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[ArchedThunder]

What's stopping him from releasing more information now then?

He said he would if it was confirmed, he's probably waiting till all the hype from the announcement dies down a little. Gotta keep the new official news on top.

 

[Exterminieren]

What's stopping him from releasing more information now then?

I'd guess he's wary of having Nintendo come down hard on him. All the major Pokémon fansites have seemed really twitchy about this sort of stuff since the whole Melkor business with Black and White's release.

 

[MechaX]

It already only takes an hour to finish EV training a Pokemon (aside from Defense). It's just that the stupid system is constantly hidden and refuses to communicate the actual numerical values to you.

Hold on hold on. I haven't delved too much into BW/BW ver 2, but you can fully EV train in an hour now?

 

[QisTopTier]

Hold on hold on. I haven't delved too much into BW/BW ver 2, but you can fully EV train in an hour now?

You could do it in about an hour in DPP :l

 

[Zeroth]

I'm having a hard time picturing legendaries such as Celebi and Jirachi being retyped. I can imagine many normal type pokemons will become Fairy, but legendaries seems a bit off.

 

[Daingurse]

Dragon Killer

Haha. He will be, that's hilarious. All I needed was an excuse to use Granbull.

 

[Flightmare]

You could do it in about an hour in DPP :l

With vitamins and pokerus it went a lot faster.

 

[Syph Medwes]

Still hoping it's fake. New type and retyping older pokemon just seems dumb.
Need to pickup a 3DS either way though.

 

[FSLink]

I'd guess he's wary of having Nintendo come down hard on him. All the major Pokémon fansites have seemed really twitchy about this sort of stuff since the whole Melkor business with Black and White's release.

From the Pokebeach forums:

I've been sent a lot of information but I don't think I want to make a ginormous post spoiling everything. If anything, I'll release it gradually. Or maybe not even at all. I'm not sure yet. It really depends on whether or not I think TPCi cares. For the card game, they obviously cared, but I think it's different when it comes to the games.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

Interesting. Glad we finally have a new type inbound.

I'd guess he's wary of having Nintendo come down hard on him. All the major Pokémon fansites have seemed really twitchy about this sort of stuff since the whole Melkor business with Black and White's release.

Probably this. I was reporting some JP4 news that was passed on to me to be shared on forums, and surprisingly Universal took notice. I could imagine owning a huge fan site would make it worse..

Still, hopefully his news hits since it was passed to him and he isn't the one leaking it per say.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Still hoping it's fake. New type and retyping older pokemon just seems dumb.
Need to pickup a 3DS either way though.

Gen 2 was dumb?

 

[MechaX]

You could do it in about an hour in DPP :l

If you got Pokerus, sure. I don't remember, but I don't think I had a good way of getting it back then.

 

[leatherhat]

I think my favorite part about this is that venasaur will be even better next gen with stab sludge bomb. Crobat will likely become OU too.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Thanks for the spoilers!

No Problem since you decided to enter the thread to see more information since I never spoiled anything but new type.

 

[Boss Doggie]

I really hope despite mini-games being there, you can still EV train.

 

[Kokonoe]

Wait, does that mean I can kill dragons with Jigglypuff now? (⌒▽&#8978

 

[Clefargle]

I made the mistake of reading this thread on the toilet. I inadvertently and mysteriously developed a hyperection. Then my weenie touched the lid and now I have to take a shower, a cold one... Thanks...

 

[Dion Blaster]

Continues to look like the best pokemon game in forever. Dual attacks is where shit is going to get real, this will open up attack creativity to an insane degree. Fairy type seems like it will really make a nice impact an matchups, and I'm glad EV training will be more streamlined.

I'll probably get a 3DS for this and LTTP 2.

 

[Big One]

I think you guys should see this: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f693/what-do-you-want-gen-6-a-117911/index178.html#post4710941

And this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/696959-pokemon-x/66054428?page=1 (Tai_Le_Ree's post)

 

[gosox333]

I think you guys should see this: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f693/what-do-you-want-gen-6-a-117911/index178.html#post4710941

Bahahaha and the plot thickens.

