Exactly. You never know what could happen after they manage to start the payload.
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Exactly. You never know what could happen after they manage to start the payload.
yes, they had a pharah and a genji.
sure, they destroyed my turrets a few times. Doesn't really matter when I can build a new one in 5 secs or just ult and get it to level 3 with a shitton of hp
It really is. No competetive game was ever balanced around noobs.
GwyndolinCinder
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Nailed it
Dead Prince
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just bought 2 $10 loot boxes.
lol
lol. last POTG i got with winston just had me running around like an idiot. lol.
lol
lol. last POTG i got with winston just had me running around like an idiot. lol.
orthodoxy1095
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Isn't it like 75% for like 10+ matches after leaving twice? That's pretty solid to me. Could be a higher percent but the length seems decent.
I'm not the person who originally posted, but I've been playing Tjorb too, and you can do relatively well with Tjorb against even decent players because 99% Tjorb's are playing like TF2 pub engies who sit behind turret in one spot and keep hammering it.
Perhaps the person is playing Tjorb right ie: Putting up a turret and leaving it there while flanking/rushing the enemy with the turret backing up your 275 HP armored body. Frequent turret placement changes and molten core during pushes can easily confuse and stomp even decent players.
Tjorb is good at many MMRs, just not that great at the scrim/tourney level it seems like. Seagull's been using him in pubs with success.
IMO Hanzo/Widows shit on Tjorb and Bastion but if you're smart as Tjorb you can manage to not pigeonhole yourself into one corner and keep getting your turret 2-shotted.
packy34
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I guess the only kinds of players that exist are either pro players or noobs. No middle ground at all!
I can understand this view, but I think there's a balance to be had. Some issues:
- It's a completely different genre and game, but take Street Fighter V for an example. It plays great online for most people, it's pretty balanced, and it's highly competitive. It's NOT friendly for average casual players, though. Overwatch is supposed to be a longterm game that works for both casual masses and competitive eSports players, correct? So it's important for Blizzard to keep casual players having fun so they'll continue to support the game (microtransactions or otherwise) and queue times will stay low.
- Pro play means that everyone is communicating, everyone probably has mics, there's possibly an established boss player coordinating, and everyone is experienced with the game. In particular this can create a balance mismatch. Imagine dwarf turrets are balanced against pro coordination. In a casual game, 5 dwarf turrets + reinhardt may be POSSIBLE to take out with coordination, but very frustrating and not fun. Imagine TF2 with 4+ stacked engineers. You can take them out with careful uber demo timing, but it's just a huge pain and no one has fun. Is this a good balance plan -- frustration and lack of fun, since that level of coordination is very unlikely in quick play?
- Some people simply don't have time to become highly experienced because of children, jobs, etc. Blizzard presumably still wants these players to have fun and not just abandon the game.
For reasons like these, I think it's important for Blizzard to strike a balance -- supporting eSports and a competitive ladder, but also keeping quick play queue times reasonable and keeping people having fun. After all, fun is what attracts new players, finances microtransactions, and keeps people going.
I could see a sort of middle ground between SFV and TF2 being viable. Maybe a class limit of 2-3 in quick play could also reduce pub stomper strategies.
Tyrant Rave
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Use it near cliffs if you want kills with it. Otherwise, use it to disrupt the enemy team so yours can pick them off easier. It's good for breaking formations.
It's not for getting kills. It's for disrupting the hell out of a team.
AnathemicOne
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I hit lvl 31 and the games suddenly take longer to find, sad day
orthodoxy1095
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As a Torb you have like what 200 health (plus armor)? It's not like you're some kind of beefcake. Killing you after your turret should be damn easy.
Dangansona
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Lol people really need to get over themselves being so pissed at Mei. She's a fun character and I've never been completely wrecked by one. I mean like others have been saying, if there's a good Hero on the other team just change yours to account for it.
There are several heroes more annoying to go up against.
There are several heroes more annoying to go up against.
orthodoxy1095
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You should be disrupting with it. It can actually win you games before you go into Overtime for example.
How long?
