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ODIN SPHERE (Atlus/Vanillaware) thread of Unlimited Awesome (MUST SEE)
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dermannmitdemcolt
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so, how is the writing? is the plot worth noting?
teruterubozu
Member
duckroll said:
Wait until
Book 6
You have to fight a bunch of bosses in 6, but none of your characters will be strong enough or have enough items so you have to start each Book FROM SCRATCH. It's a reaaaaalllly cheap way to "extend" the game.
Question about difficulty
I tend to prefer higher difficulties, but only if the game supports them well, and they're genuinely challenging, and not just lame pain in the ass unfun increases in monster hp/damage/etc
So, anyone playing on 3 stars, how does it feel? Is 1 the default? How's 2?
I tend to prefer higher difficulties, but only if the game supports them well, and they're genuinely challenging, and not just lame pain in the ass unfun increases in monster hp/damage/etc
So, anyone playing on 3 stars, how does it feel? Is 1 the default? How's 2?
teruterubozu
Member
I played on 2 stars and it's pretty challenging.
Some boss battles (and some five star areas) will take many, many tries.
It's not like it's super cheap or anything, but yeah, I've had moments when I felt like throwing my controller against the wall.
No widescreen or 480p support.
Some boss battles (and some five star areas) will take many, many tries.
It's not like it's super cheap or anything, but yeah, I've had moments when I felt like throwing my controller against the wall.
No widescreen or 480p support.
â Narayan
Member
Reading these impressions makes me giddy. I can't wait! 
Ah, I just finished chapter 2... that part where it teaches you to mix materials was a big WTF. Man, the numbers go so high
Currently Level 14/12, and chapter 2's boss wasn't so tricky as a result.
One complaint I have... when you beat a boss boss, you lose any items you had on the field because you go straight to a cut scene. Just lost a couple of precious seeds thanks to that
Currently Level 14/12, and chapter 2's boss wasn't so tricky as a result.
One complaint I have... when you beat a boss boss, you lose any items you had on the field because you go straight to a cut scene. Just lost a couple of precious seeds thanks to that
teruterubozu
Member
Yeah, don't drop anything!
Don't worry though, there are so many seeds in this game. You'll eventually start to get rid of them just to clear inventory.
Don't worry though, there are so many seeds in this game. You'll eventually start to get rid of them just to clear inventory.
â Narayan
Member
I just ordered some PS2 component cables. They should arrive before Odin Sphere. THE CLARITY SHOULD BE ORGASMIC.
Jonnyram said:You are levelling your HP, aren't you? I love that seed that takes 8 phozon to grow. Then you eat the fruit (twice) and plant the seed again
I didn't care about EXP that much... generally I rely on Heal medicine (HP+200) and Pain Killer medicine.
I think this is a very long game...maybe it takes 70 to 80 hours for me to beat it.
teruterubozu
Member
Cedille said:
Yeah that's about right 50 + hours to get through 5 Books. Then you have to kind of start from scratch to get prepped for the finale, so maybe an additional 5-10 hours.
Heal on the battlefield to survive and eat at the restaurants to increase HP - that's the way I do it.
MidgarBlowedUp
Member
I'm guessing no one but me has the Xploder HDTV disk for PS2 right?
I hope it works with the game.
If it does, and renders the proper 4:3 ratio, I'll let everyone know.
I hope it works with the game.
If it does, and renders the proper 4:3 ratio, I'll let everyone know.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
game is loads of fun, but its one of those games that makes me really very frustrated when i get to a hard part.
SlaughterX
Banned
chatgris said:
I heard it's going to support widescreen but not PS.
Okay, I cleared Chapter 3 after some major setbacks. The boss was giving me tons of trouble because he kept baiting me into not following his patterns to try and deal more damage, only to pwn me again and again. So I restarted the entire chapter retaining my stats and did it over again making better items and using what I learnt about the enemies to progress much faster. This enabled me to get to the boss well prepared and with full health instead of just barely making it through like the last time. The extra level I gained helped too, so I managed to win.
Here are some more thoughts:
- The game really remains me A LOT of a Genesis-era game in terms of animation detail, difficulty and balance.
