The Faceless Master
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Nexus 10 |OT| Google's 10-inch tablet developed by Samsung
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$200 tablet vs $600 phone
Crimsonclaw111
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I haven't managed to purchase a tablet yet, but this will be my first. I'm gonna love this sexy beast.
But the Nexus 10 is a $400 tablet. I don't see why it wouldn't be impossible for a $250ish Nexus 7 with a 1080p screen.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
How does a desktop computer compare to a laptop? They are two very different uses. You can't compare them.
Image from The Verge review.
The Faceless Master
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i'm sure it will be possible, just not @ $200 in 2013.
The Faceless Master
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i remember seeing people talk about $300 and $330 and $350 and it took all of my power to no just straight up click reply, type "stop smoking fucking crack guys, it's $400 minimum" and then submit.
21st century cowboy
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After the reviews I am wavering as whether to get this or an iPad.
I'm mostly going to be using this for browsing. Do some of you actively not like browsing in a 15:10 screen or would you say it's just takes a little getting used to?
Also is Engadget's the only review to mention the contrast on the screen being poor? I haven't heard anyone else mention that.
I'm mostly going to be using this for browsing. Do some of you actively not like browsing in a 15:10 screen or would you say it's just takes a little getting used to?
Also is Engadget's the only review to mention the contrast on the screen being poor? I haven't heard anyone else mention that.
TerryLee81
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As an iPad owner, I'm really jealous of those front facing speakers.
I watch a lot of TV series in bed and always have to put one hand behind the speaker to make the sound actually audible. Or wearing headphones.
I watch a lot of TV series in bed and always have to put one hand behind the speaker to make the sound actually audible. Or wearing headphones.
How would you compare it to other tablets on the market? Which would you recommend over the Nexus 10? I guess ipad is the obvious answer, but I'm more interested in comparisons to other android tablets.
RedBullEnergy
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As someone who doesn't want any part of the Apple eco system I was hoping this would be the device for me and my tablet needs..... however, when there is only 2 pages about it on GAF you have to think the hype has failed and the device is terrible?! :/
I don't see any reason you'd want to get any other android tablet aside from wanting a keyboard dock, price, 3g/4g or design preferences.
Android tablets still lack tablet apps but that's less of a problem for 7". 10" Android tablets were never really popular in the market anyway.
Android tablets still lack tablet apps but that's less of a problem for 7". 10" Android tablets were never really popular in the market anyway.
That's a very unique thought process you have there
fluffydelusions
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I use my girlfriends iPad 3 for the same thing and yeah, I do the same thing as you lol. I hate the speaker placement on that thing.
The OT just went up last night. There are pages of hype and discussion about this in the announcement thread.
brain_stew
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What are you trying to prove with that link!? That it has the fastest GPU of any Android device on the market? How exactly does that make it "bad for gaming"!?
brain_stew
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Its by far and away the best Android tablet on the market. The lack of genuine tablet apps makes Android a poor platform for 10" tablets atm, but there's nothing to complain about the hardware that Google has delivered for the price.
outunderthestars
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This sums up my opinion on the matter. Looks like a great tablet for web browsing and netflix, but a poor tablet if you are interested in third party applications. It will be interesting to watch that change by next year as developers slowly embrace the platform.
SSGMUN10000
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Hey guys this might be my first tablet. Think its a good idea?
Domcorleone
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Im torn between this and the iPad 4. I got my girlfriend the mini a couple days ago, and part of me feels that it would be redundant to get the 4 when I can simply use any app i want on her mini. Also I love the OS for android much more. The reason I am unsure about getting the nexus 10 is simply for two reasons:
1. Resale value, android product tend to not sell well after a year whereas ipad products keep their value which means if I want to sell my tablet to get a better one im more likely to recoup my money with iPad not with the nexus.
2. Apps. I love Google music more than iTunes, I love the gmail app more than apples app, Google maps is better and the OS is simply much more tablet friendly. However, some apps Id love to use for artistic purposes on the iPad (garageband, beatmaker, procreate, fl studio, iPhoto, iMovie, script apps) dont seem to have a decent alternative on google play. I feel like id be buying this for web, netflix, hbogo, hulu and music.
decisions decisions, anyone care to help?
