Really? Looks exactly like Xenoblade combat to me.
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New 'X' trailer [Monolithsoft] shows uncut gameplay
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Really? Looks exactly like Xenoblade combat to me.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
When your playing it, you'll want the UI to be very visible (if Xenoblade is anything to go by).
You should.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I'm guessing it's structured more like PSO with Xenoblade's gameplay/world. But that's just based on what they've shown, hard to judge anything based on what they haven't shown.
Lot of people are making assumptions that Takahashi = massive story driven RPG, but I don't think that's necessarily true. Especially if Miyamoto got his grip on the game or something.
Surprised they showed a straight uncut video like that. Didn't play well at all.
Also disappointed that the combat appears to be taken straight from Xenoblade, right down to having to time the 'B Button' press when the circle contracts. I wasn't a huge fan of Xenoblade's combat, although the bulk of my complaints came from enemies with no AI that didn't force you to mix it up. So if they can increase AI it could work. That looked like a classically dull Xenoblade fight, though.
Still, my hype remains undiminished. I have total faith in Monolith.
Also disappointed that the combat appears to be taken straight from Xenoblade, right down to having to time the 'B Button' press when the circle contracts. I wasn't a huge fan of Xenoblade's combat, although the bulk of my complaints came from enemies with no AI that didn't force you to mix it up. So if they can increase AI it could work. That looked like a classically dull Xenoblade fight, though.
Still, my hype remains undiminished. I have total faith in Monolith.
The first quoted paragraph made me think you had played it, but confusion over the prompts almost feels like you didn't, so idk exactly what we're asking, but the prompts are, I guess, little QTEs that sometimes pop up for various things in Xenoblade (warning allies so they can dodge, reviving, etc). It just adds a little bit to combat. It didn't feel as intrusive in Xenoblade, though, but I think the UI is just... way too busy in this one.
Ricerocket
Member
Sorry I never played Xenoblades. Just calling it for what I see?
truestatic
Member
Yes.
That sounds really really bad for an RPG like this.
JimboJones
Member
Well some attacks in Xenoblade gave bonus damage depending where you hit the enemy like from the side or behind the enemy. Could be an expansion of that?
kuroneko0509
Member
Shall patiently waits for this
phosphor112
Banned
It's pretty disgusting. It would be nice to be able to see what's going on in the game...
It wasn't based on the skill used, though. It seems to be completely where you were hitting.
Looks like Xenoblade's combat. Which is not a bad thing as I love Xenoblade, but I wished they would have shown something a little more exciting. I finally want to know what this is actually about; come on, it's been a year since the first announcement! At least tell us if it's a single-player RPG or focused on online.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Yup, just think about the UI of a MOBA. The UI is incredibly important, removing any of it would make the game unplayable in Xenoblade. All of it disappears when out of battle in Xenoblade though.
I agree with that, Xenoblade had somewhat the same problem. Xenoblade had the excuse that the UI was designed with the low resolution in mind.
SoraanTribal
Member
I think that was just AI characters, no? If you look at the very beginning of the video when they are are running up to the monsters, the other 3 people stop right behind the main character all at the same time. So I'm pretty sure it's not human characters playing in that battle. Also after that first battle, the way the other characters ran back to their mech looked very much like it was programmed for that to happen.
Right? It's a mess as it is right now:
There are much better ways to send visual information without having half of what is honestly a good looking game hidden behind numbers and bars.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
When Iwata mentioned Xenoblade, I misheard him and thought he said Xenobreak. But now I actually really like that name. I hope this new game uses, and calls the mechs, Breakers.
Xenobreak
Xenobreak
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Honestly, the higher fidelity just makes it look kind of dumb. The relatively poor animation and lack of reactions/connectivity in the hits just stand out even more the better the overall visuals get.
With that said, I wasn't a huge fan of Xenoblade's combat. I'm still looking forward to X, but this was not an exciting piece of content to show. Barely looked like the monsters were fighting back.
