in arms to completely attack GG espcially the Crytek fans
With you on that.
I think they should follow their own vision. Coming to a forum can have the same effect as focus groups. My complaints pertain to the overall vision of the game and nagging technical issues like pop ins. The rest, I leave up to GG to surprise me with.
iamshadowlark
Banned
SniperHunter
Banned
those flying things in Killzone 2 and 3, they have too much HP and can kill you with ease, further they require no maintenance. They just feel cheap
Dictator93
Member
DId you play the first games at all?
They all pretty heavily use death of field, motionblur, and lens flare. In fact... the games are heavily post processed.
Killzone games are *always* nitpicked and I don't get this.
Killzone 2 = the characters are slow and heavy in the movements.
They change the movements, make them lighter and more responsive.
Killzone 3 = the movements are awful! Looks like CoD !!! (CoD ?!?! I mean, have you guys played CoD after playing Killzone 3 ?)
Once it's the colors, then the gameplay, the visual, the lens flare, everything! People really enjoy to bash this franchise!
I cannot wait to see the MP and for sure a lot of people will find something to complain about.
Ps I saw the game at the E3 (I had almost the chance to try it ... sigh) and we talked with one of the dev and we expressed some concern about the game looking easy. He smile and said the game was demoed in the normal difficulty and anyway, the difficulty is dynamic.
Now try to figure out in hard with dynamic difficulty...
Neuromancer
Member
Probably you're talking about two different groups of people. I've wanted Killzone to be more open, and more colorful, and I have no complaints about this latest footage.
You're going to be eating a lot of crow on release. I'm almost certain the final game will look better than these press shots, which frankly are not all that.
May I remind you.
What we got in the end...
Ok, I must admit I haven't pay too much attention to the Halo 4 thread, but well, other games are not so nitpicked anyway.
No post process effects? Lol. You've got the wrong game fella. What you're describing just sounds bland and sterile. KZ is and always has been about effects and processing being pumped to 11. In fact, Shadow Fall is not exaggerated enough.
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Deleted member 80556
Unconfirmed Member
Pretty sure the last two pictures are from KZ3, nib. But your point still stands.
Nah. The last area in KZ2. The air station that the game starts and ends in.
KZ3 actually looks much better graphically in screens, though not quite as stylised.
But yea, people always underestimate GG's technical capabilities and always end up eating crow. Has happened for over a decade now.
I want KZ2 level motion blur and hit reactions to make a return so badly. I loves me some motion blur and the hit reactions made combat feel so much more dynamic.You're going to be eating a lot of crow on release. I'm almost certain the final game will look better than these press shots, which frankly are not all that.
May I remind you.
What we got in the end...
velociraptor
Junior Member
You're going to be eating a lot of crow on release. I'm almost certain the final game will look better than these press shots, which frankly are not all that.
May I remind you.
What we got in the end...
I am surprised at how well Killzone 2 holds up. Looks as good as anything out there. I love the blur effects and post processing. Better be in the final game, lol.
That's the problem with Shadowfall. It just looks sterile.
Maybe it looks "sterile" (at your eyes, of course) because they showed the "utopian like" part of Vekta and I totally *love* how it turned out.
I can't wait to see what the Helghast side of Vekta looks like!
mickcenary
Member
You're going to be eating a lot of crow on release. I'm almost certain the final game will look better than these press shots, which frankly are not all that.
May I remind you.
What we got in the end...
Ugh. What a fucking gorgeous game. Best weapon models? Check. Best character models? Check. Best lighting? Check. All in the same goddamn screens.
Unfortunately, with SF, the more I see, the more my hype deflates, but I'll stay faithful to the death knell.
EDIT: Also, if I had it my way, GG would have a $1 billion post-processing budget. Love that shit.
Unfortunately GG like Evolution and a few others, leave polishing to the final stages of development. We know the game is basically complete, so these next few months will be spent polishing it up and making it prettier. Like I said, we've had over a decade of people doubting GG's technical capabilities, but they've never not delivered. Unless being a launch title really hinders them, or something major has come up stopping them from having time to spend polishing the visuals, it will be the same trend as always, and the game will get better looking by release. I'm confident of it.
My prediction is KZ SF will set the benchmark for next gen visuals for a good several months.
Net_Wrecker
Member
The best thing about those screens is that every one of them uses lighting, colors, and tints without being overbearing or losing the moody atmosphere. Those screens are prime Killzone; cohesive art, almost "back-lit" use of lighting + color (either behind the enemies or behind the player), and remaining oppressive and industrial throughout. I love that look, and Guerrilla does it so well.
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Deleted member 80556
Unconfirmed Member
I'm pretty sure that KZ2 doesn't start and end in the same place hehe.
I think BF4 will outclass it and set the benchmark.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Really don't get this incessant negativity.
It seems like everything the PS4 does is never good enough.
These are launch games people. They look outstanding for launch games.
Did you forget what the PS3's launch titles looked like? They were rather weak,
OH and as for the main characters weapon. I actually really like the design.
Screw the old rifle. It looked and fired way too much like a standard military rifle from the current era.
