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[googleplex]

Get what? Sony lost out on tons of money by shipping their system with a hard drive built in and then on top of that not selling their own hard drive only like their direct competitor did.

To be honest they're being pretty smart about this. Sell the unit at a relatively low price while recouping that money on accessories.

This.

The PS3 came with a hard drive standard, standard blue tooth, and usb. You could even use none Sony head sets and controllers. And Gamers didn't give a fuck and continued to buy overpriced Xbox hard drives and play, charge kits, and over priced Wiimotes.

No Sony learned well from their mistakes.

 

[badcrumble]

Remember when Sony launched the PS3 with standard internal storage on all SKUs, and totally in a totally nonproprietary medium so you could buy your own laptop hard drive and expand your PS3's storage capacity on day one?

Good times.

 

[Jarmel]

Do we even have a rough estimate for the size of a individual game. If I buy a 32 GB card, I want to be able to atleast fit 15 games on that bitch.

 

[dwu8991]

Oh, right, Sony is still playing the double priced proprietary flash memory format game. Lovely.

SONY are doomed.

 

[BlueTsunami]

Haha at memory card costs. The illusion of value with the body.

 

[Gravijah]

Also, why the fuck wouldn't you download games from the fantastic PSN store?

Maybe Amazon will let you pre-order DD games and give you 10 dollar gaming coupons.

A man can dream, right?

 

[antonz]

So it says 3-5 hour battery life when not using network. Is that saying if you play multiplayer etc you can expect worse battery life? If so there goes that COD will be everywhere arguement

 

[jj984jj]

Wait, I just realized, we will need this for PSP games on PSN as well won't we? And the pricey maximum is 32GB???

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Oh, right, Sony is still playing the double priced proprietary flash memory format game. Lovely.

Accessories have always been the way the console manufacturers recoup losses on the console itself. It's why controllers are always so incredibly expensive.

 

[FieryBalrog]

ugh that battery life is TERRIBLE - especially when you consider that's from the manufacturer = super optimistic. With wi-fi and/or power hungry games, you can bet you'll have 2.5 hours or so before you have to recharge.

Interest... waning...

My DS easily gets 10 hours

 

[lowrider007]

Some games will require a memory card to save. It says it right in the PDF in the OP.

damn!, I guess I'll go for an 8gb card then, that gets me a few PSP games on there, I've been using a 2gb stick on my PSP, at least I'll be able to have my Tetris Mini on there.

Still curious as to how many games will actually need a separate memory card to save onto.

 

[Unknown One]

I guess I'll get the 8 GB.

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

Fuck man. Hitting that $250 range seemed so amazing in June. This is how they will minimize losses.

 

[RebornYeti]

Why we still got memory cards?

 

[Deadly Joker]

I wonder how gigabytes Uncharted: Golden Abyss is going to be?

 

[jackdoe]

ugh that battery life is TERRIBLE

Interest... waning...

My DS easily gets 10 hours

We're in a new world man. Look at the 3DS battery life!

 

[Emitan]

ugh that battery life is TERRIBLE

Interest... waning...

My DS easily gets 10 hours

And the 3DS is using ancient tech. Amazing.

 

[googleplex]

I'm curious about this too as every previous Vita thread has stated you can save to the game cart and the memory card was only needed for downloadable games and totally optional.

You can, and you can also save DLC to the game cart.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

This.

The PS3 came with a hard drive standard, standard blue tooth, and usb. You could even use none Sony head sets and controllers. And Gamers didn't give a fuck and continued to buy overpriced Xbox hard drives and play, charge kits, and over priced Wiimotes.

No Sony learned well from their mistakes.

Gamers did care and have been complaining about it here on GAF for the last six years actually.

 

[Ydahs]

2GB would be nearly useless, psp games are already 1.5gb or so. Really a 4gb is useless as well. If you plan on having full games on here, 16gb or 32gb are the only options, anything less is not enough.

The issue is we can't just buy a 32GB SD card for very little.

Hope some 3rd party releases their own compatible memory card.

 

[duk]

no wonder vita is at $250, once said and done ur looking at $350

 

[lowrider007]

ugh that battery life is TERRIBLE - especially when you consider that's from the manufacturer = super optimistic. With wi-fi and/or power hungry games, you can bet you'll have 2.5 hours or so before you have to recharge.

Interest... waning...

My DS easily gets 10 hours

Don't ever buy a 3DS then, I get about 2 hours out of mine with 3D enabled in OOT.

 

[zoukka]

Do we even have a rough estimate for the size of a individual game. If I buy a 32 GB card, I want to be able to atleast fit 15 games on that bitch.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

This.

The PS3 came with a hard drive standard, standard blue tooth, and usb. You could even use none Sony head sets and controllers. And Gamers didn't give a fuck and continued to buy overpriced Xbox hard drives and play, charge kits, and over priced Wiimotes.

No Sony learned well from their mistakes.

This is the worst fucking rationalizing...

What the shit is wrong with you people?!

 

[FieryBalrog]

We're in a new world man. Look at the 3DS battery life!

And the 3DS is using ancient tech. Amazing.

Don't ever buy a 3DS then, I get about 2 hours out of mine with 3D enabled in OOT.

Wa-huh? Um, I have less than 0 interest in the 3DS right now, by 2013 when the 3DS non-fucked edition comes out hopefully that battery life will have improved.

