I postponed mine until PC release
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Nioh |OT2| You Can Be My Yojimbo Anytime
- Thread starter mcz117chief
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I postponed mine until PC release
I'm torn between dropping the game cold turkey so I play other shit or getting on the treadmill to see how powerful I can get. May want to at least get all DLC trophies eventually, I got all of the main game's, and Way of the Demon isn't a big deal once you've cleared Way of the Nioh.
Just kinda wish I didn't need cracked Ochoko cups for the abyss, I could just keep on jumping in and trying then. Or at least guarantee one for every time I help someone clear a floor.
Just kinda wish I didn't need cracked Ochoko cups for the abyss, I could just keep on jumping in and trying then. Or at least guarantee one for every time I help someone clear a floor.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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Man Marobashi amrita farm on Way of the Nioh ain't no joke. This is really gonna help me pass those level 1080 stages and the DLC's. I used to think level 750 was completely out of the question but now I'm at level 659.
Augemitbutter
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i'm almost done with this game. kinda don't want to finish the last missions. but i've spend enough time with it already. let's go.
DominusLeges
Member
Looks like Team Ninja just nerfed the crap out of Living Weapon and certain graces builds with the latest patch. I really wish they would stop pulling this shit. It takes ages to get the gear for these builds and they just nerf them into the ground without so much as a warning or anything.
Augemitbutter
Member
somehow i never play the builds that are getting nerfed. they never touch my shit.
somehow i never play the builds that are getting nerfed. they never touch my shit.
What builds do you use?
Looks like the patch hit all the damage-boosts in critical status; they no longer proc during living weapon.
Well, they certainly do up the ante quite a bit. The first story stage boss in the first DLC is pretty damn tough before you get a read on him. Nothing impossible, certainly, but tough.
I'm putting off TEW2 for a while, so I think I will give the Nioh DLC a go.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
Yes, Return of the Gourd definitely needs two four swords yokai and a bunch of revenants with arrow spam before a double boss fight. For sure. Thank you Team Ninja. So generous.
Yes, Return of the Gourd definitely needs two four swords yokai and a bunch of revenants with arrow spam before a double boss fight. For sure. Thank you Team Ninja. So generous.
That mission was really meant to be played in co-op.
Although it can be solod.
After all this time I'm still not sure if Nioh has straight up cheap moments (like this one) or simply encounters designed for much more skilled people than me.Yes, Return of the Gourd definitely needs two four swords yokai and a bunch of revenants with arrow spam before a double boss fight. For sure. Thank you Team Ninja. So generous.
But yeah, just seeing those turbo Namahage in the cutscene broke my spirit. I didn't even fight one yet, I stopped going through the DLC right there.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
This game has too many duel bosses, I'd say. I didn't mind the yokai bosses other than Umi-bozu since they let you just do the typical dodge and attack routine, but some of the duel bosses are just tedious. Blocking when they should be vulnerable, weird tracking on some of their moves, phasing through your attacks because the game says they aren't allowed to be hit right now (straight out of Ninja Gaiden). Some are really cool, some are really awful (
real Tachibana Muneshige, who does almost NOTHING but spam uninterruptible Iai moves
Augemitbutter
Member
What builds do you use?
Looks like the patch hit all the damage-boosts in critical status; they no longer proc during living weapon.
finished the game with dual swords and swordsman armor, sometimes tonfa. pretty plain actually. with atlas bear in critical moments.
i agree the game has too many dual boss special mission. i'd rather have stronger single fights.
After all this time I'm still not sure if Nioh has straight up cheap moments (like this one) or simply encounters designed for much more skilled people than me.
But yeah, just seeing those turbo Namahage in the cutscene broke my spirit. I didn't even fight one yet, I stopped going through the DLC right there.
I never thought I'd find a more annoying enemy than Raven Tengu's, but the Namahage eventually surpassed them after playing all of the DLC. Even after fighting countless, I still feel a little nervous whenever I encounter one. I still don't like Onyudo's (tongue yokai) either.
