You guys that love it I suspect haven't bothered to play the game since it became rampant. Once everyone was doing it and you couldn't "own" anymore the game became dull as shit. Those of us that just wanted to play the game and have fun always had to put up with you guys. I really hope the Wii version has a Snaking option then we'll see how the game gets played. I suspect one option will be packed and hella fun and the other will have a couple of losers hoping someone mistakenly joins so they can own.
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New (?) Mario Kart Wii info (Snaking confirmed)
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Tyrone Slothrop
Banned
i'm going to cross my fingers that the controls will really reinvent the franchise, snaking or no snaking, to something better that can't really be compared to the games before it
but you never know. could be just MKDD +waggle
but you never know. could be just MKDD +waggle
radioheadrule83
Banned
Feep said:
Whats your source say on a release for this?
Or anyones source for that matter?
Is there a target quarter we're expecting it in?
Holy Order Sol
Member
darscot said:
I actually stopped playing the game because I couldn't find enough snakers to play with back then.
Not to mention the fact that I don't care about those who "just wanted to play the game". Guess what, I wanted to play the game too, so I learned.
Also you're making that baseless assumption that all people who snake are "losers hoping someone mistakenly joins so they can own".
underfooter
Banned
Mario Kart is going to look pathetic releasing after Smash Bros. Unless they include track editors, insane amounts of levels, characters, challenges, a one-player mode....well, I'll be disappointed.
There's a chance I'll be surprised.
There's a chance I'll be surprised.
Holy Order Sol said:
Assumptions yes baseless no. I played the game and learned pretty quick that even the guys that snake didn't like to play much when they didn't win. The majority of Snakers talk smack about how its a skill that we should learn. That because all the do is play against people that didn't do it. I just got tired of hearing if you could you would. It was total crap.
Chibbi Brady
Member
I remember the first week or so of MKDS online, insane fun. Probably one of the most fun online experiences I've ever had.
TheGreatDave
Banned
underfooter said:
I think Mario Kart DS was a real step in the right direction. I loved it's challenges and GP replay value. A track editor really should be expected I think.
Stormbringer
Member
Feep said:
I guess everything will be settled as soon as we get the next big Mario Kart Wii informations blow-out... Maybe at GDC ?...
polyh3dron
Banned
Snaking?
Fuck.
Fuck.
TheGreatDave
Banned
Jammy said:
"Community". Take the replays from Smash and distribute them the same way, level editor with the ability to share, etc. Hopefully this stuff is in place for the network as a whole.
Wow, people complain about Sonic's 'Shitty friends', yet they fill in character spots in Mario spin offs with baby versions of the same characters? They have so many great characters they could put in, but baby Peach? :lol
As for the snaking, are people forgetting how Wii online gaming works? They will hopefully have it like Smash Bros where you can choose to play against random players or people on your friend list, so you could be picky about who you play against to avoid the avid snakers. Still kind of spoils the experience a little, though.
As for the snaking, are people forgetting how Wii online gaming works? They will hopefully have it like Smash Bros where you can choose to play against random players or people on your friend list, so you could be picky about who you play against to avoid the avid snakers. Still kind of spoils the experience a little, though.
PunjabiPlaya
Member
Snaking = No buy for me. 
>_<
Not really, I'll still buy it, but imo snaking ruins the game.
Earthstrike
Member
Snaking, eh? Guess people aren't going to enjoy invariably sucking at the game because they love crying too much.
I've been snaking since the days of MK64 (well before I'd ever heard of the term) and never got shit for it until one of my buddies bitched me out for it in MKDS. Like wavedashing in Smash Bros., I really can't understand how anyone thinks it's exploiting the game's mechanics to the degree that it qualifies as "cheating." It's like accusing someone of cheating in, say, Contra III for constantly switching between primary and secondary weapons to eliminate lag time between shots.
I know, so many great Mario characters: Koopalings, Tatanga,
, and they choose Baby Peach?
You know, Mario Kart is really fun, but I just can't get excited about it. ATM, the Wii version seems rather...barebones. Kirby's Air Ride had flaws, but was PACKED full of content. I'd like them to do something similar with Mario Kart.
Geno
You know, Mario Kart is really fun, but I just can't get excited about it. ATM, the Wii version seems rather...barebones. Kirby's Air Ride had flaws, but was PACKED full of content. I'd like them to do something similar with Mario Kart.
Zoramon089
Banned
Edag Plata said:
I kinda wish people didn't throw around the work gimmick so easily...Excite Truck controls are not gimmicky. They're in no way forced and are actually intuitive...although using the wiimote aiming for items does open up new and interesting possibilities, the current controls are no where near gimmicky
Playing mario kart against strangers is lame as hell. Whats the point? I got more than enough enjoyment out of MKDS with single player and wireless multi, I played the random online mode maybe 10 times tops. If I can't talk shit to someone in person after hitting them with a shell feet before the finish line I might as well be playing another game. I don't get people that feel the need to be this leet Mario Karter so much so that people occasionally using an exploit to beat them makes the entire game worthless. It's fucking Mario Kart! The game is about having fun with your friends. Maybe I just play games for different reasons.
Oh yeah and i'm very happy about the exite truck controlls. Best way to play a racing game without a wheel imo.
