Symphonia did half a million in the US and Wii got two DQ spinoffs (Swords and Fortune Street). Or did you only mean PlayStation consoles?
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NPD Sales Results for October 2015 [Up1: Xbox #1]
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Not really. DQ fans in the west have been blue balled by Square for a long time, and this was a chance for them to show their support for it. The numbers, and the word of mouth, if you care to put any merit in it (I've heard little myself) would indicate that no, that didn't happen here.
You have DQ7/8 coming to the 3DS in the west finally, but there's no word on a publisher yet, and if it's not Square, it'd once again shows a lack of confidence in the brand from them outside of Japan.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Marketing is going to decide DQXI fate .
Yes i meant on PS systems .
sörine;185628635 said:
Yes i meant on PS systems .
James Scott
Banned
DQH seems to show what happens when you don't bother building an audience for a given platform. There hasn't been DQ anything on consoles here for a long time, at least on Sony platforms. Skipping out on localizing the games and coming back with a musou spin off is probably not the way to handle it.
I guess that's right. If it came out next year then it'd be another story but by mid-late 2017 I cant' imagine it'll fine much of an audience.
NOA/NOE are publishing DQVII, DQVIII and Bravely Second. The only 3DS game SE is publishing themselves in the west next year is FF Explorers.
Primethius
Banned
I'm not really going to judge a game with DQ in the name (which I bought btw because I do love DQ) but that plays differently then mainline DQ games by a considerable margin. If SE was using DQH to judge interest in the series or if they weren't (I'm not convinced either way), I still find the numbers hard to judge over all with no reference point.
Agree to disagree I suppose.
It won't save it but it might change it.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Show support ?
This is a musou not a rpg if you want to show supports for DQ in the USA you have to have a handheld .
Primethius
Banned
sörine;185628635 said:
Didn't Symphonia only open to about 100k in sales?
joke post?
gundamkyoukai
Member
It did 118,507 .
It was also bundle if i remember right.
Do we have LTD for any of the tales games in USA on PS2 or PS3 ?
it was, but not in the us.
Close, it was 120k. It's second month was 67k, which is higher than most other Tales first months. The game had exceptional legs though and even outsold Abyss consecutively starting from when it released in 2006.
DarkLordMalik
Member
The new strategy of Nintendo to sell software is to release an Amiibo for it. Almost every major game announcement has an Amiibo. The recently released TP HD has an Amiibo. I mean as long as they are selling (and they definitely sell well) Nintendo will keep trying to move software with them.
Dude, you do realize that the fans are waiting for an actual mainline game instead of a spin-off musou RPG hybrid. How does the lack of sales of DQH is considered a lack of support. This logic is ridiculous and I hate when anyone tries to present it as such.
We had a retail source right here in this thread saying Square Enix barely tried to market the game in West and also had their expectations in check. They didn't ship thousands of copy to retail stores in the West. They also didn't bother to spend millions on marketing it.
Read the post in question, which is from a verified source.
James Scott
Banned
It could help out japan, I'd think. Being able to make (for example) the next Tales of game on NX could allow them to release it on the portable and console without a lot of effort appealing to multiple markets while keeping costs low. Japan likely needs something competent for the next few years alongside the PS4 with no Vita successor unless a lot of them go to mobile (not many have the resources to make multiplatform titles to release worldwide like SE)
Or it can fall flat on its face and sell atrociously, who knows?
So no EFIGS and English dub for Dragon Quest Heroes 2.
It seems Zestiria is in line with how Tales generally does in North America if the sales of other Tales games are any indication.
Chibi-Robo was likely helped from being bundled with an Amiibo. Amiibos from obscure franchises generally end up as hard to find collector's items and end up getting bought up quickly. Chibi-Robo could definitely fall under that.
As for Dragon Quest Heroes, how well does the typical Musou do? Isn't like Hyrule Warriors the best Western success Musou has had and it only did like a million?
Chibi-Robo was likely helped from being bundled with an Amiibo. Amiibos from obscure franchises generally end up as hard to find collector's items and end up getting bought up quickly. Chibi-Robo could definitely fall under that.
