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Phantom Dust Remaster now 8GB after uncompressed cutscenes were found
- Thread starter Cheddahz
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The 360 probably upscaled it but the internal resolution would still be 480p. I doubt it will display 480p on a modern tv unless they are going to border it or stretch the hell out of it but even if it gets upscaled to a modern resolution it will still be rendering at 480p. But really they haven't been very open about that stuff so we are not sure.
Taliban Stan
Member
Those looking for the interview where original resolution/framerate gets mentioned: http://www.polygon.com/e3/2016/6/13/11927046/phantom-dust-is-back-on-for-xbox-arrives-in-2017 Video in link.
3:00 "The original resolution and frame rate is exactly what you're going to experience. It is a little bit, you know, of a wayback machine."
Kinda blows. There will be some new people but I just feel like it being locked to 480p is resurrecting the game just to send it to die in a brand new way.
3:00 "The original resolution and frame rate is exactly what you're going to experience. It is a little bit, you know, of a wayback machine."
Kinda blows. There will be some new people but I just feel like it being locked to 480p is resurrecting the game just to send it to die in a brand new way.
chronic_archaic
Member
Do we have a price for this yet? Definitely want but if it's not upressed I'm seriously worried.
Ricerocket
Member
I'm really triggered with the way ATT and Comcast are handling internet in my location so yes anything regarding caps piss me off. In a way what I said sound ridiclous and was out of place in other locations where I am at, we're pretty much crippled for $$$.
It has been called a budget title so I am guessing in the 10-20 dollar range.
deadscreensky
Member
The original cutscenes were terribly overcompressed -- they looked awful even at 480p. I doubt very much the new remaster will feature uncompressed video, they probably just mean with better source material they'll offer a nicer compression.
Oh, ok cool. I'll take it...still... Heh
That's the thing... I don't think they ever officially did. Who knows?
That's the thing... I don't think they ever officially did. Who knows?
Would be great if they put it right away with GwG.
No. Compression can go fuck itself.
No!
They should use an efficient video codec and get the most out of the original video quality at a resonable file size.
This is 100% accurate. These are the same cinematics -- we never found the source assets and scenes that the cutscenes were created with ('04 archiving processes weren't great) -- but we have re-encoded them at a much higher quality than the originals ever were.
As an example, the encoding on the original Xbox version took a 1.6 GB video (the intro) and reduced it to 42MB.
Yeah.
Raw uncompressed data size, PD has 85GB of cinematics in it. For 2003/4, that's pretty amazing.
DriftingSpirit
Member
At least they are being upfront about it.
That's fantastic, and thanks for the insight.
Any chance for clarification on the rendering resolution? Since it's Play Anywhere, I was surprised it sounded at one point like the renderer would only output at 480p considering how Xbox One games (let alone PC titles) push resolution normally.
So what's the resolution?
Please answer the resolution question once and for all. Is this game really going to be 480p?
I can't imagine that Shannon's answer about 'animation files' is relevant at all for simply increasing the game's rendering resolution.
Yeah, true. It would look bad for Microsoft to admit they're releasing a game in 480p in 2017, even if it's old. Even the PS2 classics on PS4 aren't running in their original res these days. I would love to be wrong, though.
Unless there is some sort of ridiculous issue with the internal rendering resolution, I'm not seeing the issue with running the game in native 1080p or 4k while leaving all assets, including the HUD, untouched.
Even if the models are old and low poly relatively they will still look better at a higher resolution than in 480p.
Since this game has multiplayer, and a dedicated, somewhat competitive MP at that, I can't imagine the increased viewing quality would be detrimental.
Why should the rest of the world suffer as a result of the USA's fucked up internet policies?
LukasTaves
Member
They found the uncompressed ones and likely recoded at a higher quality.
Only a couple of games did (Halo 2) , but generally it was just the original res
That is pretty darn neat that you recovered the original files. Very cool.
Can you put to rest the resolution arguments? Haha
I'm fine if the game renders at its original resolution, so be it...we could at least put the confusion to rest.
It's not the "USA", it's just certain companies screwing customers with data caps and monopolies (they'll act like it's not monopoly based though
). I don't have data caps with Charter in South Carolina.They are...original videos are 85GB as said above.
That's stupid, messages by Ricerocket should be compressed and offered at a lower character count for the NA residents. Nothing good about this post.
RELEASE DATE WHEN?
<------I've been waiting 84 years for the PC release already.
Steam plz, thx
All we know is before E3, so they got around 2 months and a few days
That's not a concrete date. *whine* I want a concrete date. *whine whine*
Sleight of Jam
Banned
Awesome great news for a lazy ported not HD remaster, thanks Phil!! You really nailed it this gen!
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
They're not saying that they shipped the uncompressed version, they're saying that they opted to compress to a higher quality from the uncompressed version. If the quality of the original compressed copy is a 5/10 and they want to go for a 7/10, finding a 10/10 uncompressed copy lets them do that.
I realize everyone here on GAF would like a definitive answer to the resolution question, but I can't give you that answer right now. Why? There's a larger story to tell about PD coming back, the challenges this specific version has faced, and how the team has pushed things upwards / forwards with the title. There are some die-hard PD fans in the press that have been eager to cover PD's re-release in some way/shape/form, and we want to give them the opportunity to share those stories through their sites.
I know that's not what you want to hear right now, but it's still coming before E3, and while all the assets are from the original game, I think many people will be pleased with the look / presenation - IMO, I've certainly not seen PD look this good (and play as solidly) before.
...and I say that playing on a 4K monitor in full-screen. =)
"please understand"
I know that's not what you want to hear right now, but it's still coming before E3, and while all the assets are from the original game, I think many people will be pleased with the look / presenation - IMO, I've certainly not seen PD look this good (and play as solidly) before.
...and I say that playing on a 4K monitor in full-screen. =)
"please understand"
Icebergslim
Banned
I'm buying an Xbox just to play this game. Its that good.
Dee Dah Dave
Member
Good to see. I hope I get surprised with over 480p.
Of course, my ideal scenario would be a 4k compatible UI that is just the old UI redrawn either in vector or for native 4k, with 60fps, widescreen and all the retiming/tweaking that comes with, and either the old textures or new textures that are just the old ones but redrawn/redone at a better resolution.
I realize not all that is really possible depending on the scenario but hell, I own Phantom Dust already. If I wanted to play it in 480p I would just turn on my Xbox and play it online with its dedicated community over that one LAN tool.
If even a couple of those things, or just 1080p/4k support, is included I'm down.
Considering how much confusion there is regarding the game, they aren't being upfront at all.
Original graphics and original rendering but looks great on a 4k monitor at full screen?
Labombadog
Member
Damned if you do damned if you don't.
Dee Dah Dave
Member
Yah it sucks that people have Flintstones internet in 2017, but if you cant handle 8GB it might be time for a new hobby. You can't halt online game distribution just because someone from Alabama is still on dial up.
dancrane212
Member
Very interested to finally see this; fingers crossed it's not a day before launch.
About as clear as it gets without going into specifics. Thanks for the clarification.
Any chance of a retail physical release? I'm not very keen on digital only titles.