I was on the other hand pretty keen on getting a Vita hence the comment.

 

[jackdoe]

Don't ever buy a 3DS then, I get about 2 hours out of mine with 3D enabled in OOT.

You're lowballing. I get 2 and a half hours out of mine, bordering on three.

 

[rollingstart]

<Reference: About Saving Game’s Saved Data>
Some PS Vita software titles may require the use of separately sold memory card for saving game’s saved data while some software titles are capable of saving it on to the PS Vita card itself.

w...wow

maybe you should have thought this through, Sony.

 

[Sarcasm]

it'll be less because they won't feel the short life was caused by a "useless feature" they don't want.

also what the heck do they mean by "portable charger" they have listed under accessories?

If your in USA I expect you to really not know, I really saw them in person upon moving to TW. But basically this (typically without the solar panels)

 

[Deku]

You can, and you can also save DLC to the game cart.

Unless its just DLC unlock keys, I can't imagine gamecards coming with anything more than the tiny bit of EEPROM that is also available to all DS and 3DS titles, basically enough to save settings and progress for most games.

DS used NAND flash and larger chips if a game needed more room to save.
3DS titles that needs more room saves to the SD card.

 

[Mailenstein]

So that 250€ price tag is kind of fake with these memory card prices and none bundled with the system.

 

[Unknown One]

Wa-huh? I have less than 0 interest in the 3DS right now, by 2013 when the 3DS non-fucked edition comes out hopefully that battery life will have improved.

Most likely a Vita revision would probably improve it as well. That's not going to stop me from getting the first though.

 

[dwu8991]

no wonder vita is at $250, once said and done ur looking at $350

I'm sure SONY will bundle a 2GB at launch, I don't expect them to be total misers ...

 

[linsivvi]

No seriously, what's going to happen 6 years from now when the next wave of handhelds come out?

Battery tech HAS to breakthrough at some point, right?

Battery tech is breaking through. It's just not advancing as fast as CPU and GPU tech.

Also, when given a choice between having a faster CPU or a longer battery life , manufacturers understandably always go for the faster CPU.

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

Don't ever buy a 3DS then, I get about 2 hours out of mine with 3D enabled in OOT.

Holy shit. How is that possible? I am assuming level 5 brightness and Wifi? I put several marathon session into OoT and never got less than 3

 

[Kyoufu]

32GB will do me fine for a while. Those prices are just rape though. Imagine how much a 64GB would cost.. :lol

 

[badcrumble]

This is the worst fucking rationalizing...

What the shit is wrong with you people?!

The PS3 lost so much money for Sony, not because it had a sparse lineup for its first year and was too expensive and was still selling at a loss, but because Sony was too consumer-friendly. Don't you see?

 

[Coloress_Kafka]

The yen to dollar doesn't stray to far with Sony right? So $25 $35 $60 and $100? I'll pick up the 16GB and just deal with transferring via PC.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

This is the worst fucking rationalizing...

What the shit is wrong with you people?!

Two wrongs make a right?

 

[Jarmel]

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Yea I know. I thought I heard somewhere that the average size of a V game is around 2GB.

 

[jackdoe]

Holy shit. How is that possible? I am assuming level 5 brightness and Wifi? I put several marathon session into OoT and never got less than 3

Yep. Highest brightness with WiFi still on (too lazy to turn it off haha) will lead to sub 3 hour play times.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

And you can't even change the goddamn battery.


:|

 

[Auto_aim1]

http://biggator5.net/images/George_Takei_LOLs.gif

Games will be 2-4GB, so you can fit around 15 games in a 32GB card.

Sony has revealed that the new game media for the NGP that will house all upcoming games will be between 2GB and 4GB in size, a portion of which will be reserved for game saves and patches.

 

[BlueTsunami]

About the battery life, 5 hours max? Is lower than some high end smartphones (that can go half a day at the most). That's no bueno.

And you can't even change the goddamn battery.


:|

Yikes.

 

[googleplex]

This is the worst fucking rationalizing...

What the shit is wrong with you people?!

I didn't say that I liked it or approved. Just that after the PS3 openness bit them in the ass, I can understanding the logic in the move.

What's the fuck is wrong with you?

 

[antonz]

I'm sure SONY will bundle a 2GB at launch, I don't expect them to be total misers ...

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[ReaperXL7]

Remember when Sony launched the PS3 with standard internal storage on all SKUs, and totally in a totally nonproprietary medium so you could buy your own laptop hard drive and expand your PS3's storage capacity on day one?

Good times.

remember when the PS3 was $600 dollars at launch, and everyone shed many tears over it?

Good times indeed.

 

[Man]

That's a huge launch lineup.

 

[Mailenstein]

And you can't even change the goddamn battery.


:|

Considering it was their hells gate to CFW, it kinda makes sense.

 

[jackdoe]

About the battery life, 5 hours max? Is lower than some high end smartphones (that can go half a day at the most). That's no bueno.

That depends on what you're using your smart phone for obviously (and the Vita has differing battery life depending on what you're doing with it). My shit Droid X's battery rapidly drains the minute I start using the internet or an actual game like Plants vs. Zombies.

 

[SEGAmaniaco]

about the vita's accessories

did they show a hdmi to tv cable?