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New PS3 Slim model (CECH-3000B) cuts power consumption, weight, small cosmetic change
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I'll probably replace my launch 60GB with this one... I fucking hate that the quality of your PS3 was based on luck of the draw. I got one manufactured in China or whatever the bad place is, and it's so goddamn loud. As in, it tends to drowns out a lot of the dialogue when I'm watching a Blu-Ray. It's astounding, really.
Of course, I don't even use the PS3 for BDs anymore and there's nothing I'm interested in playing for... the foreseeable future, so I guess I really don't have to nab the newer model for a while still.
Of course, I don't even use the PS3 for BDs anymore and there's nothing I'm interested in playing for... the foreseeable future, so I guess I really don't have to nab the newer model for a while still.
ThanksVision
Member
-Winnie- said:
It really doesn't bother me personally. I bought the PS3 to play PS3 games, not games I've played before. Sure it would be nice but it's also very nice to see my favorite PS2 games get upscaled graphically and released onto one package.
soundscream
Member
As long as they keep releasing HD collections of popular old Games I wont miss my 60gig as muchKagari said:
TheBanditKing
Member
chubigans said:I like my LEDs. Why you take my LEDs Sony?
I think this might be a translation typo or something, I don't see the value in not having these. Still I think the main thing I am wondering is if they have finally engineered out the plastic case expansion pop/cracking noise when the system heats up and cools down. Also I would happily buy another if they would just give me the white one.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
krae_man said:
They need to add a USB in the back and 802.11n.
EvaTType01
Neo Member
if theres one improvement they can make, please have some usb ports at the back. that way, my camera doesnt take a space up front lol.
I 80 gig repaired died in 3 weeks >.>, thats it, im buying a slim, but after this news I will have to wait. This means not playing any new games coming out until....whenever.....
I 80 gig repaired died in 3 weeks >.>, thats it, im buying a slim, but after this news I will have to wait. This means not playing any new games coming out until....whenever.....
soundscream said:As long as they keep releasing HD collections of popular old Games I wont miss my 60gig as much
Yeaaah they're going to have to be at it for a loooong while until they've made HD collections of every good game from the PS2 library. ( i.e never gonna happen ).
I'm hereby proclaiming that backwards compatibility is going to be what makes or breaks the next-gen for me personally. The playstation brand would be, again for me , soo much more worth if ps4 could play ps1-3 games aswell. I cannot even imagine how much I would want that feature.
OldJadedGamer said:
Essentially these are the only things, save HW failure, that will get me to upgrade to a slim. My 750GB (non-BC) Phat continues to run flawlessly and silently.
I need a functional improvement before I move and fully expected it to come in the next HW revision. I'll keep waiting.
TheBanditKing
Member
Corky said:
For PS4, PS1 bc is a given (the store is not going to just wipe all those titles) and I feel the same for PS3 since PS4 will likely still have trophy data for games. Though I really just don't know if they will bother with PS2 for PS4, kind of like how WiiU doesn't play Gamecube.
I wonder how long it will take to see some better pictures of this revision though, I want to see if the casing changed at all.
Yoshiya said:
It really isn't too soon;
2007/10: CECHG - 65nm Cell
2009/08: CECH2000 - 45nm Cell
2011/06: CECH3000 - 32nm Cell?
PSU rating and weight is reduced by 13%, the only logical way they achieved that is with a die shrink.
Zombie James said:
CECH2000A = 120GB
CECH2000B = 250GB
CECH2100A = 120GB
CECH2100B = 250GB
CECH2500A = 160GB
CECH2500B = 320GB
CECH3000A = ???GB
CECH3000B = 320GB
If they release a 500GB model it will most likely be model number CECH3100B. It's possible CECH3000B never gets released outside of Japan, and they are just getting rid of their remaining 320GB HDDs with this revision. There's precedence for this before with the semi-backwards compatible PS3 initially released in Europe as CECHC with the old 60GB HDDs, and later released worldwide as CECHE with the new 80GB HDD.
Also, going by Sony's PS3 sales forecast for this fiscal year they only expect a slight increase in sales, so a $100 price cut seems unlikely. A $50 price cut would seem likelier.
Zombie James
Banned
BKK said:
What process is RSX on now?
Barrow Roll
Member
The fan on my old 60GB would turn on after like 10 minutes of doing anything and would just continue to get louder and louder. Watching a Blu-ray with the hum of a fan in the background really ruins quiet scenes.BocoDragon said:
Again, the fan on mine kicked in far too quickly. It was really annoying.H_Prestige said:
And now it's dead so I'm pretty bitter.
