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[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

i wonder if amazon will ever become a publisher in the gaming world, either way i love amazon dont use twitch though so i hope it turns out well for everybody

 

[Tempy]

"Buy this game now on Amazon" under every video. Fun!

 

[Haunted]

I was trying to state that I still think Hitbox is looking like the better option right now. My change is still justified.

Ah, gotcha. I misunderstood. And yeah, I agree.

I will laugh my ass off if Google ends up buying Hitbox (or a similar website) because of this.

Ha! Now that'd be something.

 

[Eggbok]

...You don't trust Twitch and Amazon to accurately announce the acquisition deal?

They both officially announced it. What are they, lying now?

I completely trust them lol!
How often do you see a receipt for 970 million though? ;p

 

[Syf]

Much happier with Amazon than Google. Sounds like they're going to be allowed to stay mostly independent while having the support to improve. I like it!

 

[waitwhat42]

Amazon is serious about gaming. Twitch is the future of... something. I just started getting into Twitch through curiously checking out Live from PlayStation, that quickly became signing up on Twitch and chatting with random streamers.

There are some great personalities streaming, and checking out streams and talking the person playing the game is more informative than game reviews.

 

[Vlade]

I think I would've prefered Google for my precious Twitch, but even more than that I'm confused.

 

[Castcoder]

Given that Amazon has their MP3 store front, could they allow music that is available on their store to pass through the censors as part of this? Songs not on the store aren't allowed or something? Yes? Please?

 

[coughlanio]

So, it seems like Amazon were the ones that requested Twitch to implement a Content ID system.

Makes sense, Twitch having such a large backing would have the MPAA paint a target its back. Now, give me curated Twitch content on Amazon video game product pages and I'll be happy.

I guess we'll see referral links on streams now, giving the streamer the referral fee?

 

[Philippo]

Wait, cash? Like physical money? Did Amazon went to Twitch with 20 trucks full of money?

 

[Mr. Desu]

Ah, gotcha. I misunderstood. And yeah, I agree.

All good, just the way I like to convey things. I've been using Hitbox since the VOD changes, and I honestly just think that it's the better service overall.

 

[roytheone]

Hmm, this is surprising to say the least. I wonder if all the people that posted " fuck you Google!" Kind of posts in the thread about the twitch changes will admit their mistake.

 

[BeEatNU]

Honestly, I feel better about Amazon acquiring Twitch over Google.

Hopefully Amazon Prime members can have an ad-free experience, haha.

and no delay between comments and video would be nice lol

 

[CountAntonius]

Why the Google deal fell through.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2014/08/25/amazon-pounces-on-twitch-after-google-balks-due-to-antitrust-concerns/?utm_campaign=techtwittersf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Google was unable to close the deal, said sources familiar with the talks, because it was concerned about potential antitrust issues that could have come with the acquisition. The Mountain View, Calif. company already owns YouTube, the world’s most-visited content streaming site, which competes with Twitch to broadcast and stream live or on-demand video game sessions. One source noted that because of the concerns, Google and Twitch could not come to an agreement on the size of a potential breakup fee in case the deal did not go through.

 

[Sandfox]

Given that Amazon has their MP3 store front, could they allow music that is available on their store to pass through the censors as part of this? Songs not on the store aren't allowed or something? Yes? Please?

That's not really the same thing. Amazon selling MP3's has nothing to do with copyright concerns.

 

[BronsonLee]

Given that Amazon has their MP3 store front, could they allow music that is available on their store to pass through the censors as part of this? Songs not on the store aren't allowed or something? Yes? Please?

This isn't going to happen. Someone else will explain why.

Edit: Sandfox did already.

 

[ANuclearError]

Make it a referral programme for every streamer, they get royalties from each purchase. Doesn't sound that bad to me so long as it's not obnoxious.

 

[Heroman]

Given that Amazon has their MP3 store front, could they allow music that is available on their store to pass through the censors as part of this? Songs not on the store aren't allowed or something? Yes? Please?

No, they cant do that.

 

[jblank83]

I'm fine with this, much more fine than I would have been if Google bought Twitch. I don't hate Google, but what they've done with Youtube has been infuriating. Meanwhile, Amazon has done right by every business they've put their hands in.

 

[Patryn]

Given that Amazon has their MP3 store front, could they allow music that is available on their store to pass through the censors as part of this? Songs not on the store aren't allowed or something? Yes? Please?

Unless those artists are being compensated in some other fashion, it doesn't matter that they're on the storefront.

Although... Prime members get access to unmuted streams? In that case, Prime members do have unlimited music streaming.

 

[BraXzy]

That M. Night Shamalamadingdong twist though.

 

[MikeE21286]

Doesn't seem to fit with strategic imperatives of Amazon.

Smells moreso like them sticking one to Google....

 

[Orayn]

Given that Amazon has their MP3 store front, could they allow music that is available on their store to pass through the censors as part of this? Songs not on the store aren't allowed or something? Yes? Please?

Last I heard, Twitch was exploring their options regarding multiple audio streams and Amazon's connections will probably be helpful if they go forward with that.