- You deal a good amount of damage but the enemies do too.
- Evading will save your ass much more than mashing things through.
- Whenever I die (and that's quite often, but getting lesser now) I do feel it's my fault, even if I'm annoyed a little at times.
- Boss patterns rock. They've obvious, well presented, the attacks look cool and it's challenging.
- Items make or break you in the game. Unless you're an uber-skilled player who can perfectly time every single attack and evade everything the enemies throw at you, you're going to need to dig deeper into the item system to leverage the challenge.
- Kamitani wasn't kidding when he said the plot was very much based on Wagner's Ring Cycle.
Here are some more thoughts:
- The game really remains me A LOT of a Genesis-era game in terms of animation detail, difficulty and balance.
- You deal a good amount of damage but the enemies do too.
- Evading will save your ass much more than mashing things through.
- Whenever I die (and that's quite often, but getting lesser now) I do feel it's my fault, even if I'm annoyed a little at times.
- Boss patterns rock. They've obvious, well presented, the attacks look cool and it's challenging.
- Items make or break you in the game. Unless you're an uber-skilled player who can perfectly time every single attack and evade everything the enemies throw at you, you're going to need to dig deeper into the item system to leverage the challenge.
- Kamitani wasn't kidding when he said the plot was very much based on Wagner's Ring Cycle.
Finally got the Odin Sphere rolling, and it is pretty damn great. Only at Chapter 3 myself and I don't have anything to add that hasn't been said already, but I do want to reiterate that the loading time thing is a TOTAL NON-ISSUE. As duckroll said, three seconds is about the max and when you move from area to area within a stage it's more like one second. The load times are absolutely in line with PS2 standards and whatever reviewer mentioned that is dumb or needs to clean the laser on their PS2.
And the slowdown? Believe me, it's a gift. I wish there was more of it!
And the slowdown? Believe me, it's a gift. I wish there was more of it!
rollingstart
Banned
quick question, does the game use rumble a lot? Im wondering if I should use my PS3 controller or if I should go out and buy a PS2 controller converter
ThirstyFly
Member
Can anyone tell me how large the save file is?
I have 2 memory cards and am running out on space on the last and I'd like to make it to the end of my PS2's life without having to buy another one.
I have 2 memory cards and am running out on space on the last and I'd like to make it to the end of my PS2's life without having to buy another one.
ThirstyFly said:
200kb per save.
Man, I'm here scanning select pages of the artbook for you guys at a friend's place and I brought my slim PS2 with Grim Grimoire and Odin Sphere so my friend could check them out. He found Grim Grimoire really pretty but he's not convinced about RTS on controllers, he's mostly a PC gamer. He's really enjoying Odin Sphere though. He's at the forest in chapter 2 now, and will probably finish it before I leave. Almost done scanning (sorry but I'm not scanning the entire book, just about 20 pages or so of nice stuff).
ThirstyFly
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duckroll said:
Great, thanks. I think I have around 1,000kb left so I'm good
AgentOtaku
Member
wow...two Atlus buys this month (Etrian O.)....this is crazyland!
Jugendstil
Member
I still need to head to Gamestop and pre-order this. I am so excited for it, Princess Crown was one of the first games I imported back in the day. Things have changed so much, back then I never would have believed a game like this would be released in the US and with such a fantastic localization.
Gave this a shot and played through chapter 1.
Eh...it's a good game and everyone should like it. But it's not my cup of tea and I think I'll just backlog it and play other stuff for now. It's not really rpg enough to satisfy my rpg-cravings, the controls aren't responsive enough to satisfy my action game cravings (compared to say the 2d Tales games), and it's just sorta stuck in a unique original game genre that's a bit a everything but for my personal tastes not enough of anything.
Nice 2d (if you like the artstyle), nice music, interesting battle mechanics, etc... but I think everyone else has covered that already.
Camera is too close for boss fights and it's annoying that you have to be in there face to see what move they are about to do (or risk getting hit by an off-screen attack you didn't see), blocking being the same button as a attack is kinda a bad choice, and not really a fan of exit being up+circle as if you're not RIGHT on the exit it just brings up the item menu.