While we're talking competitive, have the tournaments thus far used higher tick rate than quick play? I remember hearing it's possible in custom settings.
You're definitely right about that, because games are balanced based on their audience data as a whole. As I say in my post above, balancing is a data driven pursuit.
But pro-players don't drive balance, they're very good coal-mine canaries for balance issues, often finding unintended strategies or interactions that developers hadn't expected, but whether or not a pro player thinks something needs to be changed has little to no bearing on whether or not it actually does.
If a game was played by 100% "Pro" players, you could say it was balanced based on their experiences, but even then it wouldn't be based on their opinions.
How long?
While we're talking competitive, have the tournaments thus far used higher tick rate than quick play? I remember hearing it's possible in custom settings.
Yes, they all use custom games which have 60 tickrate
orthodoxy1095
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Personally I get pissed not because she's OP but simply because her playstyle is annoying!
Bumbletron
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I'm the 279th Mei in the world, lol. Not bad, I suppose. Glad to rank.
Coolbgdog12
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Does Blizzard offer refunds?? I bought this last night on PC, played a few friend AI rounds and a couple quick games today and I just don't find it fun at all. To be frank it's boring and dull to me. I should've just listened to my gut feeling.
Am I out of $40?
Am I out of $40?
AnathemicOne
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How long?
While we're talking competitive, have the tournaments thus far used higher tick rate than quick play? I remember hearing it's possible in custom settings.
Like a minute
Where do you check your rank?
CountAntonius
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schaft0620
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I'm currently #148, but you have waaaaaaaaaaay more time with D.Va than I do. ;p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvwHHu9OXrs <- A small sample of my D.Va handywork.
I tend to switch it up a lot depending on the situation.
Defense, I go Mei, Attack, D.Va.
Where is the link for the standings?
Mobius and pet octopus
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Just to clarify though, it only lists people who have had their profile looked up once. I thought I was really high up on a couple spots, turns out I am probably not.
DragonOfWisdom
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I'm 70th D.Va player if I'm reading it right.
Also 252nd Symmetra
Also 252nd Symmetra
AnathemicOne
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I'm #646 as Mercy on PC
Bumbletron
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Some heroes aren't made for objective time, though. A reaper, tracer, D. Va may be too busy flanking the team to have a whole lot of time on the objective. Especially if the whole team is great and constantly pushing the objective. I understand your frustration, though. I almost always have the gold medal for Objective time on my teams, my teammates just don't realize that K/D isn't worth nearly as much as contesting the point if it comes down to it.
She's my most played character by far.
I've giving out a ton of damage and changed the flow of games, but I've been absolutely wrecked an equal amount of times.
Ginger Hail
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The excitement of seeing a Legendary drop only for it to be a dupe.
A Serious Man
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Does leaving a match after every single teammate picks Genji make me a bad person?
Azure Dream
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Oh, I didn't think to use the ice spike like that. (Only had the game for about a day.) It felt weird how you could freeze people solid but not really do that much more damage before they broke out.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Not every character is meant to hold the objective... like why would I just stand on the objective as reaper or tracer, who are designed to kind of solo flank and hit people when they are weak. Sometimes even as soldier 76 my best use is to be in a flanking position, not on the point.
TheExhaustedWalrus
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I played a hell of a game as Junkrat earlier... the gameplay was flowing perfectly and it was extremely fun. He's rotation for my main now.
Also does anyone have any good Mercy tips? She seems super difficult to use to me. You have to be very fast it seems
Also does anyone have any good Mercy tips? She seems super difficult to use to me. You have to be very fast it seems
MetroidPrimeRib
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pick genji
Someone else mentioned this too. The odds have to be crazy low of a dupe happening, right? You'd think Blizzard could add code to reroll if a dupe hits, especially if it was happening in the beta.
In 16-17 levels I don't think I've seen a single orange, let alone a dupe.
Bastion is fine, you just don't know how to counter it atm.
orthodoxy1095
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Genji is the easiest counter. There are others though.
if anything he needs a buff.
Should have picked Hanzo and said "Let's do this, my Brothers"
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