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Nintendo Banning YouTube Livestreams as Part of Nintendo Creators Program
- Thread starter Tom Nook Sawyer
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Why no mixer? That low latency stream chat experience! lol
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
oh, so it only affects those who registered their whole channel?
this needs to be added to the OP. several people probably only register individual videos and wouldn't be affected in the same way if they do non-Nintendo content.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
If it were Microsoft or Sony, maybe. In Nintendo's case though, who knows. If they had done it sans any PDP controversy my reaction would be no more surprised.
Mushroomer25
Member
It involves jumping to the conclusion that this announcement is tantamount to Nintendo saying their games cannot be livestreamed. That Nintendo saw the PDP situation, and decided livestreams as a platform aren't safe for their brand. Considering a lot of advertising partners for YouTube seem to feel the same way, it would not be unheard of.
Which isn't what this is. So far, all this is is an indication that Nintendo doesn't want their partners streaming games on YouTube from accounts that take part in their revenue share platform. That change could be due to any number of factors.
Considering this isn't even a public statement (rather an update made to the ToS at midnight on a Thursday), it's difficult to say exactly what this means. But I can't blame people for assuming the worst when it comes to Nintendo and modern internet culture.
If this is indicative of a larger policy shift (as the doomsayers insist) - we'll hear more tomorrow.
VichoCardenas
Banned
Holy crap, all this hassle just to monetize some videos for Nintendo to get a cut on them? Wow.
The Last One
Member
Not saying Nintendo is right in doing this, but some Youtubers are definitely not helping spreading racist bullshit in their videos.
jediyoshi
Member
As far as Nintendo is concerned, the public at large including you, is in the same boat.
Yep.
Imagine you're a hyper conservative Japanese company like Nintendo, dipping its toes into revenue sharing with YouTube streamers, a group of people honestly you probably don't really understand and who are extremely nascent as entertainers.
Then the most mainstream, most high profile, most widely recognised YouTuber, ostensibly the one who should have the most media training, the most experience, the most to lose financially, lets fly with pretty much the most heinous racial slur in the English language.
Fuck yeah that company would stop any of the people they revenue share with going in front of a live camera with their games.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Yep, that's 100% a PDP reaction.
Why is this a bad thing? Can someone clarify? I'm not the biggest social gamer what ever that means. Didn't even buy Destiny 2. I prefer the Horizons and TLOU and Uncharted's which can often get ruined by Youtuber's and leaks.
Are livestreams to be expected and are they integral to a games success? I don't personally see anything wrong it's their creation/property right?
Just looking to learn more.
Are livestreams to be expected and are they integral to a games success? I don't personally see anything wrong it's their creation/property right?
Just looking to learn more.
ramoisdead
Member
Thanks a lot, PewDieShit. Bad enough Nintendo doesn't want any content created using their IP unless you let them muscle you out of some of your profits, now they are putting out more of a strong-arm towards streamers and uploaders.
SinCityAssassin
Member
It's bad because it used to be allowed and now it isn't.
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
One step forward, two steps back.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
Cool. Now consider how it might bother other people
Hint: Imagine if it applied to Twitch too
"gaming heating moment"
Let's see if others will follow after that guy making it even harder for everyone.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
ATLUS, Nintendo... What the hell is going on.
?? why? japan is pretty close minded when it touch to religion, race, nazi stuff.
Just like The Great Attorney
SinCityAssassin
Member
Jokes on you because they already took down Devil's Third's segmented multiplayer from Steam.
?? why? japan is pretty close minded when it touch to religion, race, nazi stuff.
Just like The Great Attorney
Sure, but are they ever in the context of what these kinds of streamers do or is it in a controlled, contextual way.
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Deleted member 10571
Unconfirmed Member
Um, PewDiePie ist going on. Did you not pay any attention at all? There's gonna be more I'm sure.
?? why? japan is pretty close minded when it touch to religion, race, nazi stuff.
Just like The Great Attorney
They don't want controversy.
While this is shit. It was bound to happen.
