Jaded Alyx
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Please be joking.
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Nintendo Switch accessories (Hori/Officially licensed by Nintendo)
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ArchedThunder
Banned
Huh?
OmegaSmash
Member
Actually, what the hell will happen if you use the ethernet adapter but then undock the Switch?
Dark Cloud
Member
I guess the most important thing to look at from Nintendo is by not having the Ethernet port there they can make a lot more money from people buying it as an accessory than putting it into the dock.
Delusibeta
Banned
And while I'm talking about seals of quality, this leak is Laura Kate Dale approved.
None of the BotW French accessories has a date, though. Indeed, the English language sticker is the only accessory here that has a date.
It switches to wifi I'd expect. What else would happen?
It handoffs to wifi? The same way my laptop does when I remove it from the dock. Which has an ethernet port
Oh please, please do make that thread.
Franz Brötchen
Banned
Oh boy, really? Ethernet is standard for internet nowadays?
Come to think of it, it would explain those school children having those yellow cables and a cable drum with them in their bags on the train...
You are legit trolling right now, especially because you said a standard just like Wifi is a standard that the Switch ostensibly has, even out of the dock.
You'd be right to see it as Nintendo being cheap and/or going the succesful Apple route in making people buy adapters. But this is just stupid to discuss so long, I feel sad for having become dumber just now
That is either classic goal post moving and or both trolling.
Aztechnology
Member
For screen protection, I'm going with the liquid armor unless they have a tempered glass protector available on or shortly after launch.
Papacheeks
Banned
Tons of people use ethernet on their consoles I guarantee you that, PS4's original wifi chip sucked balls.
Ask how many PC users, core multiplayer players who are serious into gaming use wifi?
None of the French accessories have a date. If there was a delay for the entire system why wouldn't it be on here? It's an internal document not intended for use in general advertising, what need would they have to hide essential info like that intentionally?
I believe it's a lot fewer than you think it is.
What does that have to do with Switch? Do you actually think the people you're describing—min-maxing spec hound PC master racers—are going to form a significant chunk of the Switch userbase? Or that they form a significant chunk of the gaming population at large, for that matter?
I am curious now on the ethernet vs wifi usage argument. I myself doubt that ethernet is "niche". Sure it probably has been surpassed in usage by wifi but I'd love to know usage stats.
Does steam have stats on this? Looking from a pure gaming population that encompasses both laptops and desktop machines, I'm curious if Steam has stats on ethernet vs wireless usage. Does anyone know?
Does steam have stats on this? Looking from a pure gaming population that encompasses both laptops and desktop machines, I'm curious if Steam has stats on ethernet vs wireless usage. Does anyone know?
nephilimdj
Member
It handoffs to wifi? The same way my laptop does when I remove it from the dock. Which has an ethernet port
Wii U doesn't support this keep in mind, in some cases my Wii U will refuses to reconnect to same network if there is a drop out. Have to manually go all the way into settings
Papacheeks
Banned
Franz Brötchen;228044870 said:Oh boy, really? Ethernet is standard for internet nowadays?
Come to think of it, it would explain those school children having those yellow cables and a cable drum with them in their bags on the train...
You are legit trolling right now, especially because you said a standard just like Wifi is a standard that the Switch ostensibly has, even out of the dock.
You'd be right to see it as Nintendo being cheap and/or going the succesful Apple route in making people buy adapters. But this is just stupid to discuss so long, I feel sad for having become dumber just now
If ethernet isn't a standard guess my TV station doesn't need grouped LAG connections for our NAS. We should just switch to everything to AC connections right?
The only way for Pokken to work with the Switch would be to have the split screen half like an old racing game, thus taking away a lot of player screen space.
Why would it? There's no use case for the Wii U having a handoff feature from wired to wireless internet.
TheGamingBox
Banned
ofcourse its niche, at best the vast majority of homes with a router will most likely only use one ethernet port for the closest computer assuming the router is at the computer desk,
Aztechnology
Member
Backing you up here.
