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He's probably stacked on Amrita buffs + sake + guardian spirit combos like Saorise + Suzaku with living weapon + talismans, etc
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Nioh |OT2| You Can Be My Yojimbo Anytime
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He's probably stacked on Amrita buffs + sake + guardian spirit combos like Saorise + Suzaku with living weapon + talismans, etc
H3rTz DoNuT
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Yeah, I have 160% amrita gain plus sake so it goes really quick, 3 more levels to go
Yeah, I have 160% amrita gain plus sake so it goes really quick, 3 more levels to go
How much final blow damage do you have? What are your perks for final blow damage at?
That's so hilarious that there's a disclaimer for contradictions between the real life William Adams and the one in Nioh. The entire game so far has been filled with demons and the undead.
What does this mean exactly? Farm Revenants that drop weapons/armor with transferrable abilities?
H3rTz DoNuT
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It does like 28K physical and 7K fire , in total 35%. It's all level 150 gear with no + upgrades. 4 pieces of Sanada Crimson (chest, arms, legs, boots) head piece from Fanatic's armor, Main weapon of your choice fully upgraded and Atagi Sadamune as a secondary for extra 15% final blow. Fully upgraded Suzaku as a main spirit and fully upgraded Saoirse as a secondary. Just put some mid break % and + break on your weapon and fire damage and + break on cannon. You can also put +50% fire damage on your main weapon as well. And of course you gonna need a lot of +% to Armita on your gear that includes both accessories with +28% each.
This is my run, it really take like a minute to get it done.
https://youtu.be/IM57F729qmM
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
So uh... that
boss fight. Bloodborne rip-off anyone? C'mon Team Ninja hahah.
Edit: oooh we can we get
? I forgot to check...
Maria
C'mon Team Ninja hahah.Edit: oooh we can we get
her skin at the Hidden Teahouse
This game is a slow burn for me
Makes me feel better
I can take my timeSo uh... thatboss fight. Bloodborne rip-off anyone?Maria
edit: nvm, I don't know that fight yet
Go, go, go! Before team ninja makes it so that revenants drop absolutely nothing.
So uh... thatboss fight. Bloodborne rip-off anyone?Maria
Edit: oooh we can we get? I forgot to check...her skin at the Hidden Teahouse
Her
she's
Maria
Yes. Took me a while (and help...) to defeat them.
Triggerhappytel
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I just started this last night; I'm about an hour in I guess. Having a lot of trouble mentally re-adjusting from Bloodborne which I played earlier this year - I keep hitting circle to roll and ballsing that up. It's very good so far though, although I kind of feel I should be getting a PS4 Pro and playing at 60fps (although don't have the money for that). I got some massive gold armour as a DLC reward at the first shrine and I've been wearing that as it really reduces the damage I take. Aside from that I'm just finding my flow with the combat. Is there anything particular I need to know?
Grumplestiltskin
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Look at the skills for all the weapons to see what piques your curiosity the most and don't be afraid to experiment as rerolling your stats and skills is trivial
grounded_dreams
Member
Bought this game yesterday, liking what I've played, not far in yet still in the Isle of Demons area.
Went with a spear and double swords plus choose the Isonade Guardian Spirit as I like being able to see enemies on the map.
Are there any beginner hints or guidance as it does seem a tad overbearing to start.
I'm a bloodborne style of player and will be hoping to unlock the backstab skill once I finish the Demons area. Anything else which is essential to unbreak, or skills to build up - looking to push into the Body, Heart, Stamina, Strength just to get a half decent half and weight for equipment before deciding on what style of player I will be.
Thanks
Went with a spear and double swords plus choose the Isonade Guardian Spirit as I like being able to see enemies on the map.
Are there any beginner hints or guidance as it does seem a tad overbearing to start.
I'm a bloodborne style of player and will be hoping to unlock the backstab skill once I finish the Demons area. Anything else which is essential to unbreak, or skills to build up - looking to push into the Body, Heart, Stamina, Strength just to get a half decent half and weight for equipment before deciding on what style of player I will be.
Thanks
Triggerhappytel
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Thanks. I've tried with an axe and spear, but so far I will probably stick with the single sword for the foreseeable future. Most comfortable for my fighting style, and I'm trying to get used to switching stances.
