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PAL Charts - Week 50, 2014

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Xando

Member
Could someone make a thread? i'm on mobile right now.


edit2:
WW numbers are fake.


Fifa 14 & 15 sold 1.6 million this year and EA is market leader thanks to Fifa.
 
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
So, Xbox One is still lower than Wii U in Germany.

EDIT: Just saw this. The article, in the second page, quotes numbers from THAT site. Are we sure german numbers are official, right?
 
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Xando

Member
Mpl90 said:
So, Xbox One is still lower than Wii U in Germany.

EDIT: Just saw this. The article, in the second page, quotes numbers from THAT site. Are we sure german numbers are official, right?
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They claim german hardware and software are from the November Gfk report. No idea where they got WW from.
 
Majmun

Majmun

Member
Xando said:
Could someone make a thread? i'm on mobile right now.


edit:

Not sure where they have their WW numbers from but they claim

PS4: 16.1 million
XB: 9.1 million


Fifa 14 & 15 sold 1.6 million this year and EA is market leader thanks to Fifa.
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That's from vgchartzzzzzz
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Xando said:
They claim german hardware and software are from the November Gfk report. Not idea where they got WW from.
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Ok, those should be good. WW numbers are from the BANNED site, instead. DO NOT BELIEVE THEM.
 
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michaelius

Banned
Xater said:
There is nothing wrong with it except for being bland. It's not repulsive at all.
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Bland is a perfect word to describe Bioware output in last few years. I used to worship them and they had instant day one status in my heart but ME2/DA2/ME3 I'm not touching anything made by them until it hits PSN+
 
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Daemul

Member
Xando said:
Could someone make a thread? i'm on mobile right now.


edit:

Not sure where they have their WW numbers from but they claim

PS4: 16.1 million
XB: 9.1 million


Fifa 14 & 15 sold 1.6 million this year and EA is market leader thanks to Fifa.
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********? Get this shit out of ere.
 
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Pezus

Member
dolemite said:
Halo is up at #10? What is happening? Also, it should've been LBP3, not DriveClub, that Sony decided to push through the bundles.
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It is in bundles where it's needed most (the US). I do think there are some LBP bundles in the UK though!
 
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gtj1092

Member
Xando said:
New German Gfk LTD numbers:

PS4: 1.2 million
XB1: 270k


http://www.boerse-online.de/nachric...genueber-der-Xbox-One-weiter-aus-1000412979/1
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Am I mistaken or is ps4 selling in Germany just as much as XB1 is selling in the UK. PS4 must be killing XB1 in Europe then.

Have a feeling Ps4 will easily hit 20+ million shipped by Dec. 31. Then the Chinese launch while not huge may help the Ps4 keep pace with Wii shipments for at least one more quarter before Wii takes off into the stratosphere.
 
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Foshy

Member
Miles Quaritch said:
They are essentially giving the game away in this bundle. That doesn't signal much confidence in the IP.
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On the other hand, awareness of the IP is boosted by giving it away to as many people as possible.

I get what you want to say, but I don't think it's really black and white. Online was a mess at launch and led to some bad word of mouth, but now they're trying to salvage the situation after that it's been (mostly) fixed.
 
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Pezus

Member
noobie said:
that banned site has PS 4 at 1.1 million and XBO at 280k

so they must have realised that worldwide cant be correct either
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To be fair, that's not very far off BUT it's after MANY adjustments. When Sony announced 1m+ sold to consumers a few weeks ago that site had PS4 under 800k iirc and the owner didn't believe Sony were not reporting shipped but sold to consumers despite them almost spelling it out lol. So he adjusted PS4 up to 900k, leaving the 100k gap...
 
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Miles Quaritch

Member
Foshy said:
On the other hand, awareness of the IP is boosted by giving it away to as many people as possible.

I get what you want to say, but I don't think it's really black and white. Online was a mess at launch and led to some bad word of mouth, but now they're trying to salvage the situation after that it's been (mostly) fixed.
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Yeah, that's definitely a fair point.

I won't stop worrying about DC's future until Sony commit to a sequel. Incredible new IP that came along just at the right time, to not give Evo a second chance would be criminal, especially with Studio Liverpool shuttered and Wipeout stuck in limbo...
 
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theprodigy

Member
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Links_fantasy

Junior Member
It's sad the WiiU Isnt doing better in the UK, a lot of great games released this year. The WiiU and 3DS have some of the best exclusives but the UK seems to not care about Nintendo anymore. At least they are doing much better in the rest of Europe especially France who loves Japanese games and jrpg's.
 
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Miles Quaritch

Member
Links_fantasy said:
It's sad the WiiU Isnt doing better in the UK, a lot of great games released this year. The WiiU and 3DS have some of the best exclusives but the UK seems to not care about Nintendo anymore. At least they are doing much better in the rest of Europe especially France who loves Japanese games and jrpg's.
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The U has virtually no presence in the UK. Very little shelf space, very little advertising. It's a sad situation.
 
