Better profit ? Yah right. They gave away a free game as well which wasn't available on pc before I think
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NPD Sales Results for October 2015 [Up1: Xbox #1]
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Better profit ? Yah right. They gave away a free game as well which wasn't available on pc before I think
Ummm. If u are comparing niche, i think chibi robo is even nicher than both of those. Hell, isnt nippon ichi president is banking a lot on d5 selling much better on the west? After sales in jp not doing that hot?
Hero of Legend
Member
Wow, DOTNW is higher than I thought (it's FM would've been much higher than the second which still is quite a bit higher than Vesperia), and Abyss would be comparible to PS3 entries at least, again, it's a game PS2 owners in NA already played with no real additions and worse (but not by much) graphics.
So just "okay".
I think this is all correct.
I am actually quite shocked it's so low. Hope the PC version is making up for a few sales.
Kinda sad about DQ but oh well, wasn't expecting much out of that.
Bruno MB
Member
LTD Vesperia is around 15,000 units above Dawn of the New World.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Thanks Creamsugar <3
Not good numbers although Anihawk said D5 sales were good so this might be better than the previous Disgaea games.
It also opened to 22k in Japan so Disgae 5 likely sold better in NA than in Japan, not to forget the digital sales were higher than ToZ and DQH.
Hero of Legend
Member
Again comparable. This is a mainline game vs a low budget spin-off that became a low budget sequel mid-development.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
d5 season pass owners will save NIS
i bought it today
Does that include Symphonia HD collection or not?
The Last One
Member
Really? I don't think this means nothing.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
I'm not Even going to lie o don't even care zestria didn't do well after looking at star ocean 5 and playing thru zestria as i type this..theu seriously need to go back to the good ol tales of before because in my opinion, graces onward hasn't been very good
Builders will do better if SE handle it right. With these sales they might not want to bother with Heroes 2 though.
Keep in mind Abyss 3DS was severely undershipped initially. It basically sold out immediarely and exceeded Namco's expectations.
I don't see why it being a "late port" would affect sales in the west. Its still the newest Tales game that was never released here and it still came over faster than all of the other Tales games barring Vesperia. If anything this was the title they wanted to use in order to take a bigger step in the west.
I expected clear growth considering the game is on 3 platforms with it being the first game of the series on two of them. We'll see how it sells over time though.
Assuming they put out the 3DS version, no. I'd take the NX version outselling the PS4 version at this point, assuming Square actually publishes it here.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Are you talking NA or WW ?
I guess it will depend on how much they market it .
Well it did grow if you want to comapre it to TOX2 .
Also it being on 3 platforms don't mean much since the PS3 is dead in the west .
It's a direct sequel to the best selling Tales of game in the West though.Again comparable. This is a mainline game vs a low budget spin-off that became a low budget sequel mid-development.
Primethius
Banned
You're expecting the NX version to outsell the PS4 version in NA?
I mean, it might happen.
But I feel like that's a prediction being made on no data.
Hindsight, but MS should've really had a $349 Halo 5 bundle. Boost the player base. Get more people talking about the game/series.
to give some context, danganronpa had an opening month of about 13.5k and that was considered a breakout hit. in fact, a lot of atlus games regularly start off in the 13k-20k range if you're an etrian something or a soul hackers or what have you, and eventually sell north of 30,000 units to customers. this means disgaea 5 has the potential to easily clear 50k at retail. depending on how long the generation lasts, it can probably stick around through all of it and hit that 100k mark that disgaea 3 and disgaea 4 managed as well.
So NX is a success before release?
Where does the NX being a software and hardware sales powerhouse narrative come from?
The Last One
Member
There were 3 jrpgs in the same month for Ps4, the sales seens fine based on their horrible timing.
the big thing working in their favor is the nx being a handheld as well as a console. to be real, the dragon quest series only ever took off with dq viii and dq ix (with viii outselling ix). on the other hand, nintendo has built a really strong rpg userbase on the 3ds and is continuing support for dragon quest next year. the big obstacles for dqxi on nx will be release time and userbase size. based on those alone, i think the game will actually struggle to overcome whatever good will nintendo built up over the last three years with rpgs on their handheld.
Release date probably had the largest affect on sales. Tales of Xillia and Tales of Xillia 2 released in August, a much quieter release period. Releasing this close to the fall heavy hitters, and charging $60 for your game on the PS4 (they only charged $50 on the PC) was a bit crazy.
Jawbreaker
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Hey, who ushered all the Media Create stalwarts in here all of a sudden? *shakes fist*
gundamkyoukai
Member
You also got a free games on PC .
