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[Pein]

Has anyone actually looked at Incarnate I'm seriously thinking of combing through both mangas at this point.

nick simmons rag isn't manga.

I hope his ass gets sued.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Wait a second guys, I think we all overlooked this one line:



So Nick Simmons is possessed by a poltergeist that forces him to steal other work! It's not his fault after all!


Also, one could say that he channels his energy to go BANKAI!

He seems to be possessed by the guy that did Bleach, so yea, I'll believe it.

 

[gdt]

nick simmons rag isn't manga.

I hope his ass gets sued.

It seems to have manga-like artwork so....isn't it manga?

 

[Pein]

It seems to have manga-like artwork so....isn't it manga?

Manga is japanese comics. Just because you can make shit look like bleach doesn't make it manga.

 

[Arcipello]

holy crap.... 900+ hate filled replies to his Deviantart journal http://letsleepinggodslie.deviantart.com/journal/27612942/#comments

suprised he hasnt simply deleted it yet:lol

 

[Alucrid]

It seems to have manga-like artwork so....isn't it manga?

It's not true manga from glorious nippon.

Spoiler

Okay, I have no clue what defines manga.

 

[Meier]

Odds are it's coincidence, since similarities like that do tend to happen.

Bleach is awful anyways, if anything they should be warning him about that fact.

Edit: All those images they say he copied? You can see ones just like them in hundreds of other anime, Manga, and various cartoon mediums. They're just reaching for a reason to hate on him.

Had to be quoted again because it's so ridiculous. Is this the kid who is on the Dr Pepper ads or a different son?

 

[Monocle]

His deviantart page
http://letsleepinggodslie.deviantart.com/journal/19856340/

Not that I mean to rag on the kid, but check out that gallery. Ouch.

 

[Aruarian Reflection]

It's not true manga from glorious nippon.

Spoiler

Okay, I have no clue what defines manga.

Manga by definition has to be in Japanese language I believe. Chinese "manga" is called manhua for example.

 

[gdt]

Manga is japanese comics. Just because you can make shit look like bleach doesn't make it manga.

Wait...so Manga refers to Japanese comics? Not a style of art?

So if a Japanese artist works in the western comics industry is it still manga?

 

[Ducarmel]

I hope he gets blacklisted from ever being published as a comic book artist.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Not that I mean to rag on the kid, but check out that gallery. Ouch.

"letsleepinggodslie":lol :lol :lol his smugness has no bounds.

 

[AstroMan]

I hope he gets blacklisted from ever being published as a comic book artist.

Gene Simmons will just start his own comic book company.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

It seems to have manga-like artwork so....isn't it manga?

No, it isn't manga.

Its magma.

 

[Jayge]

Oh holy fuck, he hasn't just copied from Bleach. Blatant stealing of a page from Deadman Wonderland with Crow... He apparently took Crocodile from One Piece and made him some bug monster... Various crap from Hellsing... He's going to get FUCKED.

 

[Hot Coldman]

I always thought defining manga was one of those 'you know what i'm talking about!' things. Hard to define, but you usually know when you see something whether it's manga or not.

 

[flawfuls]

It seems to have manga-like artwork so....isn't it manga?

I think manga is by definition Japanese. Its a normal comic.

 

[∀ Narayan]

Jesus this guy is unbelievable :lol

Actually, with the way society is going these days, I find this quite believable.

 

[John Dunbar]

only manga i've ever read is dragon ball, but if i'd have to choose, i'd rather read those color ones than those bleach ones. looks better.

 

[gdt]

I hope he gets blacklisted from ever being published as a comic book artist.

Honestly, this happens alot...though maybe not to this extent :lol .

His attitude certainly isn't helping...

 

[agrajag]

Wow, that is shameful :lol

 

[J.ceaz]

Looks like this guys steals from more than Bleach. (NSFW link, animated pr0n on site.)

The art from that manga isn't as egregious as it is with bleach. He could win a court case against that artwork, But the panels he stole from bleach are another thing. If he walks away from this unscathed I will not know what to say and will be utterly dissapointed.

 

[gdt]

I always thought defining manga was one of those 'you know what i'm talking about!' things. Hard to define, but you usually know when you see something whether it's manga or not.

Yeah, it's kind of a stupid designation.

Manga just seems to be the local name for "comics", I think.

So comics are all comics.

 

[Alucrid]

Manga by definition has to be in Japanese language I believe. Chinese "manga" is called manhua for example.

Oh...so if magna is translated what is it? Or, is translated manga named the same as "manga" created by westerners?

 

[Blackace]

Manga by definition has to be in Japanese language I believe. Chinese "manga" is called manhua for example.

That of course is gray area as well.. Because there are some non-Japanese comic artist and writers in Japan who don't get to be manga artist despite their work coming from Japan and being in Japanese..

 

[Schmitty]

"I will ask Facebook not to press any charges against you if you give me a sincere apology here in this thread. Please do so. Facebook keeps all your IP addresses and info... so they will suspend your account if I do not receive proper apologies."

:lol :lol

How can anyone take this guy seriously?

 

[Raide]

There is a clear difference between someone using Anime/Manga character styling and someone using tracing paper to 99% copy an art style and even the overall comic layout.

