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Nvidia Shield Thread
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metsallica
Member
Has there been any movement on getting non-600 series GPUs to work with Shield? I have a GTX 570 and the limitation seems arbitrary. Not ready to upgrade yet. Not really in the market for a Shield right now, but was curious.
MicroByter
Member
The main NVIDIA button in the center of the controller Brings up a menu with 3 tabs on top for (1) Shield Games, (2) Shield Store and (3) PC Games.
Anything bought through the Shield Store shows up under Shield games. The Shield store shows games that are under the Tegra zone or ones customized for Tegra processors (I believe). I'm not sure how they get classified this way because it's still bought through the Google Play store, not NVIDIA directly.
I bring this up because any game that is bought and is not in the "Tegra Store" do not show up under Shield games. Instead, there is the main standard Android home screens that these get put under. I have yet to figure out how to get these to show up under the Shield games tab.
Confused yet?
Vinsanity.
Member
Can the Shield be "rooted" like other Android devices?
DirtyLarry
Member
Thanks, that is all I needed to know. I have an Asus RT-N66U. I took the time and spent the money to make sure all other aspects of my Network were capable, was not going to skimp on a router.
The router would probably be about 6 feet away from me where I would do the majority of my playing actually. So sounds like an ideal setup.
So sounds good. Once a price drop hits, I will be picking one up. I may even not wait if they announce more supported games.
Thanks again.
EDIT - Does it support Google Play Store as well?
MicroByter
Member
Forgot about that one, will try later when I get home and report back.
No problem - and yes, Google Play is in there and it's the primary way to buy games/apps/etc.
SuperGNES works good, and the devs posted on Twitter that they have a shield and are making sure it works perfectly.
DirtyLarry
Member
So my last question, as now I am seriously considering not waiting for a price drop and possibly picking one up, is the streaming from PC better the better your GPU? I am assuming it is, only makes sense to me, but just wanted to confirm. I have a 660Ti, so I am on the lower end of GPU's that are supported, so I am wondering if this will indeed have a detrimental impact on performance, or is it more a matter of if you have a supported GPU, it will more or less work.
Again, I am assuming it does matter, and the beefier your GPU, the better your overall experience, however part of me is hoping that is not the case.
If it is indeed a matter of the better your GPU the better your performance, has any site released any benchmarks showing what types of performance to expect based on individual cards? I know other factors like CPU, network would obviously come into play, but would be curious to see someone test multiple cards on the same environment if they do indeed make a difference.
Thanks again to all those taking the time to answer. I actually preordered one when they could be preordered, but I cancelled it after pondering it some more.
Again, I am assuming it does matter, and the beefier your GPU, the better your overall experience, however part of me is hoping that is not the case.
If it is indeed a matter of the better your GPU the better your performance, has any site released any benchmarks showing what types of performance to expect based on individual cards? I know other factors like CPU, network would obviously come into play, but would be curious to see someone test multiple cards on the same environment if they do indeed make a difference.
Thanks again to all those taking the time to answer. I actually preordered one when they could be preordered, but I cancelled it after pondering it some more.
i briefly played with my new shield earlier today. after several updates (driver update, steam update, geforce experience update, and system update on the shield), it worked as described. the games in my steam library that are supported appeared in the pc games list.
i, however, wanted to see how dark souls played. i was able to start it via the steam big picture mode on the shield. i did a quick run from undead asylum through the asylum demon. the controller is solid, but i think i will need to adjust the sensitivity a bit when playing via the shield. i plan on running this character solely via the shield. i recorded a brief video for YT (that is transcoding right now) via FRAPS. i will post the link when it is done.
overall i am impressed. i will try out GTA IV and tomb raider later tonight. the screen is vibrant and the colors do no appear to be washed out with respect to my monitor. the sound is good as well (but i will be using headphones primarily).
i will post later with other impressions.
i, however, wanted to see how dark souls played. i was able to start it via the steam big picture mode on the shield. i did a quick run from undead asylum through the asylum demon. the controller is solid, but i think i will need to adjust the sensitivity a bit when playing via the shield. i plan on running this character solely via the shield. i recorded a brief video for YT (that is transcoding right now) via FRAPS. i will post the link when it is done.
overall i am impressed. i will try out GTA IV and tomb raider later tonight. the screen is vibrant and the colors do no appear to be washed out with respect to my monitor. the sound is good as well (but i will be using headphones primarily).
i will post later with other impressions.
Every game gets set to 720p before streaming so if your GPU can run on max settings at 1280x720 you should be fine.
It will work - it is just that it is not in the list of "recommended" routers. I wouldn't worry about it too much. That's no slouch of a router. I'd try it if I were you. If all else fails, I have an extra Netgear R6300 I'd let go to you for very cheap or do a trade + cash thing for your ASUS (I bought a 2nd trying to setup a mesh network here at home and it did not work out very well).
theytookourjobz
Junior Member
So any Steam game with controller support will work? Rogue Legacy? Spelunky? If so, might not be getting a Vita anytime soon.
it seems to be that way. i will be trying out both nvidia supported and unsupported games later today.
theytookourjobz
Junior Member
Awesome! Be sure to report back!
Also, where's the best place to get one? No Gamestops have any near me and newegg appears to be sold out :/
Kinda want one, but if you do tv out through the HDMI , can you do 1080p or its really locked to 720p?
And is there any way to use a mouse + keyb on it if youre using tv out?
Id want to stream my main pc to my projector in living room , would be pretty cool if thats possible in 1080 , i have an asus rt n66u so im not worried about the streaming capabilities , simply wondering if its completely limited to 720p on the screen on the shiled only , or for tv out as well.
And is there any way to use a mouse + keyb on it if youre using tv out?
