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[VicViper]

The only new feature we really need is WPA encryption.

 

[DDayton]

The only new feature we really need is WPA encryption.

Which is the one feature you are most assuredly not going to get, as the entirety of the wifi code for the GAMES is located in each game's program. The best you can hope for is WPA for new DS online games.

 

[wsippel]

Which is the one feature you are most assuredly not going to get, as the entirety of the wifi code for the GAMES is located in each game's program. The best you can hope for is WPA for new DS online games.

It might be possible to intercept the call and load a different WLAN setup (with WPA support) from the DS firmware instead. I don't think it's likely, but it's probably not completely impossible.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Anybody asked David Yarnton about this yet?

 

[Caesar III]

Which is the one feature you are most assuredly not going to get, as the entirety of the wifi code for the GAMES is located in each game's program. The best you can hope for is WPA for new DS online games.

Are you sure about that? I've never set up a connection in animal crossing, mario kart or picross and they work flawless since I set up the connection in Tetris. So those information switched over to the other cartridges by lying next to each other?

AFAIK are the 3 settings stored in the DS itself. Otherwise the above situation is not explainable.

 

[splattergnome]

Are you sure about that? I've never set up a connection in animal crossing, mario kart or picross and they work flawless since I set up the connection in Tetris. So those information switched over to the other cartridges by lying next to each other?

AFAIK are the 3 settings stored in the DS itself. Otherwise the above situation is not explainable.

The actual wifi-settings are indeed saved onto the DS itself - however, the actual wifi-accessing code is hardwired on the cartridges themselves. The only way Nintendo could allow older games to use a different wifi network (or WPA encryption) would be to release new editions of the games reprogrammed to use WPA or whatever. A diverting hack as mentioned above would be technically possible, but this is Nintendo we are talking about, after all.

 

[Caesar III]

uhm, how are the games and the encryption related? The encryption is done hardware wise, right? So the game triggers "start connection 1" and the DS states "done". Then the game can use TCP/IP for communication, right? So it should be totally irrelevant for the game which encrytion the ds uses?

 

[Kafel]

Anybody asked David Yarnton about this yet?

:lol

 

[fse]

If this new DS news is true, I am so buying one.

 

[charlequin]

uhm, how are the games and the encryption related? The encryption is done hardware wise, right? So the game triggers "start connection 1" and the DS states "done".

No. Every individual DS game that utilizes the Wifi modes actually includes libraries to make use of the hardware directly; the only thing the DS itself handles is storing the connection information. There's no OS or hardware layer to abstract the connection process; each game handles it separately.

 

[Caesar III]

No. Every individual DS game that utilizes the Wifi modes actually includes libraries to make use of the hardware directly; the only thing the DS itself handles is storing the connection information. There's no OS or hardware layer to abstract the connection process; each game handles it separately.

okay...now that is stupid lol.

 

[NotWii]

No. Every individual DS game that utilizes the Wifi modes actually includes libraries to make use of the hardware directly; the only thing the DS itself handles is storing the connection information. There's no OS or hardware layer to abstract the connection process; each game handles it separately.

Classic Nintendo backwards logic

 

[Fatalah]

Is this a whole new platform, or just a sweetened up version of the current DS?

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Is this a whole new platform, or just a sweetened up version of the current DS?

The latter.

 

[Perdew]

Didn't see this posted:

http://kotaku.com/5056325/nintendo-new-ds-story-didnt-come-from-us

"The Nikkei newspaper wrote a recent story about a DS solely based upon their own research and speculation, without interviewing Nintendo. While Nintendo is always working on new hardware, we have not made any announcement about a DS and we cannot comment on the Nikkei story."

What's strange is that the original story (I had Ash check) never quotes any sources or in anyway indicates that the story is essentially rumor. The newspaper essentially reports it as fact. So I'm not sure what to make of this.

 

[optimiss]

I'd like it to look like this:

 

[FoneBone]

Didn't see this posted:

http://kotaku.com/5056325/nintendo-new-ds-story-didnt-come-from-us

Ah, Kotaku. Nintendo didn't use the word "rumor," and it's a classic PR non-denial denial.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

I'd like it to look like this:

Actually, I don't see why speakers should take place in the inferior screen; already filled with d-pad, buttons and touch screen.

Ah, Kotaku. Nintendo didn't use the word "rumor," and it's a classic PR non-denial denial.

A denial that don't deny anthing. A classic in journalism.

 

[Caaz]

Actually, I don't see why speakers should take place in the inferior screen; already filled with d-pad, buttons and touch screen.

And, you know, palms. Could be quite a problem...

 

[Yazuka]

I'd like it to look like this:

Good mockup. But you should move the speakers to the upper half.
Your hands would get in the way of them. Other than that, I thought it looked really good.

 

[KTallguy]

I'd like it to look like this:

Hot.

 

[charlequin]

That is pretty much your classic "no shit we're announcing a new product but that's TWO DAYS FROM NOW YOU JERK" non-denial, but it would be pretty hilarious if this turned out to be all bullshit. :lol

 

[ThatObviousUser]

I'd like it to look like this:

Eh I like this one better...