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BKK

Member
It's a few weeks old, but I don't think it's been posted yet (may have missed it though);

Game Annual Report (PDF)

ZojOISH.jpg


2013 Actual, 2014 Estimate (forecast). Screen Digest, who have worked with ELSPA/Ukie on their reports, so 2013 figures should be Chart-Track (PS4/XB1 numbers match). Don't know how long ago they made their 2014 forecast, but it seems a bit low for current gen now (maybe too high for last gen, but hard to tell).
 
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Mory Dunz

Member
BKK said:
It's a few weeks old, but I don't think it's been posted yet (may have missed it though);

Game Annual Report (PDF)

ZojOISH.jpg


2013 Actual, 2014 Estimate (forecast). Screen Digest, who have worked with ELSPA/Ukie on their reports, so 2013 figures should be Chart-Track (PS4/XB1 numbers match). Don't know how long ago they made their 2014 forecast, but it seems a bit low for current gen now (maybe too high for last gen, but hard to tell).
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3DS did really poorly in UK, but we already knew this I guess.
 
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Captain Smoker

Member
I also found this (regarding PS4 in France):

Google Translate gibberish:
More than 13.5 million copies have already been sold worldwide. In the UK , as in Germany , the console has passed the one million units sold, and one would be imminent in France.
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http://www.lemonde.fr/jeux-video/ar...-succes-tres-bien-engage_4531586_1616924.html

I think this means that the PS4 is just shy of a million in France. News is from 29.11.2014

Maybe some french speakers here can confirm this. ;)



Germany Hardware Sales
Code: 
[B]                 Wii U		   XBO		   PS4[/B]

Nov 12               +               -               -
Dec 12		85.000               -               -

Jan 13		     +               -               -
Feb 13		     +               -               -
Mar 13		     +               -               -
Apr 13		     +               -               -
May 13		     +               -               -
Jun 13		     +               -               -
Jul 13		     +               -               -
Aug 13		     +               -               -
Sep 13		75.000               -               -
Oct 13		     +               -               -
Nov 13		     +		     +		     +
Dec 13		     +	       100.000         250.000

Jan 14		     +		     +		     +
Feb 14		     +		     +		     +
Mar 14		     +		     +		     +
Apr 14		     +		     +		     +
May 14		     +		     +		     +
Jun 14		     +          70.000         290.000
Jul 14		     +		     +		     +
Aug 14	       190.000		     +		     +
Sep 14		      		     +		     +
Oct 14		      		     +		     +
Nov 14                         100.000         660.000
Dec 14

[B]
Total	       350.000         270.000       1.200.000[/B]
 
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le-seb

Member
Captain Smoker said:
Maybe some french speakers here can confirm this. ;)
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Ouaip, that's what he said.

PlayStation France expects the PS4 to pass a million systems sold by the end of the year.
The author adds it could even almost reach Wii's first year record of 1.2 millions units sold.
 
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theprodigy

Member
Captain Smoker said:
I also found this (regarding PS4 in France):

Google Translate gibberish:

http://www.lemonde.fr/jeux-video/ar...-succes-tres-bien-engage_4531586_1616924.html

I think this means that the PS4 is just shy of a million in France. News is from 29.11.2014

Maybe some french speakers here can confirm this. ;)



Germany Hardware Sales
Code: 
[B]                 Wii U		   XBO		   PS4[/B]

Nov 12               +               -               -
Dec 12		85.000               -               -

Jan 13		     +               -               -
Feb 13		     +               -               -
Mar 13		     +               -               -
Apr 13		     +               -               -
May 13		     +               -               -
Jun 13		     +               -               -
Jul 13		     +               -               -
Aug 13		     +               -               -
Sep 13		75.000               -               -
Oct 13		     +               -               -
Nov 13		     +		     +		     +
Dec 13		     +	       100.000         250.000

Jan 14		     +		     +		     +
Feb 14		     +		     +		     +
Mar 14		     +		     +		     +
Apr 14		     +		     +		     +
May 14		     +		     +		     +
Jun 14		     +          70.000         290.000
Jul 14		     +		     +		     +
Aug 14	       190.000		     +		     +
Sep 14		      		     +		     +
Oct 14		      		     +		     +
Nov 14                         100.000         660.000
Dec 14

[B]
Total	       350.000         270.000       1.200.000[/B]
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lol how come this time France is behind Germany for Playstation consoles?

also Moonstone should do his Germany launch-aligned chart for other countries as well
 
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Pezus

Member
Raist said:
Yeah, about to cross 1M, and may have a shot at beating Wii's record (1.2M after its 2nd holiday season).
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Incredible stuff. Far ahead of Wii in Germany, might be barely ahead of Wii in France. How do the UK numbers compare (to Wii)?
 