Id want to stream my main pc to my projector in living room , would be pretty cool if thats possible in 1080 , i have an asus rt n66u so im not worried about the streaming capabilities , simply wondering if its completely limited to 720p on the screen on the shiled only , or for tv out as well.
Well, the system actually reconfigures itself to 720p while it streams to your Shield - so if you are in PC game streaming mode, then yes - it's going to be 720p. I am not sure if the device will do 1080p if you are in something like Netflix within Android...maybe someone else knows. I ordered a mini-HDMI to HDMI adapter so I will test it sometime in the next few days when it arrives.
Ultra Magnus
Member
I don't think that would work given that you would need to map skills to the controller and Guild Wars 2 is not a Big Picture game.
How well does it fit into your pockets?
Obviously, but I'm not taking anything for granted here, and there's been conspicuous absence of any talk regarding this, even from tech sites like Anand, and talk about stuttering framerates isn't inspiring confidence either.plagiarize said:
I'm already using a Wireless HDMI at home, which works flawlessly (but that doesn't go through a router, and sends uncompressed signals), so my expectations of what I want out of this are high as well :/
Just ordered this through the Nvidia website.
Best case scenario is awesome PC streaming in 6 months when it exits beta, worst case scenario is having a really powerful Android gaming device and a piece of history.
Living in Canada, I am really hoping that I will receive this thing soon...
Best case scenario is awesome PC streaming in 6 months when it exits beta, worst case scenario is having a really powerful Android gaming device and a piece of history.
Living in Canada, I am really hoping that I will receive this thing soon...
So does is there a confirmed list of games this works with for Steam?
Like, if I wanted to run Assassin's Creed III - would the U-Play command interface mess around with it/not launch if I wanted to play it through Steam?
I want to kind of just impulse buy- but I must know!
Whoa- Skyrim & GTA IV? I might just...
Like, if I wanted to run Assassin's Creed III - would the U-Play command interface mess around with it/not launch if I wanted to play it through Steam?
I want to kind of just impulse buy- but I must know!
Whoa- Skyrim & GTA IV? I might just...
What are the yellow and brown-ish dual LCD devices in that pic?
Edit: Nevermind, enlarged the photo and see they are Game and Watch devices. I know of them, I guess I've not seen them to recognize them.
Honest, earnest question.
What makes the shield preferrable to something like this:
except with an Android phone/device?
I've currently got Splashtop set up with my Nexus 7 (It streams your desktop to your device and lets you control your PC. They also have specific versions designed for games that make things like Civ V extremely viable on the Android device) and have found the connection to actually be pretty stellar and I was able to play twitch games (I tested Super Puzzle Platformer Deluxe on it) pretty much flawlessly.
What are the immediate benefits of shield over this that would make it more worthwhile?
What makes the shield preferrable to something like this:
except with an Android phone/device?
I've currently got Splashtop set up with my Nexus 7 (It streams your desktop to your device and lets you control your PC. They also have specific versions designed for games that make things like Civ V extremely viable on the Android device) and have found the connection to actually be pretty stellar and I was able to play twitch games (I tested Super Puzzle Platformer Deluxe on it) pretty much flawlessly.
What are the immediate benefits of shield over this that would make it more worthwhile?
The reason it's limited to Kepler is that Kepler GPUs have a h.264 encoder capable of encoding the frame-buffer to 720p video in real time without a big performance hit. So not really arbitrary.
Does this mean there's no way of downsampling from 1080p on the pc before the image is sent over? That's a shame.
I guess there's no way to order this to europe from america?
Sutton Dagger
Member
I downloaded splashtop yesterday for my ipad, the problem is I can't use the native res of the ipad cause it doesn't do full screen.
I have always wondered, do you get the source code to that "DOOMGLES" program when you buy it?
alexandros
Banned
The appropriate price is relative to features and demand. If a product is desired and is selling out at a specific price then obviously it was priced correctly. Take the WiiU for example, when it launched it wasn't considered expensive yet now, with virtually no demand, noone will touch it at the current price.
The Shield is out of the price range that I would be willing to pay for the offered features but obviously it's not for others. As a niche device targeted at people with gaming PCs it seems to be something of a hit at the moment, although we should wait for an official Nvidia announcement before drawing any conclusions.
MicroByter
Member
Had a chance to try it out last night with with 2 versions - off android store and the 2nd directly from the latest dev build from ppsspp.org.
Initially without any settings, it's a slug fest of molasses badness - frigging slow. Of course with any emu, it's the setting that go from 1fps to something more decent.
Played around and with some option tweaks and frameskip of around 2 - 3, ridge racer is freaking playable as heck! There are very few graphic anomalies and I am able to play the game just fine! The only issue with the Play store version is the lack of customization for the controls.
With the latest dev build though, there are far more options and I am able to customize any key to almost any button on the Shield.
Very impressed and now need to go find the corresponding games for the PSP ones I actually own. I'll try to grab a video of performance if anyone is interested.
Should have waited and ordered on Newegg. It's Eta is this coming Monday.
Guess that means it's selling very well.
DirtyLarry
Member
perfect. Thanks for the response.
I will order one once they are back in stock I believe.
My problem is I like stuff. Things are cool too. Especially when said stuff and things are gadgets related to gaming.
And to think....I scouring the PPSSPP forum for days now, just to find ANYONE with impressions of the Shield, and not even the devs seem to have one. Yet, here you come to the rescue, with impressions of how my FAVORITE PSP game in the world runs on the Shield. Where is the :bow: emoticon when you need it?
Anyway thanks for the good impressions man. When you talk about RR PSP can you define "freaking playable as heck"...? I mean, are we talking 60fps here or more like 30? Also, can you try Disgaea and any other RPG you can think of?