I'm tired of seeing weapons like that in futuristic FPS. IT makes no sense that people who've mastered intergalactic travel hundreds of years from now would still be using the same rifle technology we have now. That is why it is so tiresome seeing them over and over again in futuristic FPS like KZ and Halo.
It seems like everything the PS4 does is never good enough.
These are launch games people. They look outstanding for launch games.
Did you forget what the PS3's launch titles looked like? They were rather weak,
OH and as for the main characters weapon. I actually really like the design.
Screw the old rifle. It looked and fired way too much like a standard military rifle from the current era.
I'm tired of seeing weapons like that in futuristic FPS. IT makes no sense that people who've mastered intergalactic travel hundreds of years from now would still be using the same rifle technology we have now. That is why it is so tiresome seeing them over and over again in futuristic FPS like KZ and Halo.
You're right. Forgot about that Final Visari level. But yea, near the end anyway lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_nU7DsD2UM&t=4m47s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9q5CaMQEOc
The fans should be the priority first and foremost,haters will always hate.
makingmusic476
Member
Imagine if GG somehow assembled a team of writers and cutscene directors on the level of Naughty Dog over the past three years.
Then feel sad when you realize there's no way in hell anything close to that happened. =(
I want the Killzone universe done justice, dammit!
Then feel sad when you realize there's no way in hell anything close to that happened. =(
I want the Killzone universe done justice, dammit!
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
I don't think we will have to wait that long.
I suspect we may see it before the end of this year. Whenever Naughty Dog gets around to showing off what they have coming.
SolidSnakex
Member
That could happen by the end of the year if ND holds to their recent history of unveiling their new game at the VGA's. I think many are expecting their next title to hit in 2014, so it'd probably need to be unveiled this year. Especially if it's a new IP.
securitypigeon
Banned
SF looks like a completely solid launch FPS. I'm looking forward to it. It's probably no PDZ, y'know.
TrojanBlade
Member
What an absolutely beautiful game...even though KZ3 was technically more advanced than KZ2, but KZ2 looks sooooo much better. Just love the cinematic style it had. I wish we get a KZ2HD on PS4 as I don't see KZSF remotely close to KZ2's art style. Remember this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPL6kfm8Ai4
Give me this on PS4 GG!!! I hope they improve the animations and hit reactions + motion blur in the final release.
nelsonroyale
Member
Maybe if it can keep the current fidelity and hit 60 fps. The city level of KZ sure impresses me more than anything I have seen from BF4 though. Looks flat out better than the city multiplayer map, and has much bigger scale and overall scene density than any of the SP level shown. BF4 SP is of course very cinematically scripted, which definitely gives it some visual punch. It does look like you are shooting some dudes inside a cutscene though sometimes.
One thing that is interesting, is that KZ games on PS3 very much focused on delivering a cinematic experience. Whereas I find this game is presented in a much less cinematic way. To me the city level looks absolutely incredible, but if anything I think they should present it a bit better, as they have done in previous games in the series.
I gotta be honest, I kinda liked the sixaxis use in Killzone 2 / 3 - it really was kinda cool TBH - and wasn't too intrusive.
I really liked KZ2 - I think the combat was tight, I liked the "lag" on the controller making me feel heavy. The graphics were pretty close to the target render.
Not the greatest game in the world but it was pretty cool.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Comparing the BF4 9 min trailer and the two K:SF trailers, I would say no.
BF4 still has the spectre of a current-gen game to it. And it would as it's main audience is 360 and PS3 players, lest we forget.
Pound_lb003
Member
Killzone 2 was the nearest shot, and even then, I don't think story should play quite such an important role in the franchise.
I think it was the mistake with inFamous 2, Resistance 3 and Killzone 3 - was to be following so closely in the footsteps of Uncharted, with mocap high-budget cutscenes.
Not every game needs that.
Killzone story should be told during the gameplay.
You're going to be eating a lot of crow on release. I'm almost certain the final game will look better than these press shots, which frankly are not all that.
May I remind you.
What we got in the end...
I am a big kz2 fan but ugh shadow of fall not seems even at the same level of the ps3 Guerrilla production. I can't believe how much I'm more impressed about the graphic of KZ2/3 compared the last KZ on ps4. The hell it's happened? Even Sucker Punch will put in the shame the next Guerrilla game.
liquidspeed
Member
Nate in Uncharted 2 is 80,000 Polygons.
Wat? Lol no.
liquidspeed
Member
There were articles about it but they may be erroneous:
https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy...08,d.aWM&fp=a144351cce8306e3&biw=1366&bih=618
https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy...08,d.aWM&fp=a144351cce8306e3&biw=1366&bih=618
BF4 has better character models, textures, animations, particle effects and is running at 60fps. Not to mention, the game also having destructibility. What was shown running on a PC based on XB1's specs at E3 looks better than what has been shown for KZSF so far. Frostbite 3 is a very impressive engine.
Fried Food
Banned
The graphics look fine, the gameplay looks boring. I wish they would stop showing that same railgun-looking gun.