1. Resale value, android product tend to not sell well after a year whereas ipad products keep their value which means if I want to sell my tablet to get a better one im more likely to recoup my money with iPad not with the nexus.
2. Apps. I love Google music more than iTunes, I love the gmail app more than apples app, Google maps is better and the OS is simply much more tablet friendly. However, some apps Id love to use for artistic purposes on the iPad (garageband, beatmaker, procreate, fl studio, iPhoto, iMovie, script apps) dont seem to have a decent alternative on google play. I feel like id be buying this for web, netflix, hbogo, hulu and music.
decisions decisions, anyone care to help?
21st century cowboy
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Does anyone know how long it took HMV to stock to N7 after the official google play store release? I can save £25 if I get the N10 from them but I don't want to wait 3-4 to get it.
Delusibeta
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They took a while, from what I remember of the Nexus 7. That said, this time round Google seems to be on the ball, since both HMV and GAME are offering the new iteration of the Nexus 7 already. Time will tell, I guess.
Crimsonclaw111
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I'm guessing the Nexus 10 will be distributed better than the 7 because Google Play isn't taking preorders this time. I had also read Walmart was to be selling 32GB models.
Meh, we'll see.
Meh, we'll see.
I hope. If Walmart has the 32GB on day one, I'll get it there because I have a gift card that I need to use. If not, I'll go wherever the 32GB is sold.
Domcorleone
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I think Im going to go with the iPad 4 and then see how the nexus 10 fares, worst case, ill sell the 4 and grab the nexus 10 down the line. But man ill miss that OS.
What size is everyone getting? 100 bucks for an extra 16gb is a ridiculous premium but I feel I might regret it if I start running out of space on only 16gb...
Getting the smaller size WOULD leave some budget for accessories if they ever come out.
I really hope it's not a complete mess ordering from Play store like it was for the N7.
Getting the smaller size WOULD leave some budget for accessories if they ever come out.
I really hope it's not a complete mess ordering from Play store like it was for the N7.
outunderthestars
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What would you keep on your tablet?
You might be right about the current line of Nexus products. Since they are basically sold at cost or close to that the retail price should remain pretty much constant (with the exception of possible storage upgrades like with the Nexus 7).
However, the Galaxy Nexus didn't hold its value at all. Half a year after it launched you could buy it new for 60% of its original price. From that point on it was cheaper than the Galaxy S2 even though that one was originally 100 bucks cheaper than the Galaxy Nexus.
Image from The Verge review.
Resolutionary!
SquiddyCracker
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16GB. I'll use a MicroUSB adapter if I need more storage. Won't look too odd hanging around a 10" tablet.
Edit: This will be my setup if I can find the parts online: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shf0XUCuhAg&feature=g-hist
Found one of them:
Micro USB mini-reader: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-Micro-SD...Readers_USB_Host_Adapters&hash=item53efc9a35a
sweetvar26
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I am really considering this but I prefer the games and the sales on iOS.
Well iPad for now, but I doubt we'll see another Nexus 10 before the Microsoft Surface Pro is out with full Windows 8 Pro on it so there's that as well. I'm not sure if I'd recommend another Android tablet over this, but Engadget was saying they'd recommend people take a look at the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity TF700, though I'm not sure if they're really being fair. That's why I said we'll see.
To me the customization of Android and purposes of a 7"-8" tablet makes the Nexus 7 the best of its class right now, but I wouldn't say the same thing about the Nexus 10 because unlike the market for that size and price there's more competition here. Once I start thinking about what I will probably use a 10" tablet over a 7" for, other things start to become important to take under consideration for me personally, like the amount of apps available and what reviews and impressions are saying about the hardware. I don't mind paying more for a better value here.
The Engadget review had me looking at the Transformer Pad Infinity TF700, but they seem like the outlying opinion on that. More importantly, the software updates will be most timely on the N10; something I've been used to enjoying with my Xoom. I love having the most current Android build at all times.
BertramCooper
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The Transformer Pad Infinity definitely has a sleeker design, but that's the only advantage it has over the N10.