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Mass_Pincup

Banned
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Captain Smoker

Member
Pezus said:
Incredible stuff. Far ahead of Wii in Germany, might be barely ahead of Wii in France. How do the UK numbers compare (to Wii)?
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Wii managed 1.995.000 units from November 2006 to December 2007. (14 months)

PS4 was at 1.000.000 units at the begin of September 2014. (10 months)


But Wiis second full year was brutal, it sold 2.730.000 in 2008 (PS2 best year was 1.940.000).
 
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theprodigy

Member
Katana_Strikes said:
3DS has only sold 200k this year in the UK?

And WiiU sales continue to shock. Dreadful.

PS4 selling as good as WiiU and XBone combined.
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err it's a forecasted total, and you would have to combine 3DS and 2DS for 300k

not to mention I think it's pretty obvious the Xbox One has already passed this estimate, so....yeah
 
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Kyougar

Member
Captain Smoker said:
Germany Hardware Sales
Code: 
[B]                 Wii U		   XBO		   PS4[/B]

Nov 12               +               -               -
Dec 12		85.000               -               -

Jan 13		     +               -               -
Feb 13		     +               -               -
Mar 13		     +               -               -
Apr 13		     +               -               -
May 13		     +               -               -
Jun 13		     +               -               -
Jul 13		     +               -               -
Aug 13		     +               -               -
Sep 13		75.000               -               -
Oct 13		     +               -               -
Nov 13		     +		     +		     +
Dec 13		     +	       100.000         250.000

Jan 14		     +		     +		     +
Feb 14		     +		     +		     +
Mar 14		     +		     +		     +
Apr 14		     +		     +		     +
May 14		     +		     +		     +
Jun 14		     +          70.000         290.000
Jul 14		     +		     +		     +
Aug 14	       190.000		     +		     +
Sep 14		      		     +		     +
Oct 14		      		     +		     +
Nov 14                         100.000         660.000
Dec 14

[B]
Total	       350.000         270.000       1.200.000[/B]
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so nearly 7:1 (November figures) is the real sales gap between XBO and PS4 in Germany. XBOX Numbers were inflated at the start because Tier2 Neighbours bought theirs here.
 
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Moonstone

Member
Kyougar said:
so nearly 7:1 (November figures) is the real sales gap between XBO and PS4 in Germany. XBOX Numbers were inflated at the start because Tier2 Neighbours bought theirs here.
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This year:
950k PS4
XB1 170k

"Only" 5.6:1.

Regarding imports - I don't think that they matter much. If you directly import via amazon it should get tracked, but if e.g. MediaMarkt shifts german XB1s to a MM in another country, those consoles should not be included in the GFK consumer panel.
 
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Captain Smoker

Member
Anecdotal Market Watch - Germany December



Amazon Top-Sellers - December
PS4: #18 | #57 | #88 | #92
3DS: #41
XBO: #47
WiiU: #69

Amazon combines all sales for December.
PS4 is number one without a doubt. XBO in front of Wii U.
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Saturn Top-Sellers - Current
PS4: #1 | #2 | #4 | #8

3DS: #12 | #13 | #18 | #20 | #22 | #23 | #25 | #26 | #28 | #30 | #31 | #38

WiiU: #3 | #5 | #7 | #9
XBO: #10 | #11 | #16 | #21 | #29 | #32 | #34

X360: #6 | #19 | #27 | #43 | #44
PS3: #14 | #17 | #33 | #35 | #39 | #40
PSV: #15 | #24 | #36 | #37


Saturn & Media Markt are the two largest retailers for electronics in Germany.
Unlike Amazon, these are just current top-sellers, don't know the timeframe.
And Saturn & Media Markt make most of their money in stores, these charts here
probably only include online sales but I'm not sure.

The sales should look like this, Wii U close to XBO, which has worse rankings but
more models, so maybe there is a tie. PS4 should be #1 no matter what, 3DS has
a million models, so should be relatively high.
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Media Markt Top-Sellers - Current
3DS: #3 | #5 | #7 | #8 | #11 | #13 | #16 | #17 | #18 | #21 | #23 | #24 | #27 | #31

PS4: #1 | #2

XBO: #9 | #12 | #22 | #26 | #34 | #39
WiiU: #4 | #6

PS3: #10 | #14 | #20 | #32 | #33
PSV: #15 | #28 | #30 | #45

Wii: #25
X360: #29


So, 3DS should be #1 here, too many models. :p
PS4 after that and again, not sure about Wii U & XBO because XBO has more models
but worse rankings.
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Google Trends
http://abload.de/img/zzwzus2.jpg

zzwzus2.jpg
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idealo.de trends - thanks Moonstone!
idealo-03.png
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