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NieR Automata New Famitsu Information: Skirt Can Be Removed!?
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Fine Ham Abounds
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I don't think there's cognitive dissonance in accepting this as both indefensible pandering cheesecake and playful shenanigans. This is a guy who does interviews in a mask and pretends to pick and eat boogers from it.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
So ... I see that there's going to be some pretty big enemies in the game ...
I'm not really into the whole fan-service thing, so I'm a bit sad. But I hope it sells well, so we can get another Nier game. I always regretted never being able to play the original.
Then i urge you to play the origina, for one thing because its my and many other peoples GOAT for good reason, and so you learnt that "Fan-Service" in a Yoko Taro game doesnt nessecarily mean what you think it means.
It was literally you who proved that its not, lol.
Well, shes actually an android and not a robot. That my sound like arguing semantics, but its going to a very important distinction in this game.
SoraNoKuni
Member
preorder when live
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
At this point I couldn't really care less about the story and combat system, or even anything like how many weapons or outfits it has. I'm not worried about either. It's Platinum, so the combat is guaranteed to be satisfying. Story will be as it is; my gut says it'll be very much it's own thing and not live up to Nier for many fans, but it'll still be a Yoko story through and through and that's the main thing. Otherwise I don't really want to know much about the narrative or characters; I'd rather digest it with a clean slate and no expectations.
What I do want to hear about, to adjust my expectations, is the overall game structure and pacing. Nier was very similar to Zelda, and even though Yoko has claimed he's gotten something similar out of this I'm still expecting it to lean more on Platinum's game design over Zelda-with-Platinum-combat. So I'd like to see/know exactly how much adventuring and questing we'll do versus scripted encounters, and then I'm set until release.
What I do want to hear about, to adjust my expectations, is the overall game structure and pacing. Nier was very similar to Zelda, and even though Yoko has claimed he's gotten something similar out of this I'm still expecting it to lean more on Platinum's game design over Zelda-with-Platinum-combat. So I'd like to see/know exactly how much adventuring and questing we'll do versus scripted encounters, and then I'm set until release.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Every NieR fan and Vita owner rejoiced.
#BasedMoonMan
Newsflash: no. Some of us are gay and if we're going down the creepy route I'd rather have a hot android dude that is a Henry Cavill look alike. So panty flashing only makes me roll my eyes.
It's been up on Amazon for months.
That's going to be critical as well. We already know they're going for the Zelda-like structure again to some degree; and that some genre homages have been confirmed already, but the larger game design is still unknown. I'm interested to see how sidequests are handled as well, since the world seems to be mostly desolate - going by the Yorha play; you might receive optional objectives from your commanders on the moon, as well as picking up sidequests in person from any remaining rebel androids on the surface. Though hopefully they're a little less grindy this time - and the reward of more conversations with Pod doesn't seem like quite as appealing a reward as more dialogue with Weiss...
Considering her sex (or lack thereof) isn't confirmed, you could use either at this point.
Okay, that's what you want. You're not making the game, and the game isn't intended to cater to your tastes specifically.
LouisaFerre
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I'm pretty sure you're taking the post you're replying to just a liiiiittle too seriously.
Space Medafighter X
Member
More main characters but a happy ending?... I don't believe it!
You completely missed the point of my reply. In any case, I can still enjoy the game even though something specific about it isn't geared towards me. There's more to a game than whoring out the main character.
I did, but I wanted to make a stand amid all the giggling hormone induced creepiness about a android girl look alike. Does she look like 18 or 12? I don't even care! I won't look at her that way. I'm more interested in her combat moves that look like crazy dance moves!
Ah, well either way, it's still cool. #TeamMechGirls
LouisaFerre
Member
Making a stand? I don't mean to be an asshole but I think you're taking yourself and this entire discussion a little too seriously, as well. Saying this stuff doesn't appeal to you doesn't really do anything to the people you're talking about, outside of letting them know that other people like different things, which I'm 100% sure there they're already aware of.
Pinko Marx
Banned
I'm glad someone from the industry finally called Yoshida out for his thigh fetishes.
You weren't. I can take criticism. But the obvious pandering through oversexualisation of young females that walks the fine line between too young/just barely legal pisses me off. And in gaming it's too frequent. Japan loves it I know and Yoko Taro might be great at making interesting games, but it doesn't excuse me him from also going down that route. I'm not writing the game off on just an interview and a small detail, but it raises red flags. Anyway, the story/plot is sure to also touch upon those issues so we'll see how it goes. If it doesn't, he's clueless.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
This is the game we deserve.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
This.
Pants no pants, lust no lust, creep no creep, 1000 year old demon or 12 year old lolita.
