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[maniac-kun]

Have you watched the interview? they said no more secrets after GDC, everything will be revealed.

http://schedule2013.gdconf.com/session-id/824166

Photorealism Through the Eyes of a FOX: The Core of Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes (Presented by Kojima Productions)

Hideo Kojima | Corporate Officer (EVP), Contents Officer, Director of Kojima Productions, Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
Hideki Sasaki | CG Art Director, Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
Masayuki Suzuki | Lighting Artist, Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
Junji Tago | Technical Director, Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.

Join Hideo Kojima and the Kojima Productions staff as they demonstrate and explain the workflow and development process of Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes on the Fox Engine. This session will mainly cover the key components and unique methods Kojima Productions utilizes in the graphics arena to create visuals seen in METAL GEAR SOLID GROUND ZEROES. Participants can expect an overview of topics such as asset creation and rendering techniques used in the next METAL GEAR SOLID. Enjoy the session as Kojima Productions unveils the FOX Engine for the first time.

 

[Ace Harding]

Have you watched the interview? they said no more secrets after GDC, everything will be revealed.

Yes, except if you watch that closely, he half-winks as he says that.

Edit: around 2:10, after he says "yes"

 

[stktt]

We're guaranteed another 3 months of this teasing aren't we, right up to E3

Wait until 4chan posts a rumor that E3 was actually rendered in the Fox engine.

 

[BigBoss]

 

[Hindle]

Have you watched the interview? they said no more secrets after GDC, everything will be revealed.

Oh I'm not sure lol. This is Kojima.

 

[TheNamelessOne]

So to sum it all up.

Joakim Mogren is the made-up computer animated swedish boss of the made-up swedish studio Moby Dick Studios, who really is not swedish at all but played by a voice actor that mistakenly (or deliberately?) uses a norwegian accent and also Moby Dick Studios is really just a front for Hideo Kojimas development and also Joakim Mogren is an anagram for Hideo Kojimas.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

I don't know who that actor is, but he fucking nailed the look.

 

[Persona86]

Dude, what if ALL of the MGS series was CG all along!!!

 

[flippedb]

I don't know who that actor is, but he fucking nailed the look.

Really?

 

[Dresden]

We're all Joakim Mogren.

 

[gunstarhero]

U cant CG me

My vote is totally CG - he should have had his head explode in random geometry at the end.

 

[Takuya]

I'm leaning towards:


- Real actor (body, etc.)

- CG head

That weird shadow glitch just doesn't make sense, and the previous hypothesis about "green screening" doesn't hold any water since the backdrop is an LCD TV as we can see if this "picture" taken of him.

 

[Duane Cunningham]

Really?

He's right. If they ever make a Metal Gear movie, they should get whoever that is to star (if he can act).

 

[flippedb]

He's right. If they ever make a Metal Gear movie, they should get whoever that is to star (if he can act).

I can't understand sarcasm anymore.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

You realize that the some of same people who get hired for Hollywood CGI get hired for game companies too. You also should realize that CG is always evolving and anyone can take it to the next level.

What I find funny is people saying: "Oh look at the face mask it doesn't move like a material, it sticks!" Which is funny because elastic medical bandages wrapped around tightly do just that - stick, because that's their purpose. Saying it doesn't behave realistically shows no experience with them or loss of memory.

 

[SapientWolf]

So to sum it all up.

Joakim Mogren is the made-up computer animated swedish boss of the made-up swedish studio Moby Dick Studios, who really is not swedish at all but played by a voice actor that mistakenly (or deliberately?) uses a norwegian accent and also Moby Dick Studios is really just a front for Hideo Kojimas development and also Joakim Mogren is an anagram for Hideo Kojimas.

Sounds like the plot of an MGS game, to be honest.

 

[Goon Boon]

What I find funny is people saying: "Oh look at the face mask it doesn't move like a material, it sticks!" Which is funny because elastic medical bandages wrapped around tightly do just that - stick, because that's their purpose. Saying it doesn't behave realistically shows no experience with them or loss of memory.

Logically we need a gaffer to redo the Joakim part of the video with medical tape on as close as possible for comparison purposes.

 

[Stark]

I'm leaning towards:


- Real actor (body, etc.)

- CG head

That weird shadow glitch just doesn't make sense, and the previous hypothesis about "green screening" doesn't hold any water since the backdrop is an LCD TV as we can see if this "picture" taken of him.

Some weird movement with his shirt left side by his neck. Or is that the shadow thing you're talking about? Dunno if a shirt moves like that though.

 

[robot]

oh thats some real lawnmower man shit right there!

that ending is hysterical. he so CG. gg gaf forensics!

 

[Ace Harding]

I'm leaning towards:


- Real actor (body, etc.)

- CG head


http://i.imgur.com/JAfMZjM.gif


That [B]weird shadow glitch[/B] just doesn't make sense, and the previous hypothesis about "green screening" doesn't hold any water since the backdrop is an LCD TV as we can see if this "picture" taken of him.[/QUOTE]

Pretty sure that "glitch" is in the gif only, not the actual video.