GoldenCrow
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You don't really need to be as focused with your levelling due to the book of resurrection which allows you to respec at any point. There is a lot of different ways to play the game and by experimenting rather than being too focused in the beginning will give you a better understanding of the systems in use.
Armour is often more important than your actual level, and weapon/item/armour perks can have a much bigger impact on a specific type of build you might want to create.
Lol the future press guide has been delayed yet again to June 30th.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/3869930837/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/3869930837/
grounded_dreams
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AmethystEnd
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Lol, it's gonna end up being 2000 pages.
Augemitbutter
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maybe they should wait until all dlc are released, lol.
Honestly, I think they're struggling to keep up with the balance and loot drop changes added in patch after patch and judging by some of a german spy's and rbfrosty's stream comments more drastic changes may come in later patches. I can imagine communication from the Japanese team also being quite hard, or not being well ahead of time, for editing and publishing purposes.
I think maybe it's better to wait until all the dlc is released and/or the inevitable GOTY/sigma edition gets released. It's not like I want or need a written walkthrough as I, and many others in this thread, have done pretty much everything in this game but accurate loot tables would have been nice. Kinda just wanted it for collection's sake as future press tend to go above and beyond with quality.
Still says May 31 on Amazon US. I wonder when they will update it?
Would be kind of a shame if they put out a guide that explains a system in Nioh, and then Team Ninja changes that system in one of the upcoming DLC.
H3rTz DoNuT
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Farming 200+ gear is such a pain man, I did like 20 runs and only got one 205 piece. This is gonna take a while 200+ gear drops only in the new region right?
200+ gear drops only in the new region right?Farming 200+ gear is such a pain man, I did like 20 runs and only got one 205 piece. This is gonna take a while
Can you post your stats and gear? so I can know what is my end goal?
Like you know in Diablo 3 there is builds you farm for end game, I like to know what is my end goal to end up being super powerfull.
Farming 200+ gear is such a pain man, I did like 20 runs and only got one 205 piece. This is gonna take a while
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn3S8phiT-g
So I followed this guide along with building a 600+ luck gear set w/gyokuto and high luck when using LW accessories and I've gotten two 209 weapons and many 200+ armor pieces. Not gonna bother with 210 though and just gonna take a break before continuing base level run for the dlc.
H3rTz DoNuT
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Yes I will do it later today, still doing some minor changes. I just wan it to be up to date.
I wouldn't stress too much about builds, at the moment, as it's very easy to respec. Just experiment with the skills and weapons that interest you while putting points into the stats that scale with your preferred weapon. At least don't worry about it until you're in NG+, where it really becomes more diablo than souls.
If you just want a taste of end game gear and builds I would check out PWARgaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwbjb-TQEPo&t on youtube (mega-spoilers for you though) or just wait for H3rTz DoNuT to post some sweet perfect gear
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Good thing you can play at 60fps without a pro!
Graphics take a bit of a hit, but it's worth it.Nice, dual swords are very powerful and along with the single katana my favourite weapon. They scale primarily with skill so prioritise that stat. If you're used to souls style scaling, it's a bit weird here as it doesn't really scale linearly nor are there soft or hard caps when it comes to damage. The damage will go up in a cycle like 1,3,5, 1,3,5 or something like that.
I would pick up these skills, not necessarily in any order:
Flux II - gives you a net positive ki when you switch stances one or more times as you ki pulse. Not mandatory but really helps with offense and styling on yokai enemies and bosses.
Ki pulse: Heaven, Man and Earth - Ki pulse automatically when dodging in high, mid and low stance respectively.
God of wind III - Great unblockable combo that wrecks enemy ki and does solid damage. Practice timing the second triangle for a double overhead slash. Feels really satisfying once you have the timing down.
Sign of the Cross I and II: A charged and powerful quickdraw of both swords. Incredible burst damage and the start-up animation can be shortened if you ki-pulse into it after a combo. A good and easy combo is God of wind III into sign of the cross.
Water sword - Anime as fuck move but very situational for certain bosses
Windstorm - A very powerful and borderline broken high stance move than instantly breaks yokai horns and is relatively safe to use in PVE.
The shrike - I've often seen people struggle against human opponents, whether it be revenants or bosses but if you learn how to parry and punish you'll really enjoy fighting them. After this particular parry, they'll slump to the floor where you can punish heavily with a fully charged Sign of the cross, then killing strike(triangle when they're on the floor) then sign of the cross again.