Barrow Roll said:
The fan on my 80GB would do the same. Seeing as how it was our only Blu-ray player we put up with it, but it did get annoying. The fan would also kick up when watching something off the HDD. Are the Slims really quiet in this regard? I keep reading they stay quiet but I also heard the same thing when I got my phat model.
test_account
XP-39C²
I think that PS2 backwards compability on PS4 will only happen if Sony makes it 100% through software emulation. I dont think that they will spend extra money on including PS2 hardware in the PS4 at least.
MesserWolf
Member
They are selling Ps2 remakes like ICo, GOW, Metal gear etc etc .... why would they want to invest in the BC ? especially this late in the gen.... Usually company use BC to retain consumers from 1 gen to the other, but that does little sense right now.
MesserWolf
Member
precisely-Winnie- said:
H_Prestige
Banned
They will if the system doesn't have bottlenecks like the ps3. Certainly hardware based BC is dead. Sony isn't going down that route again. I think ps1/2 will be emulated through software on ps4, which will be designed to be compatible with all ps3 software.TheBanditKing said:
The situation with Wii U and gamecube games isn't clear to me. Maybe the BD drive they're using doesn't load mini discs, or perhaps they see an issue with the different controller. Or maybe they have big plans to sell ported GC games on the VC and just don't want us to play our old GC discs on the Wii U. The first two issues are irrelevant for Sony regarding ps2 BC, and as for the third, Sony already has shown they have no issue letting us play old ps1 CDs on a ps3 while trying to sell as ps1 downloads on psn. I really do think the issue with no ps2 software BC on ps3 is only because Sony can't make an emulator with acceptable performance, not because of ps2 HD classics.
Hmm. I've been thinking of selling my 60GB with BC even thought I like and use the BC portion of it. I just hate how loud it is and living in constant fear of it yellow lighting. I wonder if I would have any luck selling it on eBay even though I've never sold anything on there before.
It's also scary knowing I would have to buy a new PS3 first before selling mine so I could data transfer. If I timed it right I could make a nice little profit though.
It's also scary knowing I would have to buy a new PS3 first before selling mine so I could data transfer. If I timed it right I could make a nice little profit though.
ThanksVision
Member
overcast said:
What are the specs on his system?
TheBranca18 said:
Huh? These are the most logical things to return. No way BC is coming back but more USB ports and/or the card reader is very possible.
My Launch 60gb PS3 is still going strong BTW. It's loud though and that's why I want a slim. I'll take more USB ports over the card reader. Card reader is a want, more then 2 USB ports is a need. They need to put at least 2 in the back too.
The_Player
Member
Emm, teh internet shared this pic to me. Is it any real?
The_Player
Member
Yep. So, is it official that it can't?Massa said:Are you referring to the mistranslation of "this system can't play PS2 software"?
Goldrusher
Member
You're forgetting a few...BKK said:
11/2006: 90nm Cell / 90nm RSX / 200-380 watt
10/2007: 65nm Cell / 90nm RSX / 160-280 watt
08/2008: 65nm Cell / 65nm RSX / 130-280 watt
09/2009: 45nm Cell / 65nm RSX / 100-250 watt (slim)
03/2010: 45nm Cell / 40nm RSX / 100-250 watt (slim)
06/2011: ...nm Cell / ...nm RSX / ....-.... watt (slim)
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Goldrusher said:
06/2011: 32nm Cell / 40nm RSX / ....-.... watt (slim)
At some point in 2012 when TSMC have got 28nm production online they will migrate RSX to 28nm, and possibly a new actually slim, PS3 slim.
http://pocketnews.cocolog-nifty.com/pkns/2011/06/ps3cech-3000b-8.html
power consumption test. it's pretty much same as before, 1-2watt difference.
power consumption test. it's pretty much same as before, 1-2watt difference.
googleplex
Member
Hmm... I would have bet money that they would have skipped a 32nm node shrink all together and when for a combined Cell/RSX at 28 nanometers.zomgbbqftw said:
zomgbbqftw
Banned
googleplex said:
Combined chip for PS3 isn't easy as it would be quite a large package and would require two different types of memory controller. 360 has unified memory and can have a single memory controller for both chips, so it is much easier.
Anyway, Sony will take every die shrink as soon as it becomes available, that is the nature of a business with such thin margins. The cost of an internal redesign is pretty minimal at this stage and when accommodating less power consuming chips it is relatively simple.
zomgbbqftw said:
The last rumor I heard was that Sony was going to skip a die shrink because the engineering to go smaller than 40nm is significant enough that it wasn't worth doing unless it was a more significant shrink. It's apparently due to the Rambus interface being wonky at sub-40nm sizes. And since shrinking the XDR connection is so much work, they'll probably just go ahead and combine the RSX and Cell while they're at it (especially since the Rambus shrink will probably make that a lot easier).
Zombie James
Banned
Kagari said:
http://pocketnews.cocolog-nifty.com/pkns/2011/06/ps3cech-3000b-8.html
Power savings seem pretty minimal.