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[Gravijah]

I don't get it.

Spoiler

Of course the price is only going to be the same until Sony drops it. Think about it.

 

[Einbroch]

I don't get it.

He basically said "Sony will cut the price when they cut the price".

 

[Huevos de Oro]

I don't get it.

Holy shit.

Spoiler

Gravijah summed it up.

 

[gbovo]

Sony needs to take that power supply out of the case and make a new truly slim version of the PS3.

I guess that will happen when it hits $199.

It might actually cost more money for Sony to make the psu external, due to more material needed for a power brick.

 

[dimb]

Sony needs to take that power supply out of the case and make a new truly slim version of the PS3.

I guess that will happen when it hits $199.

What a weird thing to want. Power bricks are the worst.

 

[TheSeks]

Hey, Sony. If you're dropping the price, why not add in PS2 BC instead?

What's that? Not going to happen? And you're not going to fix my PS2 BC PS3 for free? Yeah?

FUCK YOU THEN.

 

[androvsky]

I wonder if its BC.

Sorry, you'll have to rely on the hackers for that.
http://www.cobra-usb.com/index.html

Added an option for those users without a PS2 backwards compatible PS3 (including Slims) to test PS2 original games and ISO backups using the PS2 software only emulator which is by default included with all PS3's. Please note however that as the software only emulator is slow and very buggy, this feature is disabled by default and is only intended as a gimmick

Was tempted to spoiler the last sentence.

Of course, these new Slims will certainly have the newer firmware with the new keys already installed, so even that won't work.

 

[alr1ght]

Hey, Sony. If you're dropping the price, why not add in PS2 BC instead?

What's that? Not going to happen? And you're not going to fix my PS2 BC PS3 for free? Yeah?

FUCK YOU THEN.

 

[vazel]

No LEDs! My single biggest gripe with electronics.

 

[theBishop]

I hope it's true. The current slim model isn't slim enough to shelf my 60GB launch unit. But I would like a quieter unit that saps less power.

 

[1-D_FTW]

probably means the power supply dropped from a 230 watt spec version to a 200 watt spec one? doesn't mean that's what it's actually pulling from the wall at all times, just its peak output supported.

Exactly. Although it's reasonable to think the peak usage dropped from 115 watts to 100.

 

[Massa]

Surprised it's the same HD size. This will be the first year in the PS3's life Sony doesn't bump it.

06 -> 20/60
07 -> 40/80
08 -> 80/160
09 -> 120/250
10 -> 160/320

 

[pharmboy044]

What a weird thing to want. Power bricks are the worst.

I personally do not want a brick for a power supply but to entice new customers Sony should make a new slim model.
And the only way to make that new slim is to take out the power supply.

 

[Fezan]

What a weird thing to want. Power bricks are the worst.

Power crick outside means less heat produced and less chance of getting errors.moreover they can also use cheaper alternative for cooling???
also you dont have to open up ps3 just for some problem in power supply

 

[Krev]

Really good news.
If Sony can put this on the market for $199 then it will be quite an amazing value proposition.

Goddammit Sony, now we still won't know who will win the generation. First it was 360 leading with a huge margin, then BOOM Wii out of nowhere to the lead, Sony dropping last, then 360 back to the lead with Kinect, Wii to last place, 360 heading for the win for good but now Sony re-emerges with staying power and superb value with cheap PS3

Most confusing generation ever

It's easy to have a huge margin over the competition when they haven't hit the market yet.
Also, Wii is still in the lead. Though with the gen looking to last quite a while longer and the 360 and PS3 growing in popularity as the Wii falls off a cliff, obviously that won't be the case when all's said and done.

 

[Revolver]

Hey, Sony. If you're dropping the price, why not add in PS2 BC instead?

What's that? Not going to happen? And you're not going to fix my PS2 BC PS3 for free? Yeah?

FUCK YOU THEN.

My 80gig with BC just died so I'm fucking pissed. I took care of that thing like a baby. It would have been 3 years old in August. Now I have a glossy brick sitting there reminding me never to buy hardware early on ever again.

 

[funkystudent]

I will guess this new model will have some new security features they cant just patch into old models.

First new model since all the ps3 CFW stuff happened.

 

[Corky]

Now I have a glossy brick sitting there reminding me never to buy hardware early on ever again.

Had you not you would never have gotten that sweet BC to begin with

 

[zero_suit]

Really good news.
If Sony can put this on the market for $199 then it will be quite an amazing value proposition.

It's easy to have a huge margin over the competition when they haven't hit the market yet.
Also, Wii is still in the lead. Though with the gen looking to last quite a while longer and the 360 and PS3 growing in popularity as the Wii falls off a cliff, obviously that won't be the case when all's said and done.

Yup, 30+ million ahead. It won the "race" ages ago.

 

[H_Prestige]

Hey, Sony. If you're dropping the price, why not add in PS2 BC instead?

Uh, building a ps2 onto the motherboard like the early models increases production costs, does not make it cheaper. You won't see ps2 software emulation until the ps4. Just hope for more HD ports until then.