 

[Neiteio]

I think you guys should see this: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f693/what-do-you-want-gen-6-a-117911/index178.html#post4710941

And this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/696959-pokemon-x/66054428?page=1 (Tai_Le_Ree's post)

Holy shit. :O

Is that... is that our prophet?

 

[Busaiku]

Oh snap.

 

[RawkHawk2010]

If you edit a post on the Bulbagarden forums, does it leave a "Edited on _____" message or any other notice?

If not, well there you go. (Either way, someone hit up the Wayback Machine!)

 

[ScraftyDevil]

Bah; I need to rage-sleep before I get anymore worked up about this. Dark-type doesn't need another weakness; nor does Dragon need a hard counter. This'd better not be 100% legitimate...

 

[dakkumauji]

I'll start being skeptical if the next leaks have Draining Kiss and Belch.

 

[Big One]

The main site the dude frequents, which has the information predating those two posts: http://nintendopipeline.net/forum/topic/9729-pokemon-x-and-y-discussion-thread/?p=295988

It seems like he's going around forums posting the information with another person. MageLeif and Tai Le Ree are their names.

Edit: Seems the dude shut off the site for lurkers to view for now. Oh well. Basically copy and paste the rumors, but with April 5/6 timestamp.

 

[RagnarokX]

Fairy is a weird type.

It's like a nature/magic type, so weakness to poison and steel makes sense. Like a Fern Gully type, weak against bulldozers and smog. Being strong against dragon, dark, and fighting doesn't make much sense... is it because those things are "evil"? Psychic and fire taking half damage makes sense.

 

[Exeunt]

The Bulbagarden post was quoted by other users on April 15th, and there's a Google cache for it on May 2nd—I'd say it's legit.

This person sure has a strange way of leaking his or her information... If we assume that Water Pokémon Master was the first person contacted back in February, our leaker continued to make a random post on Bulbagarden forums one month ago disguised as speculation, then an "insider" post on GameFAQs a couple weeks later. But there's no sign of Parabolic Charge anywhere, when that was supposedly a tipoff for Water Pokémon Master, yet the other information he chose to share came up in the earlier posts; something is really weird here.

Or, as Big One says, there could be two leakers with the same set of information (or just multiple screennames). Strange stuff.

 

[dakkumauji]

The Bulbagarden post was quoted by other users on April 15th, and there's a Google cache for it on May 2nd—I'd say it's legit.

This person sure has a strange way of leaking his or her information... If we assume that Water Pokémon Master was the first person contacted back in February, our leaker continued to make a random post on Bulbagarden forums one month ago disguised as speculation, then an "insider" post on GameFAQs a couple weeks later. But there's no sign of Parabolic Charge anywhere, when that was supposedly a tipoff for Water Pokémon Master, yet the other information he chose to share came up in the earlier posts; something is really weird here.

Or, as Big One says, there could be two leakers with the same set of information (or just multiple screennames). Strange stuff.

It's not a named attack but it is on the list from Bulbagarden:

Mawile's type to change from Steel to Steel/Fairy
Dual-type attacks
A new electric attack that leeches health from the opponent
A new form of battling called "Sky Battles"
Mewtwo to get two new formes, and each forme is gained through an item in the two different games

 

[Thorakai]

Sucks that Fairy type will ruin the no weakness advantage of Spiritomb and Sableye.

 

[Exeunt]

It's not a named attack but it is on the list from Bulbagarden:

Ah, thanks. It wasn't in the GameFAQs post and I must've unconsciously skipped over it on Bulbagarden. It seems like what we're finding now was the "first batch" of information that Water Pokémon Master was talking about... presumably the leaker has acquired more between now and then. I wonder if it's shown up on the Internet somehow between February and today.