As for Dragon Quest Heroes, how well does the typical Musou do? Isn't like Hyrule Warriors the best Western success Musou has had and it only did like a million?
gundamkyoukai
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James Scott
Banned
Hyrule Warriors is also Zelda, which is considerably more popular which doesn't make DQH seem so bad, I guess.
Bruno MB
Member
No PS2 and PSX Tales of reached Tales of Xillia first month sales. The highest one is Legendia at around 82,000 units sold.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Do you have the LTD for the PS3 ones ?
Can't seem to find any info only first month numbers .
Primethius
Banned
Does anyone know the openings for DQ games in the west? It would be nice to have a reference point (however skewed) to at least form some sort of baseline as it seems Zesteria opened to familiar numbers.
Bolivar687
Banned
IDK... does anyone feel like it was sent to die? DQHeroes looks and plays great, I have to imagine an accessible game like that could have done a bit better than it did.
I'm sure those handheld remakes will do about as much, if not less. There's a reason why Square and then later Nintendo backed away from them.
I'm sure those handheld remakes will do about as much, if not less. There's a reason why Square and then later Nintendo backed away from them.
DarkLordMalik
Member
DQ VI ~50k (from this thread?)
DQ IV ~76k in four months
Both were for DS, which was a popular handheld and the "home" of Dragon Quest as many people consider in this thread. It was also a big platform for JRPGs so there was a huge audience for it.
Best selling DQ was VIII (PS2) as per Anihawk followed by IX (DS).
We basically never get figures for mainline Musou, just not much interest.
The only things we have to compare are first months for recent spinoffs; Hyrule Warriors (190k) and One Piece Pirate Warriors 3 (15k).
Primethius
Banned
In comparison to those numbers, DQH doesn't seem too bad. Hopefully the Steam release does good. I know I'll be double dipping.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
What does Ubisoft have left to milk with AC and Just Dance flopping? Annual Watch Dogs?
neogaffer1
Banned
the main ps4 bundle was the uncharted bundle, if you went down to a gamestop or best buy to pick up a ps4 without specifically looking for any of the old bundles you were going to end up with the uncharted bundle
and with the halo 5 bundle i actually know someone who was planning to buy it but once he found out it was $500 decided to wait and get the fo4 bundle instead and bought halo 5 separate, i wouldn't be surprised if that's what a lot of people did
i would expect wash dawggies 2 to bomba, tbh, at this point. it's enough of a joke and hated enough now that i don't think anyone is going to fall for anything ubi does. even the division took too long to come out, now nobody really cares.
i think ubi might rely on far cry for a while though, until that gets worn out.
sörine;185630561 said:
Putting it into that perspective and acknowledging the relative popularity of both Zelda and One Piece in the US, Dragon Quest Heroes seems to have done okay for a Musou based on a niche gaming franchise in the West.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Bravely Default was published and marketed by Nintendo and Square Enix had nothing to do with its Western release. The game was a huge success for sure, but it was thanks to Nintendo, not Square Enix.
It sold 200k (digital+retail) in debut NPD month.
DQVI was after piracy basically destroyed the DS software market but I don't know it's first month.
Other DQ 1st NPDs:
VIII PS2 < 100k
IV DS < 50k
XI DS ~132k
The Mad Draklor
Member
*Sighs* I knew that none of the JRPGs would sell a lot, but still...
Disgaea 5 did rank pretty high in the PS Store, though. I hope SAO: Lost Song does okay.
Those Dragon Quest Heroes numbers don't seem as bad once you look at other entries in the series.
$500 bundle vs $350. Not that surprising.
Microsoft should have one for $350 as well. Missed opportunity.
Obliterator
Member
Fallout 4 opened bigger than Destiny and Skyrim in the UK.
Ya'll better get fucking ready for whats coming in November NPD
Ya'll better get fucking ready for whats coming in November NPD
gundamkyoukai
Member
FF and KH are only 2 big JRPG in the west any way .
FFXV i don't know if that game going to go over to well over here .
Oh right, I forgot about that. It will be interesting to see how Bravely Second does. Thanks for the response.
Not as well as it could have, no. Not as well as VII-R will.