And they need to drop the price because right now ps3 is $299 and they are competing with $150 Wii and $199 360.

 

[davepoobond]

it doesnt matter if wii is still in the lead. they're going to start over again with Wii U.


also, they better put a ps2 back into that ps3 one of these days and charge 400 dollars for it or something. at least people can stop whining.

 

[Lupin the Third]

Uh, building a ps2 onto the motherboard like the early models increases production costs, does not make it cheaper.

He's saying Sony should keep the existing price point and add PS2 support back in.

It's not happening, guys. The dream is dead.

 

[hiro4]

Do they really have to wait for a lot of patches? I'm guessing the thing comes patched.

I think he means the older games you can now buy cheap.

I remember buying Burnout Paradise last year and had to patch it with 2 gig of data. Same with Pain for PSN: 1.3 gig.

That sucks with this generation. If I buy a game I want to put it in and play it. Dont want to wait another two hours for patches and install files.

 

[H_Prestige]

Changes to the eject/power buttons? How can they make them even worse (i.e. cheaper) than what they already are? I really like my 60gb's touch sensitive buttons. Feels so sleek.

 

[M.D]

Power crick outside means less heat produced and less chance of getting errors.moreover they can also use cheaper alternative for cooling???
also you dont have to open up ps3 just for some problem in power supply

I'll take more reliable hardware over no power brick

Why the hell is console hardware not reliable anyway? You'd think when they make the same box with the same parts millions of times, there would be no reason for hardware problems

Why do PC's with with different parts from different companies are so reliable and work perfectly together, but these companies can't make a box that won't break at some point in it life :|

 

[Man]

PS2 BC support will be a PS4 and higher feature. The best games are coming out in HD variants anyways..

 

[Gravijah]

PS2 BC support will be a PS4 and higher feature. The best games are coming out in HD variants anyways..

I wouldn't say best. I would just say most popular.

 

[Tiduz]

i just bought a replacement new 320gb ps3 3 weeks ago....

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

 

[elsk]

Still waiting for the price drop to 199$.

I think he means the older games you can now buy cheap.

I remember buying Burnout Paradise last year and had to patch it with 2 gig of data. Same with Pain for PSN: 1.3 gig.

That sucks with this generation. If I buy a game I want to put it in and play it. Dont want to wait another two hours for patches and install files.

That's one of the good things about Xbox, Microsoft really knows how to do software-related things for the system.

 

[H_Prestige]

I'll take more reliable hardware over no power brick

Why the hell is console hardware not reliable anyway? You'd think when they make the same box with the same parts millions of times, there would be no reason for hardware problems

Why do PC's with with different parts from different companies are so reliable and work perfectly together, but these companies can't make a box that won't break at some point in it life :|

What?

And I think quality control issues stem from mass production, not solved by it.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

If it's wireless N I might get it. streaming HD video to the PS3 is nearly impossible now that I'm living in a new house and my PC and PS3 are not in the same room

Buy a second router and set up a simple wireless bridge.

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Wireless_Bridge


It's my setup and I can stream anything across the house in HD (of any level of quality), wirelessly.

 

[Killthee]

So I take it this is the revision with the new BD copy protection.

Rumor: New PS3 revision coming, new copy protection along with BD-J for BD-3D

According to a well-placed industry source who wishes to remain anonymous, developers were recently notified that a new revision of the PlayStation 3 is in the testing process that will feature a new copy protection system not on the motherboard but inside the BD-ROM drive itself, similar to the Xbox 360.

Presumably this would at least prevent these newer consoles from running copied games with an additional layer of authentication. It’s likely that there will be some kind of watermark on genuine PlayStation 3 discs that the drive is looking for. All of these measures are in response to the acquisition of the PS3 root encryption key earlier this year (2011) by hacker GeoHot which allows unlicensed code to be run on the PlayStation without restriction.

This new hardware revision will be accompanied by a firmware upgrade that contains newly optimized Blu-ray playback drivers that can now handle BD-Java during Blu-ray 3D playback, at least on the 2D level.

This is a godsend for Blu-ray authors because they no longer have to author discs 3 times. Once for 2D, once for PS3 and once for full power BD3D.

There is no news whether or not this new firmware will also bring lossless audio to PS3 3D playback but our source indicates they doubt that this feature will be added any time soon due to the number of SPEs decoding the additional 1080p stream occupies.

This hardware revision is expected to accompany a price drop on the system hardware that could come as early as the Tokyo Game Show this September (2011).

 

[theBishop]

Surprised it's the same HD size. This will be the first year in the PS3's life Sony doesn't bump it.

06 -> 20/60
07 -> 40/80
08 -> 80/160
09 -> 120/250
10 -> 160/320

2.5" drives have hit a wall. Only a few manufacturers are making drives larger than 1TB. The vast majority of laptops ship with 500 gb drives, which would be a decent chunk of the PS3's bill of materials. I'm surprised they're up to 320GB to be honest. There isn't much need for it, even with 8GB game installs.

 

[Benjamin1981]

Still no USB port in the back?

