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November Wrasslin |OT| CM Punk's Countdown to RESPECT
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You know what gimmick was awesome and shouldn't have worked? Finlay before the Hornswoggle bullshit. Just a big, buff old dude who came out and beat the fuck out of people as a heel. He rode the line perfectly of upper mid card too. Like, he wasn't going to win the title, but he could fuck up the champion.
And that music was great.
Finlay's theme
Rey Mysterio vs Finlay No Mercy 2007
A documentary on Finlay that was uploaded last month(hour long)
Finlay Monday, I say.
And that music was great.
Finlay's theme
Rey Mysterio vs Finlay No Mercy 2007
A documentary on Finlay that was uploaded last month(hour long)
Finlay Monday, I say.
ertitoagus
Member
Not cena or ryberg in next ppv, but the Rock is waiting in RR...
Nocturnowl
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Finlay was so good, I still remember his first WWE match against Matt Hardy where they played up his inventive brawling style with him catching Hardy's baseball slide in the ring apron and later stomping his head into the steel steps, it was effective, I immediately took notice.
Best part was that Finlay was always reliable, you may not get a 5 star classic out of him but he seemed to deliver a solid match each week, I think it was Summerslam 2007 that opened with a barely built up Finlay/Kane match and once the PPV was done felt like i'd enjoyed that more than the main events.
His old music was the tits as well, then they changed it to that disgraceful jaunty cack and went out of the way to undo any of the ferocity he once had with the Hornswoggle stuff.
But i'll always have the memories, Smackdown 2006 where every episode started off with Booker and Finlay getting in a kerfuffle with Batista and Lashley leading to a tag team match playa.
As for Survivor Series, well that tag match was okay, the finish for the main event leaves the door open for an interesting development but that aside it was uneventful, i'm kind of pleased that Show retained.
Best part was that Finlay was always reliable, you may not get a 5 star classic out of him but he seemed to deliver a solid match each week, I think it was Summerslam 2007 that opened with a barely built up Finlay/Kane match and once the PPV was done felt like i'd enjoyed that more than the main events.
His old music was the tits as well, then they changed it to that disgraceful jaunty cack and went out of the way to undo any of the ferocity he once had with the Hornswoggle stuff.
But i'll always have the memories, Smackdown 2006 where every episode started off with Booker and Finlay getting in a kerfuffle with Batista and Lashley leading to a tag team match playa.
As for Survivor Series, well that tag match was okay, the finish for the main event leaves the door open for an interesting development but that aside it was uneventful, i'm kind of pleased that Show retained.
Nocturnowl
Member
Is it that time again?
NEW MUSIC!
NEW BELT!
NEW STABLE!
PIPEBOMBS!
We'll get none of this.
NEW MUSIC!
NEW BELT!
NEW STABLE!
PIPEBOMBS!
We'll get none of this.
Last stable that really worked was Evolution. But I pin that on the roster that helped guys like Orton and Batista, and having Triple H running the show, and Flair's presence in the group.
Legacy was a joke, as was Nexus, SES, and so on. Nexus had promise, but they screwed that up real fast.
Nocturnowl
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Remember when Legacy had Sim Snuka and Manu? remember the heavy breathing segment of uneasy watching? it was a legacy indeed.
You can't be excited if i'm not excited as well!
How are you not excited. ITS DEAN AMBROSE WEEK FOR REALS! We've collectively waited for this moment for nearly a year now.
Nocturnowl
Member
After all the hype can he truly deliver us and WWE itself a beverage of Ambrosia? we shall see.
At least i'm slightly interested in this Raw but I don't think my hype will return until the road to the rumble begins.
At least i'm slightly interested in this Raw but I don't think my hype will return until the road to the rumble begins.
Finlay is so weird because somehow he got better after 6 years off and the serious leg injury and in a new company where his style was rarely if ever used. And then he instantly became one of the best guys in the company who could wrestle absolutely anyone, no matter what style, talent, or experience level and pull something good-great out of them. Coming back at nearly 50 and instantly being the most respected guy on the roster was so good. I have very fond memories of him stiffing the fuck out of the WCW mid card, both pre and post disgusting mullet and mustache days. Ryback needs to work with Finlay for a few months.
I kind of do, just to see him get up and beat the fuck out of Ryback for it.
EDIT: I enjoyed the main event quite a bit. I see no reason why Ryback couldn't be capable of Ultimate Warrior at his best with proper match lay out and some better cardio. I mean, he was huffing and puffing not even 5 minutes into the match. And he hadn't even really done anything at that point besides toss Punk around once or twice. But it was pretty good. Especially when Punk and Cena went crazy just beating the shit out of Ryback on the floor, leading to the table suplex. This and the opener were pretty good. I enjoyed opening SS match a lot more than Team Foley vs Team Ziggler. Not that the main one was bad, but it was boring and I feel like it was something that could have been really great considering the talent in the ring. I did lol at Randy's "....I hate you" to Foley in the locker room.
Sheamus vs Big Show was also pretty good. It's amazing how much better in ring and out the Sheamus/Big Show feud has been compared to ADR vs Sheamus.
EDIT: I enjoyed the main event quite a bit. I see no reason why Ryback couldn't be capable of Ultimate Warrior at his best with proper match lay out and some better cardio. I mean, he was huffing and puffing not even 5 minutes into the match. And he hadn't even really done anything at that point besides toss Punk around once or twice. But it was pretty good. Especially when Punk and Cena went crazy just beating the shit out of Ryback on the floor, leading to the table suplex. This and the opener were pretty good. I enjoyed opening SS match a lot more than Team Foley vs Team Ziggler. Not that the main one was bad, but it was boring and I feel like it was something that could have been really great considering the talent in the ring. I did lol at Randy's "....I hate you" to Foley in the locker room.