When youtube and our own community fail to police the worst. These companies are going to take matters into their own hands.
How many times in the PDP threads have many of us said he's going to fuck it up for everyone else? Hell a lot of small streamers came out against him really only because they knew it would fuck up their money. Now here we are.
When youtube and our own community fail to police the worst. These companies are going to take matters into their own hands.
How many times in the PDP threads have many of us said he's going to fuck it up for everyone else? Hell a lot of small streamers came out against him really only because they knew it would fuck up their money. Now here we are.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Am I the only one who initially thought this meant you couldn't livestream Nintendo games? Because as this reads, they're actually saying you cannot livestream on an account as a Nintendo creator, full stop. You can't create a video about Zelda and then also livestream Horizon. In effect, they're controlling ALL the content you make, not just theirs. Wow.
TurtleSnatcher
Member
I think they just wont let you monetize if you livestream Nintendo content and if you are part of the creators program.
They will if you break off and do it manually and update them each time a video is uploaded via submission (as long as it doesnt break guidelines aka racist nonsense etc)
Nah they'd nix the entire program and block YouTube videos all together if that was their stance.
Only blocking live-streaming makes it very clear why this happened.
Nintendo is something else.
Godzilla's Left Toe
Member
This is pretty dumb.
Phrozenflame500
Member
man nintendo really hates people promoting their games
i feel like attributing this entirely to pdp is a bit of a jump
i feel like attributing this entirely to pdp is a bit of a jump
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Honestly I don't think it's about PdP. This is more about how controlling they are in terms of people using their IPs for whatever.
What, you think ATLUS doing stuff like disallowing people to take screenshots in Persona 5 is inspired by pdp? Doubtful.
It's all about control, control, control.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Yeah, but...that's not what this says:
Wouldn't it say, "You cannot broadcast Nintendo content on YouTube Live" if that's what it meant? Legal stuff is intricate for a reason, right?
Godzilla's Left Toe
Member
That kinda makes sense Nazi ruin everything.
Poor GRIMES
Banned
Don't mind this at all.
It's their property. Considering that streamers are currently seen as top tier garbage right now after the most famous one showed his ass again, I don't blame them. More gaming companies should follow suit and stop allowing shitheads to profit off of their stuff.
It's their property. Considering that streamers are currently seen as top tier garbage right now after the most famous one showed his ass again, I don't blame them. More gaming companies should follow suit and stop allowing shitheads to profit off of their stuff.
Sega is also backwards, just watch the Jim Quisition Review of Sonic Mania... Atlus also denied streaming and sharing Screenshots on your PS4 with the share function and Persona(and also restricted streamers on what they should or should not show). Konami got hurt in their honor when Kojima judged their metal gear zombies,even though he wasn't that harsh.
It's a Japanese backwardness, I think it has much to do with their culture.
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
Him dropping the n-bomb during a Live Stream.
Wow, this is right after P-cube banned streaming of chaos;child too
This happened before the recent PewDieidiot incident though.
This happened before the recent PewDieidiot incident though.
Nah. Nintendo have hated the idea of YouTube/Twitch for years now.
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
Punish the entirety because of a minority?
That's like banning all of NeoGaf because a few posters got out of hand
Then why only target live streaming?
I'm sure Toyota doesn't want to be associated with ISIS, but they don't get to pull YouTube videos of their trucks.
And just do we're clear, I fully understand the legal differences between the cases and why Nintendo can do it and Toyota probably can't. I'm just stressing that I do not believe that a desire to avoid some potentially bad PR is a good enough reason to yet and limit speech like that.
Nintendo de-monetizes Youtube videos of their games unless you agree to give them a large share of your ad revenue.
SciencePilot
Member
That sounds really bad actually. I hope they walk it back.
Zap Rowsdower
Banned
It's like the only option they really have considering YouTube doesn't police their videos and refuse to even rein in their own biggest star for constantly being a racist douchebag.
As much I'm not willing to run to defend major corporations, a lot of the onus falls on YouTube for not doing anything about their Hitler Youth problem.