DominusLeges
Member
The training missions on way of the Nioh that make you use wooden weapons are stupidly hard. The health pools combined with the damage handicap of the wooden weapons is just maddening. It feels like their health poolswerebt toiled around the fact that you are dishing out substantially less damage than you would normally. The amount of combos and hits it takes to kill these enemies is straight up absurd. And don't even get me started on the damn Omnyo mission.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
You can cheese all of weapon trials. Just abuse the AI around the bridge. Omnyo trials. Are pretty difficult though. Those wolves in the final one. Gahhh.
Alone, the Raven Tengu are rather simple to handle. They are more or less guaranteed to use the spin-kick if you move enough to the sides or right behind them. You can initiate it, back off, circle behind them again to make them do it all over again and hit them a few times before they start the kick once again. That chain can be looped 'till the Tengu falls dead.I never thought I'd find a more annoying enemy than Raven Tengu's, but the Namahage eventually surpassed them after playing all of the DLC. Even after fighting countless, I still feel a little nervous whenever I encounter one. I still don't like Onyudo's (tongue yokai) either.
I hear ya about the Namahage though. Facing one will always have that little bit of uncertainty. I rather like their inclusion for that, as the basic Oni are just too easy to handle nowadays, no matter how 'strong' they are.
Any news on the official strategy guide release date?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/3869930837/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Amazon still says Dec 31, 2017.... all the DLC is out so they should be finalizing the guide right?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/3869930837/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Amazon still says Dec 31, 2017.... all the DLC is out so they should be finalizing the guide right?
Any news on the official strategy guide release date?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/3869930837/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Amazon still says Dec 31, 2017.... all the DLC is out so they should be finalizing the guide right?
Future Press hasn't made any statements which saddens me.
I don't think I've ever done this much grinding (I loathe it). The game can get away with it because it's mechanically so much fun, but there is no way I'm ever replaying this DLC. Ever. I even have to grind for elixirs because the system is so fucked. Facing an end game boss with 4 elixirs is a fucking joke.
Got past Maria btw.
Got past Maria btw.
I don't think I've ever done this much grinding (I loathe it). The game can get away with it because it's mechanically so much fun, but there is no way I'm ever replaying this DLC. Ever. I even have to grind for elixirs because the system is so fucked. Facing an end game boss with 4 elixirs is a fucking joke.
Got past Maria btw.
Collect the Kodama and youll always have eight elixirs from any shrine. I have never carried more than eight and been fine.
Collect the Kodama and youll always have eight elixirs from any shrine. I have never carried more than eight and been fine.
I'm in a new area.
I'm in a new area.
Start collecting!
Start collecting!
There is only one main mission and I already have 8/10.
There is only one main mission and I already have 8/10.
Well then you have five almost six elixers.
I finished the first three difficulty levels and I never grinder elixers and I have like 2000 of them in storage.
If you need some go back and do some side missions from previous areas and youll end up with extras.
Well then you have five almost six elixers.
I finished the first three difficulty levels and I never grinder elixers and I have like 2000 of them in storage.
If you need some go back and do some side missions from previous areas and youll end up with extras.
No, I have four, as I said. I already went back and got some.
I also finished the main game with largely ignoring the side missions and not having a clue about the forge. It's just this DLC that's so ridiculous to me.
No, I have four, as I said. I already went back and got some.
I also finished the main game with largely ignoring the side missions and not having a clue about the forge. It's just this DLC that's so ridiculous to me.
Oh right you start with three and you get one more for each five kodama and there are 25 kodama in each area. For a total of eight.
If you have a charm with kodama sense then it helps to easily find them.
If you are up to Maria then you can go back and get all the kodama in the area pretty easily. Watch a video of where to find them if needed. It takes like 10 minutes to collect them all if you finished the missions already.
Morrigan Stark
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Always keep a piece of equipment with Kodama Sense around, just in case.
Oh right you start with three and you get one more for each five kodama and there are 25 kodama in each area. For a total of eight.
If you have a charm with kodama sense then it helps to easily find them.
If you are up to Maria then you can go back and get all the kodama in the area pretty easily. Watch a video of where to find them if needed. It takes like 10 minutes to collect them all if you finished the missions already.
Got past Maria btw.