Most Anime/Manga are going to have certain similarities, since that is what defines Anime/Manga apart from other comics, but straight ripping something is asking for trouble.

Fan Art = Yes

Trying to make your own comic and make loads of cash while coping someone elses work = Get Sued.

Anyone who cannot see that this is a blatant rip is utterly blind. :lol

If the kid is actually drawing the copied images, then he has some talent and should work on some original ideas. He just need to find his own stuff and not rip Bleach.

 

[Pein]

Wait...so Manga refers to Japanese comics? Not a style of art?

So if a Japanese artist works in the western comics industry is it still manga?

There is no set art style for manga, just check berserk or gantz.

It would be a comic because it would be made here. I wouldn't tell Jim lee that he makes manwha because he's korean.

 

[Subterranean]

I always knew he was a douche bag after watching the Simmon's show on A&E, but this takes it to a whole other level.

 

[gdt]

But Berserk is something I consider a "comic" while something like One Piece is a "manga."

It's a meaningless term.

 

[Gintoki]

Listening to: Buy it now.
Reading: Buy it now.
Watching: Buy it now.
Playing: Buy it now.
Eating: Buy it now.
Drinking: Buy it nao.

what the...

 

[John Dunbar]

is there anything except for manga and anime that change names based on the geographical location of their creation? swedish meatballs?

 

[Dram]

 

[diunxx]

They both look horrible, but did he still story elements or something important like that or are retarded weebos up in arms because characters have the same pose in some panels?

 

[Arcipello]

oh yes, what are the chances that this wont be happening now :lol

 

[Kagari]

What an idiot.

 

[Xater]

But Berserk is something I consider a "comic" while something like One Piece is a "manga."

It's a meaningless term.

Berserk is manga. For westerners I think mangas are comics from Japan. And even that is stupid. Manga dosn't mean anything else than comic right?

 

[Kreed]

"Okay.. now looking at some of these photo comparisons, I can see why a few people are up-in-arms. I can tell you right now these are all purely coincidences. I never even heard of Bleach! Who would name a comic after laundry detergent? When I channel my energy when drawing my book sometimes I can pull stuff in that I never seen before. It's like i'm possessed when I start thinking and drawing. Perhaps I just got on the same wave length that all artists share. My dad just called and said I have a real case against all this slander. If Facebook doesn't give into my demands soon there's going to be hell to pay. Now, I have to damage control on another site - more people being mislead. Now I have to deal with this and my book's deadline. I'm not sure how I can think and draw under all this pressure."

This whole quote could have been bolded. :lol

 

[Blackace]

They both look the horrible, but did he still story elements or something important like that or are retarded weebos up in arms because characters have the same pose in some panels?

stealing exact layout designs is what got rob liefeld is so much trouble.. so it isn't a weeboo thing at all.

 

[flawfuls]

But Berserk is something I consider a "comic" while something like One Piece is a "manga."

It's a meaningless term.

Well then you would be wrong, both berserk and one piece are manga. A manga is something published in Japan as a manga, its not really something up for debate.

 

[gdt]

Berserk is manga. For westerners I think mangas are comics from Japan. And even that is stupid. Manga dosn't mean anything else than comic right?

That's what I'm saying. The term is meaningless.

Edit:

Just means comic books in Japan, I think.

They're comic books.

 

[FreedomFrisbee]

They both look the horrible, but did he still story elements or something important like that or are retarded weebos up in arms because characters have the same pose in some panels?

Actually, there's a specific set of panes copy exact lines right from Bleach. There's dozens more panels that aren't posted in the OP that have been scrutinized.

I had heard about this, and really can't believe he's denying something so obvious. He shoulda just stayed quiet rather than embarrass himself.

Wonder what daddy has to say about this.

Also, what is a 'childless accusation'?

 

[Blackace]

That's what I'm saying. The term is meaningless.

Japan itself has a very strict take on what is manga and what isn't. So the term is important for some stooges in the government..

 

[Xater]

Japan itself has a very strict take on what is manga and what isn't. So the term is important for some stooges in the government..

Ok now I'm interested. I thought that in Japanese you would also call a western comic manga because that's the term for it. I thought the same about anime.

 

[Fireye]

There are some images on the LJ thread (which I've been following for a couple days) that are really stretching. But others... it's very obvious that character designs, poses, and panels have been traced. I hope the publisher recalls the comic, and maybe Nick will get a clue and either stick to the story writing or artwork - because it doesn't seem like he can handle both.

Below: incarnate (left) and deviantart original art (right)

incarnate overlaid on bleach:

 

[karasu]

They both look horrible, but did he still story elements or something important like that or are retarded weebos up in arms because characters have the same pose in some panels?

It's a visual medium, dude. The visuals are important. You aren't above it all. You're just ignorant.

 

[Blackace]

Ok now I'm interested. I thought that in Japanese you would also call a western comic manga because that's the term for it. I thought the same about anime.

nope you call it a komikku

 

[equap]

his sister is hot though...

 

[DonMigs85]

If he just insists it's a parody, maybe he can get away with it.
But man, he sucks as a creative artist if he can't even come up with his own unique character designs.

 

[FleckSplat]

"childless accusations"