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[Camjo-Z]

So Mawile might actually be usable now? Hopefully they give the new type to other useless Pokemon like Dunsparce and Luvdisc too. And I can see some crazy things happening with dual-type attacks.

In-game EV stuff also sounds neat. I don't bother with competitive battling anymore since I can never keep track of IVs and EVs and whatnot, but that might get me back into it.

 

[Cromat]

EV thing makes it sound very fake. That and the Fairy type advantage and immunity against Dragon looks like an attempt to specifically hype competitive players.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Rumor and the website link should be added. As pointed out, if the fire starter isn't fight/fire, it's fake FOREVER.

I can't post the website link or I will banned for linking to the blog/website that provided scans as well.

 

[UltimateIke]

Okay, bye guys. I've gotta go into hiding until the word is safe for a Dark/Fighting-type like me :'(

Just swap in a fire type! Arcanine can learn Iron Head too...

 

[Wichu]

Dual type moves could do some obscene damage

A dual ground + fighting move against a rock + steel type would do an unholy amount of damage

Fire/Flying Heat Wave against Dry Skin Paras. 10X DAMAGE MOTHERFUCKERS

 

[thecouncil]

Gogurt.

 

[ArchangelWest]

EVs = effort values, previously hidden values that boost a Pokémon's stats (not to be confused with Exp. and Eevee). It means in two hours, you can max out, say, your Pokémon's Attack stat.

It only takes about half an hour at the moment, so the minigames aren't particularly useful - being able to check the current value, on the other hand, will be.

While to people who've been EV training for years this may be useless, it seems to be the first serious attempt to specifically teach the importance of EV training by the Developers themselves. Tournaments are getting pretty popular now, and this could cause a lot more people to get 'serious'.

 

[Anteo]

No, EVs never reset. It used to be that the new EVs you earned weren't actually applied to your stats until you either leveled or deposited them into a PC (nowadays they're recalculated after every battle), but levels have never had any effect on adding or removing EVs.

Really? Does that works even if the pokemon is at level 100?

 

[KittenMaster]

While the idea of a Fairy Type is very enticing, I sincerely hope they don't got the route of dual-type moves... I feel like it would just be annoying and overcomplicated for the formula.

Like what happens if you use a Fire/Fighting move against a Ghost Type? Is the Ghost just immune? Does STAB stack if your Pokemon is Fire/Fighting? Because bleh, all of those things just sound awful to me.

They'll probably treat immunity the same way as if you hit a Pokemon with a move that's strong against one of its types but does no damage against its other type where the Immunity overrides the weakness, where the Ghost would be immune to the move in that example.

I am also going to predict that they'll treat it as if you hit with a single typed move, rather than stack the damage of the move's two types, because having much greater type coverage in a single move is already a huge boon. I don't know how STAB will be handled in the case of whether you have STAB of one of the move's type but not the other (would probably be best if it required you to have both of the move's types to even have STAB at all).

 

[Boss Doggie]

I wonder if Ubers will be countered with fairy types and Genesect (especially the movie-promo ExtremeSpeed/Shift Gear/Blaze Kick combo) and Reshiram would become popular again

Really? Does that works even if the pokemon is at level 100?

Yup. That's why you can EV train Arceus to be an ExtremeSpeed-killer.

 

[Fuu]

 

[Gonzo The Great]

EV thing makes it sound very fake. That and the Fairy type advantage and immunity against Dragon looks like an attempt to specifically hype competitive players.

Did you even read the thread? This must have been the luckiest guess in the history of human existence for it to be fake.

 

[ScraftyDevil]

Just swap in a fire type! Arcanine can learn Iron Head too...

I should EV train an Arcanine for express purpose of being my Scrafty's wingman. It would actually work pretty well :O

 

[FSLink]

EV thing makes it sound very fake. That and the Fairy type advantage and immunity against Dragon looks like an attempt to specifically hype competitive players.

This wouldn't be the first time they catered towards competitive players. Do you think most people who weren't into that stuff cared about the physical/special split in Gen 4? lol

 

[Dragoon En Regalia]

I'm all for giving Pokes like Clefairy a new type that removes their Normal weaknesses in exchange for weakness to Poison; maybe I'm speaking out my ass (I'd rather wait for someone involved in the competitive scene to elucidate), but making Poison more valuable would help a good deal. Weakening Dragon just seems unwarranted, however. And now that this rumor's less likely to happen, who knows!