With that said, I wasn't a huge fan of Xenoblade's combat. I'm still looking forward to X, but this was not an exciting piece of content to show. Barely looked like the monsters were fighting back.
JimboJones
Member
Guess some enemies could have weak spots to target could add some depth to the combat.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Was definitely hoping for something with more of an action RPG where your hits actually feel like they are connecting
No great succeeded here
No great succeeded here
I am baffled by the hype around this game. That footage looked like any number of Korean MMOs except that it's offline. Wait around until your guys' meters fill up so they attack the brain-dead enemies who don't react to any of your hit, and just keep waiting until they drop dead.
Someone explain the appeal of this game to me because I'm not seeing it. I admit to not caring about JRPGs in general, but the fever pitch around this game aroused my curiosity anyway. This is hands-down the least impressive Wii U exclusive Nintendo has currently announced, unless there's some layer here I'm missing. Is there some interesting story premise or something? I'm assuming there's some kind of hook that just wasn't shown in that footage.Someone set the record straight for me.
Someone explain the appeal of this game to me because I'm not seeing it. I admit to not caring about JRPGs in general, but the fever pitch around this game aroused my curiosity anyway. This is hands-down the least impressive Wii U exclusive Nintendo has currently announced, unless there's some layer here I'm missing. Is there some interesting story premise or something? I'm assuming there's some kind of hook that just wasn't shown in that footage.Someone set the record straight for me.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
The combat keeps you busy
but I doubt a regular monster will take this ing.
Its just a demonstration of the man and mech transition
The UI is actually not very big. The rough parts are the numbers on the enemies and the font for the numbers. And the giant letters flashing on the screen and the giant "SUCCESSFUL" on the screen. There has to be a better way.
The UI on the bottom and top left is pretty small honestly. I just don't like the design for it.
The UI on the bottom and top left is pretty small honestly. I just don't like the design for it.
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Deleted member 125677
Unconfirmed Member
Yes! Looks like a worthy sequel to Xenoblade
Solbringer
Member
You couldn't even see them properly with the numbers flying around and the camera panned out like that, so what's the point of saying they ain't memorable? We haven't seen the cast either.
Seriously, where do you people get this stuff...
Play Xenoblade, then come back to us.
hell i dont even mind the bars, even though i think they could maybe streamline the visuals a bit
but the numbers drowning the screen are just an abysmal design choice no matter how you slice it. i cant imagine anybody being able to justify that decision.
Seeing that gameplay didn't do anything for me. However, game looks good, and I'd probably enjoy it if I played it.
Xenoblade combat reminded me of an MMO. Felt kinda like hotbar combat, with position based attacks and cooldowns. Hell, it had auto attacking too.
Xenoblade combat reminded me of an MMO. Felt kinda like hotbar combat, with position based attacks and cooldowns. Hell, it had auto attacking too.
Not really, the character swings automatically and uses he's basic attack when you go near the enemy (in xenoblade), so why not just have that triggered by an button?
I just want them to show a better quest system and hopefully have a good second-half story. Something Xenoblade was extremely weak at.
Those numbers are really annoying, hopefully it's just test footage. Looks like a 2015 game, probably coming out in 2016 in Europe. Kind of annoying.
Those numbers are really annoying, hopefully it's just test footage. Looks like a 2015 game, probably coming out in 2016 in Europe. Kind of annoying.
bobbychalkers
Member
I don't see where the disappointment is coming from. We've known how it played since the reveal trailer. After rewatching it, it actually shows how much more depth the mech combat has.
On another note, am I seeing a dodge move or am I tripping? Really that can open up the battle system even more.
On another note, am I seeing a dodge move or am I tripping? Really that can open up the battle system even more.
The fever pitch comes from it being a successor to Xenoblade, a game that lots of people like. It's something you'd have to play to understand.
I haven't played Xenoblade and know basically nothing about it, so you'll have to explain to me what the appeal is.