Wifi has sucked... horribly for me comparitive to Ethernet. Especially on a good PC as you say since the speeds you can actually utilize while downloading or otherwise are much faster (I download at 20-25MBps over ethernet. On my PS4 Pro, I'm lucky to get like 8MBps . I have reasonably fast internet speeds (~150Mbps), and I have one of the new high end Asus routers. Even with 5ghz connection and the devices being relatively close. The speed and ping are not comparable.
Can't it do portable style multiplayer with multiple Switches where every player has something different displayed on their screen?
I don't know what percentile of people with a non-Nintendo console use ethernet v. wifi, but I'm willing to bet there is a GIANT drop off when you push one option off as a paid add-on.
And that's the point. There's always going to be a ton of people using wifi, but you can mitigate that(as you should want to) by just including an ethernet port by default.
Thats not entirely surprising with how terrible that entire OS is.
I couldn't even use an adapter with the Wii U since my external HDD required both usb ports to power the damn thing.
Papacheeks
Banned
What about people who use time warner and the likes where they wire it in with the cable which usually is near the entertainment center.
That's where they would use wired because all of their devices hooked to their tv or entertainment center would benefit from using it.
This. Been a thing in phones where you can go from cell service to wifi seamlessly
TheGamingBox
Banned
even with if you had the ps4 pro hooked up to ethernet, it wouldnt be much better
That sucks, but fortunately, you have the option of using Ethernet with Switch.
From what we seen yes, but that means to get the full experience (granted the Wii U version was flawd in this aspect) you would need two consoles and two copies of the game. With the Wii U version you just need one copy of the game to enjoy multiplayer adequately. Pokken on Switch in docked mode means players looking at the TV with split screen perspectives.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Probably but I assumed he was talking about local multiplayer.
RobotMoses
Member
Doesn't the Wii U have four USB slots?
Papacheeks
Banned
It does work better, maybe not their PSN speeds would see it but hulu, netflix among other streaming services would definitely see it especially for high band width content.
Honestly most of them probably use WiFi too.
That doesn't answer my question although I understand your point. But to call it niche I'd expect 1-3% usage compared to say 30% usage hardwired. Just throwing it out there if Steam has this information published since they can collect a lot of data on their users.
I think Steam is a good indicator here due to laptops and desktop usage.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Yes.
Teletraan1
Banned
I just don't like that they make you choose network performance or looks. Build a sleek box and then have it look like shit with all these garish adapters hanging out instead of just an ethernet port hidden in the back with the HDMI. Much easier cable management without the thing looking like an octopus. But people will defend anything as long as Nintendo saves a buck.
Ethernet port usage on Steam, which is a platform on a computer, is in no way comparable to a console. It is a really bad indicator.
Papacheeks
Banned
Yup!
I'd be surprised if ethernet use was anywhere near 30% on consoles.
I'd guess under 10%.
Oh yeah I forgot the front 2 usb ports which aren't viable for either external HDD or an ugly ass dongle hanging off the front of the unit. Just my opinion on that one, but as a bullet point sure, I could have done it that way.
Aztechnology
Member
I do have my PS4 pro hooked up to ethernet as well. You're right that the Ethernet port on it just isn't very good. But at least it lowers ping. Speeds don't change much on it though, on PC it's a big difference though.
frankie_baby
Member
In the vast majority of homes the computer is a laptop, the router is by the phone socket and there's nothing plugged into it (only thing in mine is a femtocell thats not actually being used any more)
Delusibeta
Banned
The fact that the sole US accessory in the leak (the BotW decal set) has a date attached to it, and the rest of the accessories (which are intended for the EU market) lack a date is the reason why the conspiracy theory (the Switch gets delayed in the EU lock, stock and barrell) is rattling around in my head. Now, I'll freely admit that's the sole scrap of evidence for this theory, and I expect this theory will be disproven by the end of this week, but still. Makes you think, innit.
I had to wire the ps4 due to it dropping every few minutes. Wired has been flawless
My point was looking at a gaming population of a platform that both supports a wireless device (laptops) and wired devices.
Fair enough. Isn't Pokken supposed to have a fairly barebones single player mode? I guess it'll be a Crystal Chronicles type of situation.
I'd say it's far lower than that, even.