I already beat Maria. I'm in "Osaka (Winter)".
edit: just got past Sasuke too. Couldn't have done it with less than 8 elixirs.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
I wish it didn't take so long to unlock the last training missions and skills. Smacking enemies with the kusarigama's normal attacks is really wearing thin.
I kind of feel it's worth plowing through Way of the Strong and reaching Way of the demon to get better gear on that difficulty, then tackling the DLC.
New patch screwed cheesing with the spear, so I went back to an Odachi build. Still getting fucked up though, I should just put it down since it's only Abyss grinding and some DLC trophies to mop up at this point.
New patch screwed cheesing with the spear, so I went back to an Odachi build. Still getting fucked up though, I should just put it down since it's only Abyss grinding and some DLC trophies to mop up at this point.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Is there a way to just not constantly die in one hit? I'm close to the end of the game and really tired of every single boss having an instant kill attack/ guard break combo/ some combination of the two.
Uh, yes? Getting better armor, using heavier armor, getting higher toughness, getting a weapon with higher Parry value, re-forging your weapon to get a reduction to Ki loss during blocking. Getting more levels to get more life. Reforging your armor to have better stats and specials. Also, your choice of Guardian Spirit(s) can make quite the difference.Is there a way to just not constantly die in one hit? I'm close to the end of the game and really tired of every single boss having an instant kill attack/ guard break combo/ some combination of the two.
And all this before the age old universal medicine of gittin' gud.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
I always keep my armor up to date and it's never sufficient, even when I equip heavier armor. And the systems in this game are confusing. You can't even pick the stat that you get from reforging?
I'm at the "last" boss. And it's terrible. The camera doesn't properly follow
Okay, just got killed by
because it bugged out and refused to fall over even though it had 0 health, then killed me instantly with a projectile.
Managed to kill it this time but that is just unbelievable.
I'm at the "last" boss. And it's terrible. The camera doesn't properly follow
the heads so I have no idea when to dodge, and the breath attacks seem nigh-undodgeable as well. Can action games just stop putting huge spectacle bosses as their final battles? It's just awful. Only decent one was Bayonetta 1's.
Okay, just got killed by
Orochi
Managed to kill it this time but that is just unbelievable.
Nocturnowl
Member
Picked up the discounted season pass, aw yeah time to get back into some nioh action.
It's going great, I'm bombarded by new features (weapons and second spirits? Oohhh), the first area has a solid design with some new foes.
Then I reach the boss and sweet cheese and crackers this centipede armed madman hits me like a runaway freight train on crack after breaking a monitor with a picture of Sonic's shoes. Two hits is all I can take, I'm getting the pattern down but man, the difficulty spike feels unreal.
Gonna have to come back tomorrow.
It's going great, I'm bombarded by new features (weapons and second spirits? Oohhh), the first area has a solid design with some new foes.
Then I reach the boss and sweet cheese and crackers this centipede armed madman hits me like a runaway freight train on crack after breaking a monitor with a picture of Sonic's shoes. Two hits is all I can take, I'm getting the pattern down but man, the difficulty spike feels unreal.
Gonna have to come back tomorrow.
Picked up the discounted season pass, aw yeah time to get back into some nioh action.
It's going great, I'm bombarded by new features (weapons and second spirits? Oohhh), the first area has a solid design with some new foes.
Then I reach the boss and sweet cheese and crackers this centipede armed madman hits me like a runaway freight train on crack after breaking a monitor with a picture of Sonic's shoes. Two hits is all I can take, I'm getting the pattern down but man, the difficulty spike feels unreal.
Gonna have to come back tomorrow.
I remembered when I fought him the first time it took me a couple of tries. I think what I did was I kept my distance and baited out the attacks that would let me run in and do a few hits before backing away. Once he only had a sliver of health left, I activated LW and that was that.
In terms of bosses, I think the first DLC was the hardest for me, second and third weren't as bad.
Nocturnowl
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Yeah that sounds like the plan, I was beginning to see which attacks were safest to approach on, just got to be careful not to slip up because this guy pounces on one error with deadly precision.I remembered when I fought him the first time it took me a couple of tries. I think what I did was I kept my distance and baited out the attacks that would let me run in and do a few hits before backing away. Once he only had a sliver of health left, I activated LW and that was that.