On an actual serious note I'm going to remain on story blackouts (though I'll watch trailers as I'm the person who doesn't remember the details of trailers by the time I play the game/watch the film) but I'd love to know more about the music. The last trailer was about the female choir doing that traditional screech-like noise. I'm very curious what kind of sounds the game will lean on. Nier 1 was all about female vocals (and small male child) for the most part. And the one main theme that was used in many of the pieces. Even if the game fails I'm still excited for the music that will accompany it maybe more so.
On an actual serious note I'm going to remain on story blackouts (though I'll watch trailers as I'm the person who doesn't remember the details of trailers by the time I play the game/watch the film) but I'd love to know more about the music. The last trailer was about the female choir doing that traditional screech-like noise. I'm very curious what kind of sounds the game will lean on. Nier 1 was all about female vocals (and small male child) for the most part. And the one main theme that was used in many of the pieces. Even if the game fails I'm still excited for the music that will accompany it maybe more so.
zxcv11223300xi
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I really enjoy reading yoko's interview.
He is very interesting.
He is very interesting.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
An interview full of details and this is what you choose to pull out and magnify? I'm suprised you didn't make a thread out of that "Yu Suzuki can't promise 60 fps but can promise sexy girls" article.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
and disappoint the animu girl fanbase? That's a big part of the potential sales right there.
this was originally pitched as a Vita game, remember
I honestly don't think 2B looks like she's walking the fine line between too young/barely legal.
I haven't read all the interviews so maybe there's something that hints at that being a thing but I legit think she looks like an adult [or at least an human adult-styled android].
LordGorchnik
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Japanese sales would flop.
Hell they will probably flop anyway. I don't think NIER did especially well over there.
No, it wasnt.
The first Nier did pretty well in Japan actually.
But that wouldn't be crazy at all
The Silver
Member
He keeps saying they'll be a happy ending, what kind of fucked up shit is he planning?
Though there was that port of the first game to the Vita that was pitched and cancelled...
Regardless, it doesn't have any bearing on Automata.
It might not be an actual lie, as such - with Nier, his wording was that "the ending itself is happy, but I make no guarantees on what comes after.". So everyone will probably be doomed to live miserable and short lives which either achieve nothing or make the world significantly worse; but they'll also have some small moment of resolution in the end.
This really isn't that out of the ordinary for him. 2B's outfit is much less revealing than most of the ones in his earlier works like his Tactics Ogre contributions (and even the FFXII cast); with Vagrant Story being full of bikini armour.
Sumio Mondo
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If somebody can get Matsuno to actually make video games again instead of play FF14 then maybe, just maybe, we shall see Yoshida do more of that kind of art again. Still, I'd hold off on saying the art is generic pandering smut until we see some other characters first.
Well his work on bravely default was questionable as well. That concept art of Agnes in a swimsuit looked like a toddler in a swimsuit, it was kinda creepy. It's just hard to believe it's the same guy who did all the FFXII artwork.
SliceSabre
Banned
Bringing up the apparent age of a android in regards to sexual things seems like the dumbest fucking kind of argument in the world.
Make an android that looks like a hot middle-age woman. Now what do you say when I say that android was made 3 months ago in story? Oh shit now everybody looks silly.
Make an android that looks like a hot middle-age woman. Now what do you say when I say that android was made 3 months ago in story? Oh shit now everybody looks silly.
He's never been known to shy away from thighs. It's been his trademark for decades.
I wouldn't mind that, but I'm not a fan of wasting every DLC with fanservice callbacks, I'd rather have more interesting outfits designed for Yorha 2B specifically, rather than someone else's costume.
Yeah... That's a bit disappointing. I get not wanting to just make Weiss 2.0, it would indeed feel cheap, but I'm not sold on Pod yet.
I guess I'll have to wait and see in the full game, not watching the next trailer they have for Spring.
No it wasn't. They were considering porting NieR to the Vita, but didn't work out. That was before this game was a thing.
His art is incredible, I love his FFXIV designs. I don't think Automata's art so far is so different from his usual stuff.
So damn good. Hopefully he'll be back for FFXVI.
Sumio Mondo
Member
Thinking on it, it would be kinda weird for the game to be called "Nier" without the man himself (in either form) to make any kind of appearance.
Aside from Agnes's chibi design, the designs in BD were fine. Easily my least favourite of his works though.
Aside from Agnes's chibi design, the designs in BD were fine. Easily my least favourite of his works though.
I mean I think this main character (though maybe not the only one according to the interview?) looks really good and has me interested in those other designs. Emil, Kaine were very distinguished from other games of that generation (though by another designer).
2B is like a mix between Drakengard 3 MC and Kaine.
2B is like a mix between Drakengard 3 MC and Kaine.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Im pro thigh.