Come on Sony. At least someone from the hardware team with a little taste for a clean set up must be asking himself why they are only having USB ports in the front. Their designers can't really be that ignorant.

 

[Lupin the Third]

I'll take more reliable hardware over no power brick

Why the hell is console hardware not reliable anyway? You'd think when they make the same box with the same parts millions of times, there would be no reason for hardware problems

Why do PC's with with different parts from different companies are so reliable and work perfectly together, but these companies can't make a box that won't break at some point in it life :|

Really? Have you ever built your own PC?

Also, when you're trying to cram a PC with a high-end video card that runs hot into a compact environment (which a PC case most definitely is NOT), you're bound to run into heating/cooling issues, which are the dominant hardware failures in both 360 and PS3 units.

 

[androvsky]

I wouldn't say best. I would just say most popular.

I wish. A random few of some of the more popular games is more like it. No Final Fantasy collection is really bugging me...

 

[H_Prestige]

I wouldn't say best. I would just say most popular.

Maybe. But Konami is bringing over ZOE. I don't think that series is popular.

I wish. A random few of some of the more popular games is more like it. No Final Fantasy collection is really bugging me...

It's coming. It just makes too much damn sense. We already know they are looking into porting PSP games to the PS3. The idea of porting PS2 games has to occur to them.

 

[Gravijah]

I wish. A random few of some of the more popular games is more like it. No Final Fantasy collection is really bugging me...

Well, let's just say quite a few of my favorite PS2 games will never see an HD collection.

Maybe. But Konami is bringing over ZOE. I don't think that series is popular.

ZOE collection is a very nice exception.

 

[Lupin the Third]

I wish. A random few of some of the more popular games is more like it. No Final Fantasy collection is really bugging me...

IMO, it's Square's style to find a way to sell them separately instead of a pack of three (FF 10, 10-2, 12).

 

[Luckyman]

Yup, 30+ million ahead. It won the "race" ages ago.

Not so fast. PS2 still sells 5+ million a year.. X360 and PS3 will be on the market quite a bit longer game support than Wii

 

[H_Prestige]

IMO, it's Square's style to find a way to sell them separately instead of a pack of three (FF 10, 10-2, 12).

They can sell them separately through PSN can't they? I think that was the case for PoP collection.

 

[zero_suit]

Not so fast. PS2 still sells 5+ million a year.. X360 and PS3 will be on the market quite a bit longer game support than Wii

Yeah, but none of the consoles this gen are the PS2.

 

[alr1ght]

Still no USB port in the back?

Come on Sony. At least someone from the hardware team with a little taste for a clean set up must be asking himself why they are only having USB ports in the front. Their designers can't really be that ignorant.

now this I can agree with.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

I need another PS3. I missed out on that Gold Box deal this week, so I can wait for an official price drop later this summer or whenever.

 

[Tellaerin]

well of course, but that goes with everything. You still missed out on 4+ years of games.

The games are all still there. They're just a lot cheaper now. I wouldn't necessarily call that missing out.

I'll take more reliable hardware over no power brick

Why the hell is console hardware not reliable anyway? You'd think when they make the same box with the same parts millions of times, there would be no reason for hardware problems

Why do PC's with with different parts from different companies are so reliable and work perfectly together, but these companies can't make a box that won't break at some point in it life :|

I'm guessing it's because PC parts suppliers don't have to worry about balancing quality against cost the way console-makers do. With a console, you're trying to put together a system powerful enough to stay relevant for a few years (since the hardware's not upgradeable) and bring the total component cost down to the point where you're not losing a ton of money on each unit sold. (Though that may happen anyway, you're still going to do your best to minimize it.) So you're talking about a balancing act. Corners get cut to save on manufacturing costs, and that negatively impacts reliability. It sucks, but what can you do?

 

[Massa]

The games are all still there. They're just a lot cheaper now. I wouldn't necessarily call that missing out.

Right, but who has the time to catch up on 4 years of games with so many awesome new ones coming out? You're bound to miss a ton of stuff.

 

[BoobPhysics101]

Screw it, just bought a Black Ops slim bundle for $200 with $100 gift certificate and $40 worth of Albertsons gift certs.

 

[Smokey]

Here comes the price cut. Pricing only the same until Sony drops the price, which will be soon. August is my guess.

Are you drunk

 

[Alrus]

Goddammit Sony, now we still won't know who will win the generation. First it was 360 leading with a huge margin, then BOOM Wii out of nowhere to the lead, Sony dropping last, then 360 back to the lead with Kinect, Wii to last place, 360 heading for the win for good but now Sony re-emerges with staying power and superb value with cheap PS3

Most confusing generation ever

But the Wii is still first? And it's been leading european sales since the price drop too.

 

[Revolver]

Had you not you would never have gotten that sweet BC to begin with

Well, mine had partial BC. I got caught somewhere in-between. Not early enough for full BC and too early for more reliable hardware. I'm gonna miss that giant, energy sucking monster though. I got a lot of use out of it. Man, I've just had sucky luck this gen.