Passive skills - Take a look at some of the other skill trees and you can pick up their passives as they will generally work with any weapon. Kusarigama tree has some the best ones like increased damage from behind, killing strike damage and increased damage when at full health.
I'm probably missing some stuff but hope this helps. You can pick up a cheap respec book from the blacksmith that increases in price each time you buy it (never really gets too expensive though) so just experiment for yourself and have fun.
GwyndolinCinder
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We should probably make a FAQ,feel like lots of new people join and since Nioh is so different there is alot to explain.
I'd read that. Only getting around to Nioh now after Zelda, Horizon, Nier, Persona,Yakuza etc.
Yeah, that would be helpful to new players seeing as the game itself sometimes does a horrible job explaining things.
For instance with the new stat on gear - Bonus when surrounded - the tooltip says it activates in 2v1 scenarios but it only activates in 3v1 scenarios. Why Team ninja Why?!?
Also how's the base level run going? Get ready to tear your hair out on
Orochi
great write up man thanks for this.
Wait is that right? can I unlock Passives of different weapons and they will work? oh man this is great.
Was putting all on Heart but will Respec with that thing you mention to put all in Skill instead.
great write up man thanks for this.
Wait is that right? can I unlock Passives of different weapons and they will work? oh man this is great.
Was putting all on Heart but will Respec with that thing you mention to put all in Skill instead.
Yeah most passives will work globally and they're often very useful. Heart is still very useful as it gives more max ki. Note when I said damage has no real soft or hard cap on stat scaling, increasing ki via heart or max equipment weight via stamina or strength does have soft and hard caps. I don't have the breakpoints off hand but IIRC at some point (maybe 30) ki only increases by 1 each level.
Also try to run around with A (30% equipment load) or B (70% equipment load) agility as this affects evasion ki usage and ki used for each attack. The difference in ki usage between A and B agility is, generally, ~10% whereas the difference between A and C agility is a whopping 60%. You can see your equipment load and agility rank easily in the top right corner when looking at any armor piece or on the status screen. But play whichever way you find comfortable dude.
Sorry for the info dump.
I will play with whatever gives me A agility, I dont like being heavy or tank stuff, I prefer to be agile and dodge everything, ki pulsing and using low stance with double katanas is satisfying as fuck.
lol, grab a cup of tea/coffee or beverage of your choice and get ready for that inventory management. As much as some people hate it, inventory management is part and parcel in diablo-like games and Nioh is no exception. I actually kinda find it relaxing but I also generally do a blacksmith disassemble/sell run after every farming mission or two so it never really gets out of hand.
Another thing nioh doesn't really explain very well is conflicting stats on weapons. Close combat damage conflicts with attack from behind so reroll that to something like familiarity damage bonus or change to attack (body). Here is a useful (pre 1.07) loot table that shows the different stat pools w/min and max values at max familiarity:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16ATVIr-dSH-n10925y_KLLihv1ucjmYXSSSEg_WqmnU/edit#gid=0
Generally you can only have one weapon/armor stat from each stat pool but this loot table is a bit out of date as now you can have things like fam damage bonus, change to attack and CCD on the same weapon.
F0rneus
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12000 glory to go before I can stare at Ginchiyo instead of discount Geralt and his huge chin. Coop is absolutely fabulous when things go right. Been doing just that for the past two days. 1200000 amrita to spend, and I'm level what, 52? Been killing Nue so many times....so good.
To be fair, it took a couple of months after release for that loot table to be compiled and it's only been 2 weeks since the dlc dropped. With so many changes to the loot system and special effects after the 1.08 it will take some time for it to be updated.
Spartancarver
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Spartancarver
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Oh sweet that's good to know about Windstorm, I picked it up but haven't really gotten into the habit of using it regularly in PvE
Didn't know about the passives from other trees carrying over too, I'll have to go look at those. Cheers! b
GwyndolinCinder
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Aye the save is at him now, after the first phase he wont be bad
But first phase has the sometimes unavoidable breath attack....I like the boss, but with my restrictions hes going to be a pain in the ass, cause i have no patience.
Make an FAQ specifically for Nue
There are a few bosses which could probably have a section deticatied to them.