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[dankir]

Come on man, HDMI for single A/V output. Linear 7.1 PCM losses audio at least. Time to upgrade.

 

[hunnies28]

Shocking news thread?

 

[Garrett Hawke]

It is 2017

The optical receivers of the world fade into oblivion at this post

 

[ecosse_011172]

I can't believe Switch doesn't have Composite out, that's been a massive complaint of loads of people with great CRT TVs.

 

[ShutterMunster]

Time to buy a new receiver.

 

[Ragnorok64]

I'm also in the category of those that have an AV receiver without HDMI.

That said even if my receiver did have HDMI in, I'd be hesitant to use it for my gaming consoles. I don't want to introduce additional input lag. For the Wii U I just accepted that I'd have to deal with a worse audio experience.

 

[shandy706]

So you are mad that nintendo supports a superior standard?

No, us adults read it as him being mad that they don't include other options. The same options other consoles come with.

I only run one thing of optical though. I've switched to HDMI mostly, but my 2017 soundbar that I just put in my bedroom, that I just bought, is optical based (no hdmi)....and it was built this year, lol.''

WAT. lol

Some HDMI passthroughs introduce input lag for the video signal...you really are lost here aren't you. He has other options, but it's possible he could run into this. Video and input lag running into each other can be rough playing games.

 

[doctorcdcs]

I can't believe Switch doesn't have Composite out, that's been a massive complaint of loads of people with great CRT TVs.

what a silly post.

 

[Mandelbo]

Oops, didn't realise the Pro had it still - I thought Sony'd axed the port for all the new revisions.

 

[Doctre81]

I'm also in the category of those that have an AV receiver without HDMI.

That said even if my receiver did have HDMI in, I'd be hesitant to use it for my gaming consoles. I don't want to introduce additional input lag. For the Wii U I just accepted that I'd have to deal with a worse audio experience.

WAT. lol

 

[Vuze]

Just add a new sound system to that 512GB SD card and Ethernet adapter. No biggie really (am I doing this right?)

 

[Dartastic]

The bigger issue is that if the Switch doesn't support Dolby or DTS. Come on Nintendo. Get with it.

 

[Booker.DeWitt]

this is a tablet, you can't have everything there

 

[Kindekuma]

HDMI to receiver, receiver to speakers and HDMI out to TV? Problem solved?

 

[grandjedi6]

We should instead be asking if they support Bluetooth audio options.

 

[Doctre81]

No, us adults read it as him being mad that they don't include other options. The same options other consoles come with.

Maybe you adults should know that you can just hook it to the tv and then the tv to the reciever and it's a non issue?

 

[Karspankey]

What would be the best thing to switch to for someone who uses a DAC and optical? It would probably be an HD receiver, right?

 

[Bullza2o]

I had this problem with the Wii U until I bought a new Yamaha 5.1 receiver. Now I use PCM for my PS4, Wii U, and will do the same for Switch. There weren't too many Wii U games with 5.1 though.

 

[SlaughterX]

Upgrade your AVR bro, HDMI has been the standard for like 10 years now.

 

[MrS]

Joy-Cons don't even have a 3.5mm jack.

 

[doctorcdcs]

Maybe you adults should know that you can just hook it to the tv and then the tv to the reciever and it's a non issue?

some (samsung) lcd tvs will still only output to 2 channel audio even when you try to do that.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Optical is no longer standard. At worst, it was a mild inconvenience that it wasn't included in the Wii U.

 

[ecosse_011172]

what a silly post.

It's a bit exaggerated of course but Receivers have had HDMI for 10 years, optical is an old, obsolete, legacy method which doesn't even have the bandwidth for uncompressed 5 channel sound IIRC.

 

[Doctre81]

I had this problem with the Wii U until I bought a new Yamaha 5.1 receiver. Now I use PCM for my PS4, Wii U, and will do the same for Switch. There weren't too many Wii U games with 5.1 though.

?

 

[Prologue]

on the ps4 pro

 

[Hattori]

What would be the best thing to switch to for someone who uses a DAC and optical? It would probably be an HD receiver, right?

If your TV has an optical out you can use that method, this is what I use for my iDSD micro

 

[liquidtmd]

The scoffing at the OP is pretty laughable.

They use a feature. Their setup employs the feature. Many use the feature. Other consoles use the feature. Switch doesn't support the feature. OP presents themselves rationally and says it isn't a deal breaker

'Lolololol I suppose you have 56k modem too OP, don't blame Nintendo!'

 

[NekoFever]

The bigger issue is that if the Switch doesn't support Dolby or DTS. Come on Nintendo. Get with it.

Why would it need to without optical? HDMI supports uncompressed multichannel audio, which is higher quality for us and doesn't cost anything for Nintendo. Win/win.

Or are there receivers that have HDMI but don't support PCM?

 

[Kaelan]

We've known this and it's not surprising. Sucks cause I wanna use my Astros, but I can just plug it in the audio jack

 

[The Omega Man]

Nintendo had to save 5 dollars on adding an optical port so they could give you old roms for 30 days and 70$ controllers if they would have added optical then the roms would last 15 days and the controllers would cost 90$.