Simply because I'm a whore for tech that slides and swivels.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

That is pretty much your classic "no shit we're announcing a new product but that's TWO DAYS FROM NOW YOU JERK" non-denial, but it would be pretty hilarious if this turned out to be all bullshit. :lol

You know, even newspaper make mistakes. But I do think that's the point that's been reached is a "no turning back" point. Do you think that Nikkei would've risk its reputation like that without some decent sources? They're dumb if they did.
If this turn out to be false, some heads will rule out of Nikkei's!

 

[Stumpokapow]

I'd like it to look like this:

That's nice but the DS will never have unbalanced screens. All the book-orientation software is ambidextrous and needs to be able to be held with either hand comfortably.

 

[optimiss]

Has anybody seen this?

 

[evilromero]

I already own two DS'. Before I even considering buying a third I need some compelling software. It's been years since I've seen a strong effort from Nintendo on the software front.

 

[optimiss]

Eh I like this one better...

Simply because I'm a whore for tech that slides and swivels.

Oh yeah, I like that. That gets my vote!

 

[Fireblend]

Didn't see this posted:

http://kotaku.com/5056325/nintendo-new-ds-story-didnt-come-from-us

Yeah I remember when days before the DS Lite was announced, Nintendo was outright refusing the existence of any new model. :lol

 

[mentalfloss]

what the hell is going on in this thread

 

[Timo]

that looks like it iPhones side by side.

 

[Stumpokapow]

I already own two DS'. Before I even considering buying a third I need some compelling software. It's been years since I've seen a strong effort from Nintendo on the software front.

If it's really been years since you've seen a strong effort from Nintendo, then why did you buy two DSs? I mean, I can see someone looking at all of 2006 and 2007 and saying Nintendo's enormous amount of first-party high-quality titles are all junk, but I can't see that person then going ahead and buying two DSs.

 

[evilromero]

If it's really been years since you've seen a strong effort from Nintendo, then why did you buy two DSs? I mean, I can see someone looking at all of 2006 and 2007 and saying Nintendo's enormous amount of first-party high-quality titles are all junk, but I can't see that person then going ahead and buying two DSs.

The DS lite came out one year after the phat. Year two and three had a lot of great software. At the time it was well worth the upgrade.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

I already own two DS'. Before I even considering buying a third I need some compelling software. It's been years since I've seen a strong effort from Nintendo on the software front.

Actually, Rhythm tengoku and Band Bros. DX are developed by Nintendo.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

Has anybody seen this?

That's a horrible ps

 

[Wario64]

Glow in the dark buttons...really? That's not even necessary.

 

[Stumpokapow]

The DS lite came out one year after the phat. Year two and three had a lot of great software. At the time it was well worth the upgrade.

Ah right, so you meant "2008 has sucked for first-party software".

 

[-nk-]

Has anybody seen this?
http://i37.tinypic.com/sytj50.jpg

Bad fake, where's the camera?

 

[Threi]

you know what the DS needs?


some Neon Lights.


and maybe a flame decal right across the top of the case that would be sweet

 

[dacuk]

I'm a happy Phat owner. I don't feel the need to upgrade!

This

Spoiler

though gamecube compatibility WILL make me upgrade...

 

[comedy bomb]

This

Spoiler

though gamecube compatibility WILL make me upgrade...

LOL

Even if Nintendo ever comes out with a portable on par with the Gamecube, it'll never be disc based.

That would be awesome though

 

[Diablohead]

I gave my old original ds to by brother since i'm kind, and was going to buy a lite for PS0

 

[wsippel]

Some Japanese site released this image more than a week ago:

The display at the top is a 3" DS Lite display (the top screen), the one at the bottom is supposedly a 3.25" display to be used in a new DS revision. This image leaked(?) a week earlier than the Nikkei article, and the article only mentions a slightly bigger screen - no camera or music playback.

 

[Diablohead]

I'll still take a bigger screen

 

[Morts]

I still don't get the bigger screen thing, since games would still have to have borders in order to not be stretched and ugly, right?

 

[Caesar III]

I still don't get the bigger screen thing, since games would still have to have borders in order to not be stretched and ugly, right?

not if they use bigger "pixels"
If it is really only this 0.25" the stretch is not noticeable I think. This would mean like 0,01mm/px

 

[Diablohead]

I still don't get the bigger screen thing, since games would still have to have borders in order to not be stretched and ugly, right?

each pixel will be slightly bigger...

 

[wsippel]

I still don't get the bigger screen thing, since games would still have to have borders in order to not be stretched and ugly, right?

If the leak is real, we're only talking about an 8% increase in size at the same resolution. Sure, pixels would be slightly more visible, but I don't think it'll make games look much worse or anything.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

So anybody want to take a guess at what this version will be named?

 

[Linkhero1]

So anybody want to take a guess at what this version will be named?

Nintendo BS

Spoiler

(Big Screen)