Sheamus vs Big Show was also pretty good. It's amazing how much better in ring and out the Sheamus/Big Show feud has been compared to ADR vs Sheamus.
So is Dolph going to use the super kick now, or is it just a signature move of sorts for him? He does do a sleeper, and has the Zig Zag. I guess a super kick can be that "outta nowhere" move that many guys use.
For instance, http://youtu.be/fLwNTI2Cam4 - looks like the same sort of situation to last night. Different outcome, though.
re: Sheamus and Big Show
That feud has been better than any Cena-Punk-Ryback or any other WWE title BS since Daniel Bryan left it. I guess not having the heel get beat every time kind of gives it that impact.
For instance, http://youtu.be/fLwNTI2Cam4 - looks like the same sort of situation to last night. Different outcome, though.
What a move! ... fuck you Cole
re: Sheamus and Big Show
That feud has been better than any Cena-Punk-Ryback or any other WWE title BS since Daniel Bryan left it. I guess not having the heel get beat every time kind of gives it that impact.
He used it at the house show I went to, he even did the tuning up the band taunt, though he didn't hit it til later.
Also, anyone notice Punk doing this same gesture during the match:
Finlay's so good that he makes that bum Kane learn a new move.
Kane did the enziguri for years before that.
They weren't dead, HIAC was dead. They were average, really, they woke up for the two elimination matches and the WHC match certainly.
Yes, but the finish of the WHC match was pretty silly. I think Sheamus eating the pin after Big Show's shenanigans would have been the better call. Keeping it that way would have made Big Show look better for getting away with screwing Sheamus over, and Sheamus still would have had every reason to come out on Raw and ask for another shot. But the finish being the way it was didn't really do much for either guy. Instead of the heel using his heel talents to win (while leaving Sheamus an open window to have another shot and over come those odds and give Big Show his comeuppance), the face wins by DQ despite being knocked out and the heel gets his comeuppance anyway. What happened after the match should have happened after the blow off match of the feud, not in the middle of the feud.
Instead, you have the face that won the match but not the title, but was the last man standing and left the heel down and out after begging for mercy. That's usually a feud ending kind of thing, not half way point.
Instead, you have the face that won the match but not the title, but was the last man standing and left the heel down and out after begging for mercy. That's usually a feud ending kind of thing, not half way point.
Before that they only reacted to the worst part of the show though, a few cheers for AJ (and some frigging What-chants) and some moderate booing for Vickie.
I just don't get it, you're at a wrestling show, yelling and chanting is what is supposed to be the reason you go to them.
The Incarnation
Member
They'll both get jobbed out to Kofi.
The internet hated Hunter, but now Hunter is making their wet dreams come true.
Still, they took their sweet time. By all means Rollins and Ambrose should've debuted at least a year ago.
I hate HHH on screen these days, never had a problem with him as a part of management, he's far more in tune than Vince and is a wrestling fan first and a "sports entertainment" fan second.
I was so happy during the main event for the Spanish Announce Team, they finally got to keep their table instead of the US Team.
Then Ambrose and his merry band of misschief makers came and they still didn't get to keep it. I wonder if they have a clause in their contract that gives them hazard pay per destroyed table.
Then Ambrose and his merry band of misschief makers came and they still didn't get to keep it. I wonder if they have a clause in their contract that gives them hazard pay per destroyed table.
I call bullshit on that. None of these wrestlers would get a sniff of TV time if it wasn't for Punk's influence. Triple H is just Vince 2.0
You know Hunter is who got Ambrose hired, right? Punk can't even get his best friend to keep a job in the WWE, why would he be able to get Ambrose hired and debuted?
I know it's hard to believe, but not every single good thing in wrestling is the result of CM Punk's will.
Punk definitely has someone's ears, but at least some these guys were on the roster before Punk's rise to power though.
And lets face it, how could you ignore someone that cuts a promo like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLcneAyWCsg
Ooooh, I bet one McIntyre comes back they could setup 3MB vs. Ambrose/Rollins/Reigns
That'd be a fun watch at TLC
What? You make no sense, he was put through a table and he recovered in 3 minutes. Makes sense as he's supposed to be a superpowerful beast. Then he gets put through another table and a minute later CM Punk wins the match.
How does it not make sense that a second time through a table would take him at least another 3 minutes to recover? If not more due to already being put through one before that?
HHH is behind the new NXT, the tag team revival, and is the guy that hired the likes of Cesaro, Ohno, Kharma, Sin Cara, PAC, Sara Del Rey, and is behind the pushes of Sandow and others. He's most definitely not Vince 2.0.
I'm sure Punk has pushed for the likes of Ambrose, Rollins, Cesaro, definitely, but HHH facilitated their hiring and appears to be pushing for diverse signings.
He will pedigree them all tonight.
Yes, it really is.
Why do I have the doomsday feeling that Triple H is setting us up for a stable of disrespected "we don't look like bodybuilders" wrestlers, the eternal gripe of one CM Punk, only to have them all get murdered by The Ryback and John Cena (combined bench press of 950 lbs bro).
And as that happens, Triple H and Vince McMahon will both strike most muscular poses at each other, father and son, united.
And as that happens, Triple H and Vince McMahon will both strike most muscular poses at each other, father and son, united.
It is officially Dean Ambrose week.
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
Something was just off. I think it was Cena getting up and hobbling off like 10 seconds after being pinned.
The greatest night in the history of our sport....
Somebody get me a "just when I thought I was out, they pull me right back in" gif