Thank you Nintendo-sama you always know what's best for us.

 

[Spman2099]

One of the biggest complaints I had heard about both the Wii and Wii U was the lack of an optical audio out port. It is something that stopped myself and from what I have read a lot of others being able to hook up their systems to their 5.1 surround sound systems.

After doing some research today it appears the Switch also doesn't support this feature. I mean seriously Nintendo? Some of us have quality 5.1 setups that don't support HDMI audio and your competition both have this feature. It won't stop my preorder but Nintendo's lack of including features that should be a given are maddening.

If they aren't going to provide an ethernet port then they sure as hell aren't going to give you an optical port.

This is Nintendo. Expect nothing and you will only be a little disappointed.

 

[Type_Raver]

it matters to me since i still use optical.

Yeah fair enough.

I suppose while its inconvenient, there are ways through switch/converter units that can receive and convert HDMI and split out via optical+HDMI.

 

[takoyaki]

Didn’t expect otherwise.

What’s actually bothering me is the possible lack of support for Bluetooth Headphones. Nintendo is selling the Switch as full-fledged handheld and yet it might be missing something this basic (Vita had it in 2011)

 

[brawly]

People ITT calling it a legacy port...give me a break. There's more than enough people using mixamp/headsets. Probably not on Nintendo systems but still.

 

[FallingSputnik]

Optical out is very much alive, I mean a lot of those fancy gaming headsets use it, although any serious audiophile probably has a receiver that uses HDMI. Grab an adapter OP, and maybe a flame shield.

 

[Blastoise]

unfortunately its time to let that thing go

 

[BocoDragon]

I dont really get the "its old!" posts. I mean, sure, its old, but both PS4 and Xbox One have it. I'm pretty sure that both Xbox Scorpio and PS5 will also have it.

I'd be extremely surprised if they did.

Receivers have had HDMI for a decade now.

 

[shandy706]

Maybe you adults should know that you can just hook it to the tv and then the tv to the reciever and it's a non issue?

LOL....wow. Stop being a jerk. He may have a setup where this isn't convenient.

Not a good look.

I'm not lost at all. He is talking about the audio lagging behind the picture.

He says "input" lag, maybe he wasn't specific enough?...and that still doesn't change the situation as I mentioned above. More options is always better than less, period.

 

[Doctre81]

Some HDMI passthroughs introduce input lag for the video signal...you really are lost here aren't you. He has other options, but it's possible he could run into this. Video and input lag running into each other can be rough playing games.

I'm not lost at all. He is talking about the audio lagging behind the picture.

LOL....wow. Stop being a jerk. He may have a setup where this isn't convenient.

Not a good look.

I replied to him just how he replied to me. "us adults"

No, us adults read it as him being mad that they don't include other options. The same options other consoles come with.

 

[Booker.DeWitt]

people complaining about this and comparing tothe ps4 and xboXbox are forgetting the fact that the switch is underpowered and much smaller. switch is like a portable system that you dock to play on TV, you can't expect all features on a limited tablet.

 

[Trogdor1123]

Most of the best gaming headsets still use optical. If the pro didn't have it I wouldn't have upgraded.

 

[leng jai]

This was expected, it's Nintendo. Don't think they should ever had optical on their consoles. Pretty lame if you want to connect a DAC/amp/headphone setup to it. The roundabout solution I used with the Wii U was plugging it into the HDMI in Port of my Xbone and using the optical out there. Pretty ridiculous but it works and sounds alright. .

So

 

[FallingSputnik]

I'd be extremely surprised if they did.

Receivers have had HDMI for a decade now.

So you think MS/Sony are going to stop supporting headphones, lol, really?

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

people complaining about this and comparing tothe ps4 and xboXbox are forgetting the fact that the switch is underpowered and much smaller. switch is like a portable system that you dock to play on TV, you can't expect all features on a limited tablet.

The system will undoubtedly support surround sound formats, just the newest formats like LPCM over HDMI. Same as WiiU. Nintendo has never bothered with Optical nor anything Dolby past Pro Logic II.

 

[Ragnorok64]

WAT. lol

I take it you're unfamiliar with input lag then.

 

[spazimoose]

We've known this and it's not surprising. Sucks cause I wanna use my Astros, but I can just plug it in the audio jack

Funny you should mention that. I was watching the Treehouse Live and I distinctly remember seeing a what looked like an Astro Mixamp wired up behind one of the demo units. It would still work if the switch supported USB headsets.

 

[primasaurus]

meh

 

[BocoDragon]

So you think MS/Sony are going to stop supporting headphones, lol, really?

I guess I'm baffled why headphones would use it in 2017 too.

 

[nomis]

Don't worry OP, you Nintendo expected you to shell out $100+ for accessories anyways, what's an extra 30

 

[Matt]

I understand people being annoyed, but more and more media devices have been and will be forgoing optical in the future.

Hell, the PS4 Slim doesn't have it either.