Would have be interesting to see if the PS4 owner got the same deal to see what would happen .
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
So much this what terrible timing i fear for digimon cyber sleuth in February
CosmicQueso
Member
Is the NX going to save gaming as we know it?
Infernal Monkey
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lol jesus.
Just Dance will be the Wii's very own FIFA. We'll be onto the next generation in a few years and there'll still be an original Wii version released.
We're all taking a look at how PS4 is saving Japanese developers.
Primethius
Banned
There's no doubt in my mind that the 3DS version of DQ11 will utterly dominate the PS4 version (in almost every market).
But with the NX, we know next to nothing about it. And I entirely agree with your points on the userbase and NX.
The running narrative of Nintendo fans is that the NX will be the defacto platform for Japanese games. Including all those sweet sweet Vita games that have anime girl faces for their bubbles.
Omnistalgic
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hmmm? That doesn't make much sense to me. Do you know something about the NX that we don't? It's guaranteed to be successful or something?
I look at the PS4 numbers for DQH and Zesteria I question if the people who buy those games are there.
Also, I don't have much faith in Square publishing DQ games in the west, and I fear they'd be more likely to dump it onto Sony or Nintendo because they have no faith in the brand outside of Japan.
Bruno MB
Member
Did we ever get Tales of Hearts R first month sales?
No.
PS3 Tales of Symphonia Chronicles - 42,000 [77,000 LTD June 2014]
No.
PS3 Tales of Symphonia Chronicles - 42,000 [77,000 LTD June 2014]
Disgaea 1 ended up becoming a Greatest Hits title, so I would imagine that at least that entry will remain higher (not sure about first month)
I think Tales will be fine. Steamspy might be Worldwide, but PC games aren't nearly as frontloaded as console retail. Based on Naruto Ninja Storm Revolution sales last year (which had an even slower start), I'd guess that Zestria will be in the 300k range on Steam a year from now. Even higher once its base price drops.
Add in continued retail sales, and digital sales (I have to imagine that these eventually count for a good portion of sales since Namco is always throwing Tales games into the weekly PSN sales), and I am sure you will have a large enough userbase to warrant continued localizations. Plus, I am sure those ridiculously overpriced costumes are selling to someone.
Primethius
Banned
Zesteria sales seem very much in line with what Tales typical sells here as has been pointed out.
It's really hard to judge the DQH numbers.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Tales games never sold big even during the era of PS2 .
And a spin off from a series that has not hit consoles in the west since the PS2 era .
They are people there but the numbers are small.
I mean TOZ sold 100k on PC WW.
On home system it sold 58k not count DD sales in NPD .
Which is not bad for a tales game .
Tales of Hearts R was primarily digital, with a Gamestop exclusive physical edition, so I'd imagine it's harder to get numbers.
James Scott
Banned
3DS still has a bigger install base (i think?) and it's an audience that likes RPGs and more niche japanese games so maybe? I'm not sure DQ can do that well in the west anywhere, though.
Never felt that popular
DarkLordMalik
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Chibi Robo is a side-scrolling platformer that is being released on a hardware that has history of side-scrolling platformers and a huge audience for it. It is nowhere niche except for the brand name.
Disgaea 5 has done better in West. There is no doubt now that we know the opening month sales are higher than Japan and it also charted higher digitally than ToZ (56k retail) and DQH.
So VIII has outsold IX. Thanks for the confirmation.
Disgaea 5 numbers aren't so bad if you compare to the Japan numbers. This is also the first entry in a series that is divided among a variety of platforms. Disgaea 6, if ever developed, will likely improve its numbers.
I am sure once there is a JRPG audience on PS4 like it was on PS2, we can expect better numbers. How many JRPGs have been released so far on the PS4? This was perhaps the first year with the first batch of JRPGs and there aren't even many big names. Star Ocean 5 will be big. Final Fantasy XV will be big. Kingdom Hearts will be big. These won't be released until next year.
ToZ numbers are inline with what the series has sold in the past and they are still localized so I am sure BN is not in panic mode over these sales. PC has also proved a success for them so there is no reason to assume the localization will stop.
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I think the best we could do is compare it to the DQ spinoffs and non-DW musou titles?
DQXI is not coming to the west before 2017. 3DS will be dead over here before it is localized.
Cow Goes Moo
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no one platform will suffice for dq, it's gonna rely on being multiplatform in the west (maybe japan too), steam, ps4 and 3ds/nx
it will probably be teh same for remaining Japanese properties as well
it will probably be teh same for remaining Japanese properties as well
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Add to the fact it came with an amiibo version as well