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Phil says January is time to talk about games for Windows
- Thread starter Whipped Spartan
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ebullientprism
Member
Uhhh it would be nice if you just stayed away from PC gaming MS. Last time you tried you killed one of the best RTS studios and made one of the worst DRMs in gaming.
PC gaming is doing fine without you. Lets keep it that way please.
PC gaming is doing fine without you. Lets keep it that way please.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Microsoft are moving to a unified ecosystem, that would be a huge mistake.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
It wasn't? I definitely had it installed on our old family computer at one point, before going to XP. Machine came installed with 98, switched to ME (terrible mistake), then had 2000.
The things you learn everyday!
It won't work. Even a Halo MCC W10 exclusive would bomb horribly hard on PC.
Microsoft should not overestimate the appeal of their console IPs on PC.
The only MS IP which I would really want on PC is Gears, loved Gears 1-3 and I would buy a Gears collection on PC day one.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
You speak as if Microsoft's operating systems are secure.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Great but just don't mandate another stupid client. I'm listening.
Stone Ocean
Member
Then people pirate W10 and it all comes crashing down.
Lilalaunebaer
Member
Steam or gtfo.
But oh, i just know they will have some bullshit up their sleeves. Windows 10 app store only + xbox live account. Though no gold needed for online play. Because they´re nice...
But oh, i just know they will have some bullshit up their sleeves. Windows 10 app store only + xbox live account. Though no gold needed for online play. Because they´re nice...
Principate
Saint Titanfall
I don't think they honestly care too much about selling games. They want to ensure their new OS is a hit, (which 8 most certainly was not), so pushing DX12 and exclusive games would be a lot more incentive for PC gamers to upgrade. Since ideally they'd rather you get an XB1 and pay a monthly fee. software sales in themselves they don't care too much about.
Robert J. Sullivan
Member
GFWL One i'm ready
Is it really bullshit for them to not want to give Valve 30% for doing nothing at all though?
Brerlappin
Member
Give me my Halo 3/Reach/ODST port MS. Thats all i want of you.
Giving Valve 30% is better than not getting anything. I used the windows store (8.1) once for project spark, only had problems and won't use it again.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Not really, Valve just did what MS could have done but chose not to do a long time ago, it's a question of if MS even cares about that or simply don't want to pay royalties.
Valve has been outright hostile however which makes me more inclined to think they'll at least try to fight back as well as the homogenizing of the XB1 and W10 interface.
Lilalaunebaer
Member
They can offer both if they want and give, i don´t know 10% off on their own store.
But only putting them on their own store? Yes.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
What would be pretty awesome is if Windows 10 had an initiative to compete with the Sony's Remote Play functionality - stream your XBO games to any W10 device. PC in another room, HTPC with W10, Surface / Surface Pro device, and Windows phones.
And in an ideal world, you'd be able to use your XBO to receive game streaming from your PC in return, perhaps even facilitating a steam client running on XBO which could integrate with friend lists and receive streams from steam on your PC.
It's nice to want things.
And in an ideal world, you'd be able to use your XBO to receive game streaming from your PC in return, perhaps even facilitating a steam client running on XBO which could integrate with friend lists and receive streams from steam on your PC.
It's nice to want things.
CecilRousso
Member
Geez Phil, we're just joking about your commitment to PC gaming comments. We don't actually want you to do anything about it.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Speak for yourself. I for one welcome more pc games and hopefully XB1 ports.
CecilRousso
Member
Porting games to Windows? Sure, bring it. But few people are comfortable with them doing more then just releasing games on Windows, with their past history of goldfish style attention spans when it comes mantaining any focus on PC gaming.
Just put a couple of games like Killer Instinct on Steam, Hell, maybe get a few older titles like Gears 1 and Viva Pinata up there as well. No dumb client stuff again please. That's basically all you have to do to make more money and piss off (practically) no-one.
By 'nothing at all' you mean provide the infrastructure and market the games to Valve's massive userbase?
But we'll see, maybe they're dumb enough to try to reinvent the wheel again.
By 'nothing at all' you mean provide the infrastructure and market the games to Valve's massive userbase?
But we'll see, maybe they're dumb enough to try to reinvent the wheel again.
Desktop software will actually be purchasable from the store this go round.
abracadaver
Member
Just support Steam and bring some of the Xbox franchises to PC please!