Oh yeah and i'm very happy about the exite truck controlls. Best way to play a racing game without a wheel imo.
wandering goat
Member
I agree that a cool-down period after you use a turbo-boost would fix things. Even better is if after a boost, you can't drift around corners for that cool-down period. This would add a bit of strategy as to when to use it when it comes to taking several corners in succession (get the boost now and lose the ability to drift around the next turn), and perhaps remove some of the incentive to boost on straightaways (if you boost now, you can't drift around the upcoming turn).
I snaked in Mario Kart DS very effectively, it's an extremely easy trick to learn and use. I was still hoping it was gone though because it's so damn boring. You just do the same thing over and over and over again throughout every race, and whoever does it best wins. It's also way too huge an advantage. Snaking basically replaces the act of driving straight in Mario Kart, and the speed bonus for using it is enormous. It's not like wavedashing in Smash which is difficult to learn and harder still to use to an actual advantage, snaking basically automatically elevates someone to "free win" status over everyone else that doesn't use it. I think that's ridiculous. You can have a skill curve in a racing game without implementing dumb techniques like this.
Also, if standard controllers are an option and they make snaking easier, motion controls will be completely worthless in online play.
Also, if standard controllers are an option and they make snaking easier, motion controls will be completely worthless in online play.
Sweedishrodeo
the smegma spreader
snaking isnt good or bad. its just a part of the game.
Sweedishrodeo
the smegma spreader
theres alot of hate on this game already, damn. itll probably be alot of fun and ill probably play the shit out of it. i still really enjoyed the GC Kart game even though it was definitely the weakest link. we'll see. exciting trucks was the bomb though so im looking forward to the controls.
ps baby park better be one of the tracks.
youre right. maybe i just dont understand the big deal. its easy to do and it makes you go faster. i used to play the DS version constantly and snaked whenever possible. no complaints here.
ps baby park better be one of the tracks.
cedric69 said:
youre right. maybe i just dont understand the big deal. its easy to do and it makes you go faster. i used to play the DS version constantly and snaked whenever possible. no complaints here.
Bidermaier
Member
Now the most of the tracks are not too fast paced. That is why snaking exist. I would get bored on many tracks if i could not do some snaking.
What they have to do is to punish hard the snakers when they hit "straight mode" drivers
What they have to do is to punish hard the snakers when they hit "straight mode" drivers
So, unfamiliar with what snaking looked like in MKDS, I checked out a youtube video, and not only does it look incredibly easy, but I mostly do it already, to a lesser extent (in Double Dash). I thought it was more akin to the snaking in F-Zero, which I have heard is quite difficult to handle.
MGrant said:
This is why I stopped playing MKDS. It was a good game but ultimately ruined by all this ass-backwards bullshit that continues to persist in the series. AT LEAST give players the option to turn off those stupid blue shells. And I hear you on the red shell business: they're nearly unavoidable in MKDS. I remember being able to dodge them with some skillful turning or item dragging.
Snaking completely ruined online. Rubber-band AI and giving the best items to players staying back is also more BS that needs to be dumped from the series.
Scalpel Knight
Member
Koopa Troopa is in Double Dash.Gigglepoo said:
The Faceless Master
Member
you have a fighting game character in your name.Holy Order Sol said:
that automatically excludes you from this discussion.
i'm surprised you didn't like to an article from sirlin.net
Threi said:
Ha, we agree on Crash Team Racing.
And no, snaking isn't like CTR because CTR has time based boosts (have to wait a certain amount of time before you can boost). Only Super Circuit for the GBA had this mechanic I believe.
The problem with MKDS was that, because boosts on certain karts lasted so long, you could immediately go into another power slide and pull off another boost just as the first one ended, so that you'd never ever slow down. You ended up going so fast that it was impossible to keep up unless the course made it impossible for snaking, which never happened (all those people that said they beat people on other courses, especially Sky Garden, have only been playing against bad snakers. Tracks like Sky Garden could easily be snaked the whole way through, including through the cloud shortcut. If you don't believe me, go look up Time Trials).
The other thing, as someone mentioned, was that power slide boosts equated to mushroom boosts, so you could drive over everything and never slow down, allowing you to take every shortcut out there that normally needed a mushroom (well, at least in 150cc).
I miss CTR...
Sweedishrodeo said:
I'm still surprised at how many people feel this way about Double Dash for some reason. I'll admit items were quite a bit more powerful than before, but I still felt like the worst Mario Kart was Super Circuit for the GBA. Then again, it's probably loved more since it's most like the original, coins and all.
Femmeworth
Banned
Snaking? Well there goes any drive I had for this. *fingers shed tears at the thought of snaking again*
Souldriver
Member
greendublin said:
AndoCalrissian
Member
Hopefully they don't pick stupid tracks this time. Who the hell wants to play Moo Moo Farm? Ever?
As a side note, anyone want to see Super Kart Bros.?
As a side note, anyone want to see Super Kart Bros.?
WrathOfOtaibah
Banned
What the fuck is this shit?
Baby Peach?
Snaking?
Excite Truck controls?
Interest has been halved.
Baby Peach?
Snaking?
Excite Truck controls?
Interest has been halved.