Dual-type moves would make this game really complex, for better or worse.

 

[BassForever]

If dual type attacks were introduced I guess moves like fire punch and ice punch would be reclassified.

 

[Nekki]

You sure?

I know that lol just saying I'm betting there will be a dual type move for the starters if there are these moves.

What is a picture of the human genome doing in a pokemon thr-- oh.

Damn, I haven't followed this series for so long :X

 

[dakkumauji]

Another gen, another final grass starter evolution quad weak against something. ._.

 

[Boogiepop]

Assuming this is real (which seems pretty damn likely now), I'm going to go ahead and guess that any dual type moves introduced will be relegated to "this sounded cool prerelease but ended up being only a few super niche things" status, ala the pledges.

Oh, and the fairy type setup actually sounds pretty good. Kind of sad to see dark types get another weakness, but at least it knocks down fighting as well (which should in turn help dark).

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Hopefully WPM leaks more info from the source, he said he would if anything was confirmed.

 

[Kazerei]

Wow. "Fairy" sounded kind of lame IMO, but now I'm excited for how it's going to tweak gameplay and strategy.

 

[Gonzo The Great]

Alright, here are my predictions:

Cleffa: Normal -> Fairy
Clefairy: Normal -> Fairy
Clefable: Normal -> Fairy

Igglybuff: Normal -> Normal
Jigglypuff: Normal -> Normal/Fairy
Wigglytuff: Normal -> Normal/Fairy

Happiny: Normal -> Normal
Chansey: Normal -> Normal/Fairy
Blissey: Normal -> Normal/Fairy

Togepi: Normal -> Normal
Togetic: Normal/Flying -> Fairy/Flying
Togekiss: Normal/Flying -> Fairy/Flying

Snubbull: Normal -> Fairy
Granbull: Normal -> Fairy

Skitty: Normal -> Normal/Fairy
Delcatty: Normal -> Normal/Fairy

Mawile: Steel -> Steel/Fairy

Plusle: Electric -> Electric/Fairy
Minun: Electric -> Electric/Fairy

Snorunt: Ice -> Ice/Fairy
Glalie: Ice -> Ice/Fairy

Pachirisu: Electric -> Electric/Fairy

Cherubi: Grass -> Grass/Fairy
Cherrim: Grass -> Grass/Fairy

Audino: Normal -> Normal/Fairy

Cottonee: Grass -> Grass/Fairy
Whimsicott: Grass -> Grass/Fairy

 

[entremet]

Alright, here are my predictions:

Cleffa: Normal -> Fairy
Clefairy: Normal -> Fairy
Clefable: Normal -> Fairy

Igglybuff: Normal -> Normal
Jigglypuff: Normal -> Normal/Fairy
Wigglytuff: Normal -> Normal/Fairy

Happiny: Normal -> Normal
Chansey: Normal -> Normal/Fairy
Blissey: Normal -> Normal/Fairy

Togepi: Normal -> Normal
Togetic: Normal/Flying -> Fairy/Flying
Togekiss: Normal/Flying -> Fairy/Flying

Snubbull: Normal -> Fairy
Granbull: Normal -> Fairy

Skitty: Normal -> Normal/Fairy
Delcatty: Normal -> Normal/Fairy

Mawile: Steel -> Steel/Fairy

Plusle: Electric -> Electric/Fairy
Minun: Electric -> Electric/Fairy

Snorunt: Ice -> Ice/Fairy
Glalie: Ice -> Ice/Fairy

Pachirisu: Electric -> Electric/Fairy

Cherubi: Grass -> Grass/Fairy
Cherrim: Grass -> Grass/Fairy

Audino: Normal -> Normal/Fairy

Cottonee: Grass -> Grass/Fairy
Whimsicott: Grass -> Grass/Fairy

You're just looking at the Fairy Egg Group lol.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

A cool new type & something to use poison against?

Love it. <3

 

[TheSeks]

Yeah, I think Gen 5 is the last gen of Pokemon for me. I don't need Spoilertogofastertwo and the other one and these other changes, personally.

 

[dakkumauji]

I look forward to having things quad weak to poison!

 

[Gonzo The Great]

You're just looking at the Fairy Egg Group lol.

Nah, I left a few Pokemon alone, such as the Pikachu line.

Yeah, I think Gen 5 is the last gen of Pokemon for me. I don't need Spoilertogofastertwo and the other one and these other changes, personally.