Almost as bad as Xbox One
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Worst case scenario you can just ignore it, I don't there's many developers that would sign up for something like gfwl exclusive anymore.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
They've already released a USB terrestrial TV receiver that the bone can use to broadcast that TV signal to any connected phone/tablet/PC running smartglass, while gaming.
It only seems natural that streaming games to smartglass or whatever would be the next step. If you can stream video from a USB connected device, then why not from internal hardware?
Remember the reports of Xbox execs streaming halo to a phone during a closed meeting? It came during a time when PSNOW was the hot topic so People weren't thinking local streaming, but I have a feeling that it would have been a more local remote play type deal.
*praying*
All future Xbox One first party games will be released on PC/Win 10.
Of which year?
Don't have much trust in MS when it is about PC gaming. Steam is a good distribution platform and I can't see me swinging for something else easily.
If he is talking about some new games or ports for Windows, that would be fine. Unfortunately, my PC is quite old so it wouldn't run them and I barely play on PC anymore.
Don't have much trust in MS when it is about PC gaming. Steam is a good distribution platform and I can't see me swinging for something else easily.
If he is talking about some new games or ports for Windows, that would be fine. Unfortunately, my PC is quite old so it wouldn't run them and I barely play on PC anymore.
Well, they could probobably force it for their own stuff.
I'll feel sorry for Phil if they want to do something like that though. God, imagine having to sell people on that after GFWL.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
Also MS has indeed made a lot of how they are interested in gaming on windows, but that was during a time where 360 was just doing the business for them. MS didn't really try too much at the end of next gen, or at least didn't put enough effort in the right sort of gaming business.
I don't think they have the option of complacency or not meeting promises this time around. Whatever they're doing has to provide something that is competitive. They don't have the mindshare, good will or the market lead to try a "see what sticks" attitude going forward.
They need to be focused.
I don't think they have the option of complacency or not meeting promises this time around. Whatever they're doing has to provide something that is competitive. They don't have the mindshare, good will or the market lead to try a "see what sticks" attitude going forward.
They need to be focused.
One thing that irks me is the supposition that having XOne games on PC somehow hurt XOne sales or the console in general.
Sure, there are the constant idiots shouting "ONE LESS REASON TO BY IT" in every fucking related thread, but really, how big a proportion of potential buyers are these people? I'm pretty sure the largest target group consists of people who haven't already spent 600-1000 dollars for a gaming PC.
Sure, there are the constant idiots shouting "ONE LESS REASON TO BY IT" in every fucking related thread, but really, how big a proportion of potential buyers are these people? I'm pretty sure the largest target group consists of people who haven't already spent 600-1000 dollars for a gaming PC.
I can see the appeal in cross platform 1st party titles if they do it right. Would still be a Microsoft exclusive if the PC version was purchasable via the app store. Having cross platform pruchase would be even better ie if you bought digital Quantum Break on Xbox One, you alos download this for your Windows 10 PC via it's respective app store for free.
This is all a dream of course.
This is all a dream of course.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Which have they brought over? Ryse and DR3 were Crytek and Capcom respectively.
CharmingCharlie
Member
Going on the past history of Microsoft I think it is a safe prediction that whatever good ole Phil jabbers on about with regards to PC gaming will never actually happen anyway.
I personally expect a 2 hour presentation on all the "cool" stuff you can do on your Xbone from your PC in Windows 10.
To be honest all I want from Microsoft is for them to stop getting in the PC's way. If a first/second/third party developer want to bring a game to the PC and Xbone at the same time then JUST LET THEM.
Microsoft really needs to remember it owes it's very damn existence to the PC. It's the PC that has been bank rolling their damn console yet they do everything they possibly can to damage PC gaming.
I personally expect a 2 hour presentation on all the "cool" stuff you can do on your Xbone from your PC in Windows 10.
To be honest all I want from Microsoft is for them to stop getting in the PC's way. If a first/second/third party developer want to bring a game to the PC and Xbone at the same time then JUST LET THEM.
Microsoft really needs to remember it owes it's very damn existence to the PC. It's the PC that has been bank rolling their damn console yet they do everything they possibly can to damage PC gaming.
Rizsparky
Member
Would love this.
HighResTomato
Member
If their (*new) games are going to be Windows 10 only, they will probably distribute them through the build in store like Apple does with their software.
