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Nintendo's Super Smash Bros. for 3DS National Open Tournament
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ProphessorX
Neo Member
Rosalina you so dirty girl. And boring. Where's that fan art popping up showing her as the monster she is? Seriously, has anyone gotten her down past 2 stock remaining?
Maybe if Luma didn't regenerate like with the Ice Climbers. It would be more of an incentive to focus on separating and taking out Luma. As it is, Rosalina can keep her distance and just wait to pull out another.
Maybe if Luma didn't regenerate like with the Ice Climbers. It would be more of an incentive to focus on separating and taking out Luma. As it is, Rosalina can keep her distance and just wait to pull out another.
Nope, Rosalina & Luma is the first of its kind in Smash.
sixteen-bit
Member
Rosaluma 2 stronk
Same here man, eagerly waiting for that Wii u version. Good tournament by Nintendo
Whenever I lose to a Rosalina it's cause I screwed up and/or was unaware that her B is a kill move.. I'm usually able to get rid of Luma pretty easily with DK.
It's definitely a matchup sorta thing.
SparksterMeta0
Member
What about Bowser from Comic Con's tourney?
Ragingnight
Member
smash hasn't ever had a space controlling character like rosa ever. They had zoners but nothing that controls a specific area of space like rosa.
Most people who are saying shes op for
1) being 2 characters
2) having strong attacks
3) turning invisible
4) having teleports
and etc should be straight up ignored. I honestly think the fact that you can't grab her if luma is near is pretty dumb but that was a design decision (hell it even tells you that tip in the loading screen). I think none of the reasons above are the reasons why she is strong. There are a little nuances here and there that imo. give her an advantage on top of being a puppet character. Luma respawning is fine, but 8 sec for the amount of coverage he does is too small. I honestly think 10-12 should be fine. 10 seconds is a long time in a fighting game.
Most smash only players probably won't figure her out, and espcially the scrubs/casuals.
Nope tho the closest thing would probably be the iceclimbers.
ProphessorX
Neo Member
LOL Mario cheering on his destroyer. Whyyyyyyyyy
PhoenixDawn
Member
I've had success with characters like bowser/little mac who have fast tilts/dash attacks that can instantly KO Luma with one connection. Once you knock away the Luma you can get a bunch of good hits on Rosalina usually and repeat the process when it respawns.
Acerac
Banned
That's a good description of this result.
sixteen-bit
Member
lmao that robe is insult to injury for poor jumpman
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
That's a nice trophy.
I enjoyed that, always nice to see an antagonist character get some love in Smash.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
ahhh. Awkward gamers. Great stuff.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Not really, Ice Climbers are the closest thing and Nana was more of a liability than Luma, since it regenerates so quickly while Nana never came back until you lost the stock.
The only nerf I'd give Rosalina is make Luma's respawn time a bit longer. I don't think Luma should be as throw-away as it is since you can let it eat all sorts of damage or just ignore it for a while/let it die, but still reliably have it when you need it.
FleetingFlowAir
Member
USA USA USA USA USA USA
This was an anticlimatic end with Rosalina hardly even going under 2 stocks.
This was an anticlimatic end with Rosalina hardly even going under 2 stocks.
Gotdatmoney
Member
I think Luma respawn at 8 sec is way too short. Needs 12-15 or it needs to die faster. I also think the roll should not be invisible, that's honestly really dumb as well. You can't react as fast to an invisible roll which makes players have to guess. No character should have gotten that ability. Other than that I think she's aight.
Ragingnight
Member
honestly, I wonder how rosa would be if they tied the upB being reliant on having luma on the field. 8 secs of no recovery move? pretty fucking ass but might be fair with testing.
15 sec is way to long. 15 sec might not seem much when you aren't playing a fighting game but man, 15 sec of not having your biggest tools sucksssss. I want to see if losing up+b if luma is gone would make it fair. 8 secs of no recovery move? yeahhhhh
15 sec is way to long. 15 sec might not seem much when you aren't playing a fighting game but man, 15 sec of not having your biggest tools sucksssss. I want to see if losing up+b if luma is gone would make it fair. 8 secs of no recovery move? yeahhhhh
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
/salt
makes sense. weirdly enough ive yet to find a rosalina at all in for Glory.
think the issue here, is unlike ice climbers, rosalina seems to be a fiarly decent character herself without luma as well. Strong quick moves with really wacky hitboxes.
Mr. Smiley
Member
At least the message's out that Little Mac is the least of your worries.
Ragingnight
Member
would be dumb outside 1v1. in FFA or doubles, she would straight up die. She would be total ass because she would be the easiest one to KO by far.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Again, the game hasn't been out long so people still need to figure it out I agree but from watching this tourney the Luma did not seem gone for long. Granted, this Mario did not try to disable Luma much which may have been the issue. 8 secs is way to short considering the toolset that Rosalina has though. I also don't think Rosalina recovery was what people were having trouble containing either. Rosalina without Luma isn't worthless which is the main issue as well.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I think that would be a bit much.
Really, my opinion is just that the Rosalina player should have to think about Luma. Do you want Luma to be your meatshield? Okay, but when it gets KO'd that means you are going to be punished by not having Luma for a while (more than 8 seconds for sure). Do you want to send it out to do attacks? Okay, but it's not going to take damage for you. As it is, Luma reliably does both and within the rules of Smash I think that's a bit much.
Rosalina is a completely competent character even without Luma, dramatically more than Popo, who didn't get Nana back until he lost his stock. Even 15 seconds wouldn't severely hurt her. 20 wouldn't be unfair (in Melee it might, but Smash 4 stocks last a lot longer).
yeah.
would make more sense if she takes a 50% or so damage decrease or something for those 8 seconds.
It's interesting that unlike all the other new characters in this game with different pros and cons, i can't really think of any cons of Rosalina.
she's fine herself, and luuma just makes her great.