Despite that, BELIEVE

 

[NoirVisage]

Some weird movement with his shirt left side by his neck. Or is that the shadow thing you're talking about? Dunno if a shirt moves like that though.

GOOD EYE!

 

[The One Who Knocks]

He's right. If they ever make a Metal Gear movie, they should get whoever that is to star (if he can act).

I'm not quite sure if you're being sarcastic but if you're not the picture is more impressive to me than it was previously.

Spoiler

That's a Fox Engine model/demonstration.

 

[Fried Food]

Err no. I know that twitter account and it's just a troll.

Can you prove that? Joakim wasn't being discussed back in december.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

Really?

Dude, he looks exactly like Big Boss.

 

[jaypah]

But seriously, why don't his lower eyelids move? Real, CG, whatever, it's just fucking creepy.

 

[maniac-kun]

also: realistic horses

 

[Krusenstern]

Some weird movement with his shirt left side by his neck. Or is that the shadow thing you're talking about? Dunno if a shirt moves like that though.

Ok, now I'm starting to believe this CG stuff.

 

[Fried Food]

GOOD EYE!

I think that's legit. The point of movement is spreadout over a wide enough area that I can picture a shirt doing that depending on where the pull is taking place and how much force is being applied.

 

[Persona86]

Logically we need a gaffer to redo the Joakim part of the video with medical tape on as close as possible for comparison purposes.

I would do it.....for cash.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

But seriously, why don't his lower eyelids move? Real, CG, whatever, it's just fucking creepy.

Yeah, Geoff looks fucking weird.

 

[XANDER CAGE]

maybe the shadow flickers because the light does

I'm just saying

 

[Åesop]

Damn.. Sorry guys, Viacom blocked my video that you embedded all over GAF how can I bypass things like that?? I already used a mirror effect..

 

[Persona86]

I showed this video to my brother and after when I told him some people think it might be CG he said "I actually thought it was CG at the beginning" which is weird since he has no idea such a theory or this thread existed.

The power of the subconscious mind?

The mind knows somethings not right here.

 

[TheNamelessOne]

maybe the shadow flickers because the light does

I'm just saying

Oh quiet you.

 

[BluePigGanon]

I'm reading this whole thread with the "not sure if serious" face.

 

[Sephzilla]

Y'know, if this was CG, those little things you guys are picking up on would probably the type of things Kojima would throw in just to give you the hint it's CG.

 

[friskykillface]

i saw the interview and holy shit lol, this is amazing

what a build up its making for the game.


i laughed at his eyes at the end, lmao oh Kojima please do more of this

 

[NoirVisage]

I showed this video to my brother and after when I told him some people think it might be CG he said "I actually thought it was CG at the beginning" which is weird since he has no idea such a theory or this thread existed.

The power of the subconscious mind?

The mind knows somethings not right here.

uncanny valley, too many oddities in both movement and expression

 

[Graphics Horse]

Can you prove that? Joakim wasn't being discussed back in december.

you have some catching up to do.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=503254

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=45186549

 

[javac]

If its not CG

Spoiler

it is

then it's Sakurai for sure. Sounds just like him. His eyes were twitching due to all the work on SSB4.

 

[benny_a]

I showed this video to my brother and after when I told him some people think it might be CG he said "I actually thought it was CG at the beginning" which is weird since he has no idea such a theory or this thread existed.

The power of the subconscious mind?

The mind knows somethings not right here.

You know how sometimes you have to play along to the crazy serial killer to not die?

 

[Persona86]

You know how sometimes you have to play along to the crazy serial killer to not die?

*Adds Benny to the list*

 

[R1CHO]

If its not CG

Spoiler

it is

then it's Sakurai for sure. Sounds just like him. His eyes were twitching due to all the work on SSB4.

lol poor guy.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

I'm not calling it one way or another, but in case this hasn't been mentioned in this thread, this is the same company who made faces like this back on PS2:

so there's no doubting they know their stuff..

 

[SOLDIER]

Someone please photoshop a transparent skull over Joachim's face, ala MGS2.

 

[.:Wesker:.]

Pretty sure that "glitch" is in the gif only, not the actual video.

Despite that, BELIEVE

Actually it does happen in the actual video. A flickering light wouldn't cause it either.

Oh god. Now I'm getting into this too.

 

[XANDER CAGE]

I'm not calling it one way or another, but in case this hasn't been mentioned in this thread, this is the same company who made faces like this back on PS2:

so there's no doubting they know their stuff..

Kojima had nothing to do with Silent Hill 3.

 

[Sinatar]

Some weird movement with his shirt left side by his neck. Or is that the shadow thing you're talking about? Dunno if a shirt moves like that though.

It's cause there is a microphone pinned to it.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

Kojima had nothing to do with Silent Hill 3.

just meant Konami as a whole. there are clearly some talented facial artists working for the company.

 

[synce]

also: realistic horses

Kojima is a Twin Peaks fan I take it?

Also to the CG theorists, why would they go through the trouble of a CG interview when they can hire anyone off the street and bandage up their head? It's such a ridiculous waste of resources