Engadget is full of shit.
Crimsonclaw111
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So much want. I'm probably gonna get 32GB just to future proof my purchase for when apps tailored at the high resolution start to come out.
Quick question: using roots or ROMs, it is possible to access Amazon Prime content on Android, right? I want to be able to watch all my media on that amazing display.
Quick question: using roots or ROMs, it is possible to access Amazon Prime content on Android, right? I want to be able to watch all my media on that amazing display.
Zombie James
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Does Netflix do 1080p streaming on tablets yet?
googleplex
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As a Galaxy Note 10.1 owner, I can tell you that those forward facing speakers are completely awesome.
I am in the same boat, all of the apps that I use are available in tablet versions on Android except for DirecTV and I have a Galaxy Nexus and use pretty much every Google service. I use my iPad a lot but almost exclusively for web browsing and I really enjoy Chrome on my phone and dislike how Safari is limited to only nine tabs.
Has anyone read a review that specifically talks about the web browsing experience in some detail or specifically compares the N10 Chrome experience to Safari?
Since there have been a lot of comments about the aspect ratio, here are a few thoughts on the relative tradeoffs of the Nexus 10 (16:10) versus the iPad (4:3) for common media consumption:
Web browsing - 16:10 is a pretty common aspect ratio for laptops and monitors made more than a few years ago, so you are probably already familiar with what it looks like. I think 4:3 is a better ratio for both portrait and landscape viewing, and there is also the issue that websites who have a tablet-specific site are going to be optimized around the iPad.
Reading books/PDFs - The standard US Letter (8.5 x 11") paper is just slightly less than 4:3, which means that most PDFs will fit better on 4:3 and books will look more natural in portrait mode. However, if you prefer to read in landscape mode with dual-page view, 16:10 aspect ratio is very similar to what you would get with two side-by-side Letter pages. For the international A4 standard, the aspect ratio is taller, giving no real advantage to either 4:3 or 16:10, as it falls between the two.
Reading comics - This is basically the reverse of the books discussion. Both US and Japanese comics usually have an aspect ratio of 1:1.5. This makes 16:10 a very good size for portrait reading. For dual-page reading in landscape mode, the ratio is perfect for 4:3.
Watching video - This one is pretty straight-forward. If you want to watch older TV shows, then 4:3 is perfect. If you want to watch movies or TV shows made within the last 5 years, 16:10 will be a lot better.
Games - In theory 16:10 is better for porting assets from games on consoles, but iOS has a better game scene currently, so that's kind of a wash.
Web browsing - 16:10 is a pretty common aspect ratio for laptops and monitors made more than a few years ago, so you are probably already familiar with what it looks like. I think 4:3 is a better ratio for both portrait and landscape viewing, and there is also the issue that websites who have a tablet-specific site are going to be optimized around the iPad.
Reading books/PDFs - The standard US Letter (8.5 x 11") paper is just slightly less than 4:3, which means that most PDFs will fit better on 4:3 and books will look more natural in portrait mode. However, if you prefer to read in landscape mode with dual-page view, 16:10 aspect ratio is very similar to what you would get with two side-by-side Letter pages. For the international A4 standard, the aspect ratio is taller, giving no real advantage to either 4:3 or 16:10, as it falls between the two.
Reading comics - This is basically the reverse of the books discussion. Both US and Japanese comics usually have an aspect ratio of 1:1.5. This makes 16:10 a very good size for portrait reading. For dual-page reading in landscape mode, the ratio is perfect for 4:3.
Watching video - This one is pretty straight-forward. If you want to watch older TV shows, then 4:3 is perfect. If you want to watch movies or TV shows made within the last 5 years, 16:10 will be a lot better.
Games - In theory 16:10 is better for porting assets from games on consoles, but iOS has a better game scene currently, so that's kind of a wash.
21st century cowboy
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Just been in the O2 shop and they have some good deals for people getting the Nexus 7 and an android phone. I wonder if they have any plans to do something similar with the N4 and N10.
Image from The Verge review.
I like how The Verge still claims the iPads screen is "best in class". The Verge seems fan-boyish some of their Pros and Cons are ridiculous
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