 

[Keyouta]

Well, I think I may have to go on my XY blackout a little earlier than I wanted to.

 

[Eteric Rice]

You will be able to see a Pokemon's EVs at a certain in-game facility. You will be able to boost the EVs through mini-games. It will take about two hours to get one stat to max EVs.

HNNG!

 

[Parfait]

My favorite pokemon getting some attention? Oh god yes.

 

[Little Green Yoda]

Hold on hold on. I haven't delved too much into BW/BW ver 2, but you can fully EV train in an hour now?

Five. Minutes.

Spoiler

as long as you have the right shops maxed out in your Join Avenue and have the Pokedollars to spare

No PKRS required.

 

[prwxv3]

Fletchling has penguin eyes

 

[Exeunt]

Five. Minutes.

Spoiler

as long as you have the right shops maxed out in your Join Avenue and have the Pokedollars to spare

No PKRS required.

Yeah, Join Avenue is a bit of a pain to set up properly though. Once you have the necessary shops, it's excellent, but there's a lot of setup required just to reach that point. Not sure how minigames would ultimately work in comparison, but they would likely involve more time spent in the long run.

 

[Izayoi]

My favorite pokemon getting some attention? Oh god yes.

My man. I really hope that it gets an evolution.

 

[RM8]

Please don't make Jiggs and Wiggs "Fairy". It's awful enough right now without being weak to poison. BTW, please buff Wigglytuff, it's about time.

 

[Hidden One]

Mawile <3

 

[Firestorm]

Please don't make Jiggs and Wiggs "Fairy". It's awful enough right now without being weak to poison. BTW, please buff Wigglytuff, it's about time.

Because being immune to Draco Meteor makes you useless.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Why would they be fairy types? They're living balloon creatures! They're not like the Clef lines.

 

[PK Gaming]

Bah; I need to rage-sleep before I get anymore worked up about this. Dark-type doesn't need another weakness; nor does Dragon need a hard counter. This'd better not be 100% legitimate...

we need to brave this storm together

 

[eternalb]

GameXplain just posted their analysis of the trailer and world map and it talks a bit about the Faiery pokemon--the new Eevee's even named after the damn things, apparently

http://youtu.be/UKKTqJ8R5nI

 

[backlot]

I think you guys should see this: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f693/what-do-you-want-gen-6-a-117911/index178.html#post4710941

And this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/696959-pokemon-x/66054428?page=1 (Tai_Le_Ree's post)

So Tai Le Ree has been posting on /vp/. I guess him and Mageleif are friends or something. But he says neither of them contacted Pokebeach. He also says he was not the source of the translated English names. Then he says that he swapped the grass and water starters second types in his gamefaqs post and that they're really grass/dark and water/fighting. WPM has now updated his original post on Pokebeach with those new typings. This whole thing is rather convoluted.

 

[Bulbagarden]

If you edit a post on the Bulbagarden forums, does it leave a "Edited on _____" message or any other notice?

If not, well there you go. (Either way, someone hit up the Wayback Machine!)

It does indeed leave that notice. We've got it set up so it leaves that notice even if a staff member edits the post.

For the record BTW...Mageleif is a name known to me. They run Nintendo Pipeline. Their profile there names them as a student at DigiPen.

 

[dakkumauji]

Man, regardless of which secondary typing grass will get, it'll still be quad weak against something. ;_;

 

[backlot]

It does indeed leave that notice. We've got it set up so it leaves that notice even if a staff member edits the post.

For the record BTW...Mageleif is a name known to me. They run Nintendo Pipeline. Their profile there names them as a student at DigiPen.

Has he tried to give you info in the past or something?

 

[Mush]

So instead of improving on the system they introduced with the Gen IV starters (gaining a super effective typing against the Mon they were weak against) they double the effectiveness of the starters typing vs. the Mon it is strongest against.

 

[Kokonoe]

I'm tired right now, but how many weaknesses would a Grass/Fire Pokemon have?

I know one would be flying.