What's wrong with the changes?

 

[Boss Doggie]

It's TheSeks

 

[CengizMan]

I forgot how much I like leaks like this. Makes every Pokémon generation/release so much fun.

 

[Wichu]

Alright, here are my predictions:

I'm going to go further with:

Latias: Dragon/Psychic -> Dragon/Fairy
Latios: Dragon/Psychic -> Dragon/Fairy

That's good.

 

[dakkumauji]

I'm going to go further with:

Latias: Dragon/Psychic -> Dragon/Fairy
Latios: Dragon/Psychic -> Dragon/Fairy

That's good.

So OP, I love it.

I wonder if they'll retype the legendaries as well, since Mew, Celebi, Jirachi and the such could easily be seen as part Fairy.

 

[Busaiku]

You're just looking at the Fairy Egg Group lol.

It's the best thing to do.

 

[entremet]

Fairy is gonna really shake up the tiers lol.

 

[tiggerkiddo]

Oh wow, they are finally trying to do a little something about dragons.

 

[QisTopTier]

If these weaknesses and stuff are true Fairy type is just the one typing the game needed to help balance out things.

Ice is still shit though

[You will be able to see a Pokemon's EVs at a certain in-game facility. You will be able to boost the EVs through mini-games. It will take about two hours to get one stat to max EVs.

THE FUCKING BEST

 

[Berordn]

Togekiss to rise from God tier to Transcendent tier?

I'm okay with that.

You will be able to see a Pokemon's EVs at a certain in-game facility. You will be able to boost the EVs through mini-games. It will take about two hours to get one stat to max EVs.

This sounds like such a reach that it's not even funny.

 

[AdawgDaFAB]

??? So they rather have the final starter Pokemon to take 4x damage from the one they are weak against?

The only 4x weakness in that any of them would have is Grass/Fighting's 4x to Flying. Everything else is 2x.

 

[hiryu64]

The professor's English name is Patrice.

Patrice

 

[Busaiku]

I don't get the point of wasting 2 hours to max EV, it's much easier to train.

 

[QisTopTier]

I don't get the point of wasting 2 hours to max EV, it's much easier to train.

It's to help ease casuals into it.

 

[leatherhat]

Does fire really need another weakness?

 

[dakkumauji]

Does fire really need another weakness?

?

According to the leak, it says Fire and Psychics will take half damage from Fairy attacks.

 

[Dr.Palutena]

Does fire really need another weakness?

The bullet point is copied wrong. It's suppose to say "fire and psychic take half damage from it"

 

[AdawgDaFAB]

None of these starter final types are new, however it's a really nice shakeup to have as starters. Plus, there are only a few Pokémon that fit those categories anyways:
- Water/Dark: Carvanha, Sharpedo, Crawdaunt.
- Grass/Fighting: Breloom, Virizion.
- Fire/Psychic: Zen Mode Darmanitan, Victini.

 

[leatherhat]

The bullet point is copied wrong. It's suppose to say "fire and psychic take half damage from it"

Oh ok- what about fighting? Half or SE?

 

[DocTarHeel]

Dual type moves could do some obscene damage

A dual ground + fighting move against a rock + steel type would do an unholy amount of damage

It's overkill though, since a strong Fighting type move is likely to OHKO anyway.

 

[entremet]

I don't get the point of wasting 2 hours to max EV, it's much easier to train.

I just don't like not being able to see my EVs. Kinda annoying.

None of these starter final types are new, however it's a really nice shakeup to have as starters. Plus, there are only a few Pokémon that fit those categories anyways:
- Water/Dark: Carvanha, Sharpedo, Crawdaunt.
- Grass/Fighting: Breloom, Virizion.
- Fire/Psychic: Zen Mode Darmanitan, Victini.

It's funny cause there were rumors of Psychic, Dark, Fighting starters for Gen V. It's cool how they still have their type advantages even with their secondary typing.

 

[Busaiku]

The balance of the 3 starters is kinda unfair now.
Unless they change Dark being immune.

 

[dakkumauji]

Oh ok- what about fighting? Half or SE?

So basically, according to the leak:
Fairies will be immune to Dragon attacks.

Fairies types will be weak to Poison and Steel attacks.

Fairy attacks will be strong against Fighting, Dragons and Dark.

Fairy attacks will be resisted by Fire and Psychic.

 

[QisTopTier]

So does this mean Blissy is top tier again?