But no, it won't be a simple solution like you're describing.

 

[marrec]

I'm not as convinced that Amazon is going to be any better... But they have the infrastructure to make it better than it is now at least.

 

[Mooreberg]

But Google can't have an avenue into your life unless you give them permission.

You sir, are keenly unaware of the many benefits that elegant head wear constructed entirely of tin foil can provide.

 

[Heroman]

Unless those artists are being compensated in some other fashion, it doesn't matter that they're on the storefront.

Although... Prime members get access to unmuted streams?

I cant see that happening, unless amazon is paying the company for the right of using their music during streams.

 

[Cipherr]

Given that Amazon has their MP3 store front, could they allow music that is available on their store to pass through the censors as part of this? Songs not on the store aren't allowed or something? Yes? Please?

No. Google has their own store front for music also through Play Music and that changes nothing.

 

[Emperor Bohe]

roll back vod changes and turn off the shitty audio recognition algorithm pls

Please

 

[C.Dark.DN]

I'm on the verge of not supporting Amazon anymore. Not because of this. Personal issues. Working conditions and shipping quality.

But, to seperate myself from that, this seems like Twitch can keep more independance. So, that's good.

 

[Patryn]

I cant see that happening, unless amazon is paying the company for their.

As I edited in, Prime offers unlimited music streaming.

 

[Xeroblade]

How does this affect the people who left to Hitbox? It is not like they would have gotten money out of this had they stayed...
This doesn't change any of twitch's new implementations as well. In fact, we don't know what Amazon will want changed with it yet.



Got the opposite meaning out of that. Heh

I mean you're right but lets just be honest, who is watching people on hitbox anyways when the more known streamers are still on Twitch because of their fans?

 

[notworksafe]

I'm not as convinced that Amazon is going to be any better... But they have the infrastructure to make it better than it is now at least.

Amazon did wonders for Comixology, after all.

 

[wsippel]

Amazon or Google, pestilence or cholera. The Twitch founders won (and are laughing all the way to the bank), everybody else lost - and would have lost regardless. Though Amazon buying Twitch is probably pretty much the worst outcome imaginable, almost as bad as Tencent, EA, Ubisoft or Activision buying Twitch.

 

[robotrock]

holy shit

 

[PachinkoChampBruh]

amazon next fire tv to have built-in streaming confirmed.

 

[LuchaShaq]

So glad its not google.

YouTube/Twitch would be a gaming video monopoly.

Google has shown time and time again they don't care about false copyright claims/false positives on YouTube. They simply are incompetent in this regard.

 

[PerezDeCorcho]

Didn't see that one coming

wut

 

[TxdoHawk]

Twitch is probably doomed no matter the buyer, to be honest. I don't see how they are going to grow bigger, deal with the insane bandwidth/hardware requirements for doing so, and still turn a profit without pissing off their already-riled fanbase. Mere advertising isn't likely to sustain the kind of costs they will incur.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I'd love to know the logic behind your post.

Twitch is huge and only really set to grow. eSports is gaining huge ground with consoles now having built in to twitch streaming and MOBA's being the phenomenon they are.

We now have more live streams for panels and conferences than at any other time and the vast majority of those are watched and broadcast from twitch.

It's difficult to monetize in it's current format but it's a dream advertising space and with a few tweaks it could sustain a premium service that offers higher quality streams or exclusive video content.

Hell it could even expand to be a source of gaming trailers, exclusive content and reviews like Gametrailers.

It's got so much potential.

If Amazon starts trying to charge to watch Twitch they will kill it immediately. Part of Twitch's success, and YouTube's, is that it's free to watch.

Beyond that they can plaster it with ads but really no one thinks that's going to be a huge moneymaker. YouTube isn't a huge profit driver for Google despite being the biggest free video streaming site on Earth.

Monetizing free without killing interest is no walk in the park, just look at Facebook's struggles in making money consistently. Sheer traffic is no guarantee of future profits, especially on the Internet.

 

[jyoung188]

Holy shit.

 

[OriginalThinking]

Please

Never going to happen. They should improve it, but content ID is here to stay. Don't blame Amazon, Twitch or Google. This is the music industries doing. Unless you want lawyers swarming you left, right and center it's a necessary evil.

 

[Digital-Hero]

And still not enough to buy Twitch, lol Sorry Floyd.

 

[DeadManWalking]

I hope amazon knows what they are doing.

 

[LuchaShaq]

Never going to happen. They should improve it, but content ID is here to stay. Don't blame Amazon, Twitch or Google. This is the music industries doing. Unless you want lawyers swarming you left, right and center it's a necessary evil.

Not in its current broken state.

 

[davepoobond]

So twitch will be amazons YouTube?

 

[DiscoShark]

Tomorrow

Google buys Amazon.

 

[Lotto]

This makes me feel slightly more comfortable.

 

[Daviii]

It's true that Google would have had many problems (Mainly EU) if they had bought this service.

 

[Jigorath]

Well at least it's not Google.

 

[Artanisix]

Im okay with this