In terms of bosses, I think the first DLC was the hardest for me, second and third weren't as bad.
Fortunately it hasn't frustrated me yet even after 10 failed attempts.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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The Centipede boss is one of the most single hitting damaging bosses in the game. Don't worry about your defense worry about your speed. Hit and run tactics work the best on him IMO. Bait a move like the far range spear throw and run up with a run attack hit him once and repeat. It might take a bit longer but it is a sure fire way of beating him, try it.
Making progress myself. Just hit level 750 and focused all my focus level into attack. Just about to start DLC3 now.
Making progress myself. Just hit level 750 and focused all my focus level into attack. Just about to start DLC3 now.
R_thanatos
Member
started way of the demon this morning.
all this time i was in the realm of Lv 150+8 weapon and armor and now the game became something else.
i now i have to rethink my economy a lot .i don't have to worry about amrita now but OH MY GOD , my money ...i spend it all reforging stuff
i'm broke.
And Godness this difficulty delivers .... every grapple is instant death for me i just don't have enough HP. every mistake is death now , oh my god. And all those regular ennemies that get buffs now for no reason , so intense.
can someone remind me the best way to get some THOUGHNESS ? i think i'm way to low on that
all this time i was in the realm of Lv 150+8 weapon and armor and now the game became something else.
i now i have to rethink my economy a lot .i don't have to worry about amrita now but OH MY GOD , my money ...i spend it all reforging stuff
i'm broke.
And Godness this difficulty delivers .... every grapple is instant death for me i just don't have enough HP. every mistake is death now , oh my god. And all those regular ennemies that get buffs now for no reason , so intense.
can someone remind me the best way to get some THOUGHNESS ? i think i'm way to low on that
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Picked up the discounted season pass, aw yeah time to get back into some nioh action.
It's going great, I'm bombarded by new features (weapons and second spirits? Oohhh), the first area has a solid design with some new foes.
Then I reach the boss and sweet cheese and crackers this centipede armed madman hits me like a runaway freight train on crack after breaking a monitor with a picture of Sonic's shoes. Two hits is all I can take, I'm getting the pattern down but man, the difficulty spike feels unreal.
Gonna have to come back tomorrow.
What discount?
Grumplestiltskin
Member
started way of the demon this morning.
all this time i was in the realm of Lv 150+8 weapon and armor and now the game became something else.
i now i have to rethink my economy a lot .i don't have to worry about amrita now but OH MY GOD , my money ...i spend it all reforging stuff
i'm broke.
And Godness this difficulty delivers .... every grapple is instant death for me i just don't have enough HP. every mistake is death now , oh my god. And all those regular ennemies that get buffs now for no reason , so intense.
can someone remind me the best way to get some THOUGHNESS ? i think i'm way to low on that
Theres a perk on ethereal gear that boosts toughness by a percentage when above a certain ki level. You can also just get a + toughness stat on gear directly as well.
R_thanatos
Member
Theres a perk on ethereal gear that boosts toughness by a percentage when above a certain ki level. You can also just get a + toughness stat on gear directly as well.
i suppose etheral gear is the next rank after divine ? what color is it ?
i suppose etheral gear is the next rank after divine ? what color is it ?
Red.
i suppose etheral gear is the next rank after divine ? what color is it ?
The problem is that I don't think ethereals can drop until the next difficulty up (WotWise).
You can get toughness as an inheritable and soul match to put it on every item. I don't know if toughness past 200 actually does much of anything though?
R_thanatos
Member
The problem is that I don't think ethereals can drop until the next difficulty up (WotWise).
You can get toughness as an inheritable and soul match to put it on every item. I don't know if toughness past 200 actually does much of anything though?
My thougness stat is at 191 ... so i guess i need to raise my LIFE , then . (Currently at 4096 ) LIFE isn't much when some ennemies can give me 5000 in one attack lol
My thougness stat is at 191 ... so i guess i need to raise my LIFE , then . (Currently at 4096 ) LIFE isn't much when some ennemies can give me 5000 in one attack lol
Toughness at 200 allows your attacks to continue without interruption in most cases.