Also not being able to skip ahead in dialogue is lame. I always skip through NPC dialogue because I don't want to sit and wait for them to speak it sloowly. But here it's either all or CANCEL with X. :\
Eh...it's a good game and everyone should like it. But it's not my cup of tea and I think I'll just backlog it and play other stuff for now. It's not really rpg enough to satisfy my rpg-cravings, the controls aren't responsive enough to satisfy my action game cravings (compared to say the 2d Tales games), and it's just sorta stuck in a unique original game genre that's a bit a everything but for my personal tastes not enough of anything.
Nice 2d (if you like the artstyle), nice music, interesting battle mechanics, etc... but I think everyone else has covered that already.
Camera is too close for boss fights and it's annoying that you have to be in there face to see what move they are about to do (or risk getting hit by an off-screen attack you didn't see), blocking being the same button as a attack is kinda a bad choice, and not really a fan of exit being up+circle as if you're not RIGHT on the exit it just brings up the item menu.
Also not being able to skip ahead in dialogue is lame. I always skip through NPC dialogue because I don't want to sit and wait for them to speak it sloowly. But here it's either all or CANCEL with X. :\
SentientStone
Member
Just for reassurance, the North American version does indeed come with both English and Japanese vocal tracks, correct?
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Leshita said:Just for reassurance, the North American version does indeed come with both English and Japanese vocal tracks, correct?
yes, confirmed, and thank you Atlus and Vanillaware
Man, the game's really getting even more awesome. I started Chapter 6 and before I even did anything I had this craving to try out the new recipes I got in the previous chapter. So I hit the cafe and kitchen, and ate what I could. But that wasn't enough for me. Not only did I -DESIRE- for certain dishes, but they had really attractive HP exp offerings too. So I ran out into the snowy mountains again, and grew pretty much ALL the seeds I had into fruits. I went back and just keep eating at the cafe and gained like 3-4 HP levels. Yummmmm.
I actually started Chapter 6 now and it's interesting how you can still get pwned if you're not careful. The different in max HP and weapon level do matter though, since dealing more damage means you finish battles quicker if you don't screw up. I wonder how long more the first book is going to be though, I've already sunk in close to 8 hours and it's still not done, great length, and it doesn't feel boring for a single moment. ^_^
I actually started Chapter 6 now and it's interesting how you can still get pwned if you're not careful. The different in max HP and weapon level do matter though, since dealing more damage means you finish battles quicker if you don't screw up. I wonder how long more the first book is going to be though, I've already sunk in close to 8 hours and it's still not done, great length, and it doesn't feel boring for a single moment. ^_^
MidgarBlowedUp
Member
Takuhi said:
That was the 1up guys, but they were playing unfinished builds. It's really great to hear that load times are fine, now I just need to know if the Blaze HDTVXploder disk will allow me to run Odin Sphere in 480p
duckroll said:Man, the game's really getting even more awesome. I started Chapter 6 and before I even did anything I had this craving to try out the new recipes I got in the previous chapter. So I hit the cafe and kitchen, and ate what I could. But that wasn't enough for me. Not only did I -DESIRE- for certain dishes, but they had really attractive HP exp offerings too. So I ran out into the snowy mountains again, and grew pretty much ALL the seeds I had into fruits. I went back and just keep eating at the cafe and gained like 3-4 HP levels. Yummmmm.
I actually started Chapter 6 now and it's interesting how you can still get pwned if you're not careful. The different in max HP and weapon level do matter though, since dealing more damage means you finish battles quicker if you don't screw up. I wonder how long more the first book is going to be though, I've already sunk in close to 8 hours and it's still not done, great length, and it doesn't feel boring for a single moment. ^_^
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MidgarBlowedUp said:
I think its that the load-times are hidden very well; due to the "round map"; the back-grounds are identically and doesn't need to be loaded going from area to area. Also, you have to wait several seconds for the enemy to show up when you enter a new area; likely this period is used to load. Overall, its a solid experience and the load-times, while existent, aren't terribly intrusive.
TrueReligion
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I can't wait to pick this up.
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