MugiwaraCole
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I really don't care. I'd actually be happy if Sony just said "lol we don't need to do that, so nah".
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Phil Spencer responds to Jim Ryan on crossplay "We will keep Minecraft players safe."
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The Artisan
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they are going to need it to get the full, most complete version of Minecraft to date...
PS4 will have the tiniest userbase for Minecraft once the update rolls out where Switch, XB1, mobile and tablet devices, and PC can all play with each other.
PS4-Switch-PC-Mobile could still be on the table. But I'm sure Mojang got some pressure from Microsoft not to do it unless Sony allows Xbox in on it too. I think they just really don't want to do anything with Xbox. Once Rocket League releases on Switch and PS4-Switch-PC is a thing, that is when you know its confirmed.
Not to mention Ms has done it on PS in the past with Skype
Just wait until GAF starts organizing Switch vs Xbox matches in Rocket League.
We can settle console wars like civilized drivers.
That's not how it works. The dedicated servers will host thousands of players at the same time regardless of platform.
We can settle console wars like civilized drivers.
That's not how it works. The dedicated servers will host thousands of players at the same time regardless of platform.
VlaudTheImpaler
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Good. At least all those filthy crossbloods won't be tainting the superior experiences of the pure sonyblood children.
Which is interesting if you think about it since PC is surely the least family-friendly, and perhaps least secure environment to interface with.
for everyone posting about how popular Minecraft is. how popular is it on playstation4? I know when NPD previously had sku rankings for their game sales list, Playstation consoles were always last on the list. 360 and xbox one were top on that list every month outside of june 2016. It also wasn't on any top 10 lists for either PS4 or Xbox1 for total sales last year. It was on the top downloads on psn last year though ranked 3rd. I think sony is just assumes the sales aren't worth it for them to do a deal, whatever the deal was.
SolicitorPirate
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Dude, what the hell are you talking about? The most effective form of brand evangelisation is friends telling you to get the console they have so you can play with them. Sony as market leader benefits the most from this
TheFurizzlyBear
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Well, despite not being on a top ten list, Phil mentions that December(November?) last year was Minecraft's biggest month on Xbox one. What that means exactly, not sure but based on the context he ment sales from the game on xbox.
Muchi Muchi Pink
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And MS said "sure, let's speak about it" and Sony never mentioned it again.
VlaudTheImpaler
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I would hope you understand the difference between a Rocket League game between 8 players and a persistent Minecraft world of thousands.
So a theoretical Switch/PS4/PC x-play is still on the table?
I think Sony is saying no to any x-play.
That's a lot simpler for something as heavily instanced as Rocket League. That's not going to work with Minecraft Realms where the servers are up perpetually, and anyone on any supporting platform could potentially connect to it at any point. Some servers will have thousands of players at once... if you branch the crossplay off into PS4/Switch/PC and Xbox/Switch/PC, one of those branches isn't joining these servers. And it's not gonna be the Xbox side.
Dollar sales don't tell you anything about popularity. Minecraft has never cost more than $20 on PS4. You said yourself it was the third most popular download
It's constantly on the Top 10 sellers list for PSN.
So I do think the base on PS4 is pretty big.
It's just a matter of time before Sony gives in I think.
Cross play is the future, much like digital games.
Well we'll see once Rocket League releases on Switch
It's freaking Minecraft...
I'm sure it's selling well...
but again how much of that is ps4. it was always behind MS and even WIIU for Minecraft sales.
rokkerkory
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If you play minecraft then you should care.
Zvonimir Boban
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Not sure if this is serious or not.
VlaudTheImpaler
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Dude, you don't have to be a genius to look at this and see the potential sales power over time. Especially when combined with the amount of PlayStations sold.
If this game where on my gaming service, I'd want to make sure that it was up to par with the best versions out there in order to ensure my service isn't missing out on as many sales as possible.
It makes no sense to gimp the version that is on your platform. Especially not Minecraft. It's like the gift that keeps on giving.
PaulExcellent
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I'm just glad we got people here making sure that Sony feels comfortable. It's been a tough time for them this E3 and maybe we're being too hard.
Like, seriously. Who even plays Rocket League/Minecraft? And if they do, what's the point of playing with friends that have other consoles anyway? Can't they just get a PS4 like the rest of us? Really pathetic from Microsoft to try to steal Sony's market share by opening cross/platform play. It's a shame seeing a company go so low for some sales.
#4theplayers
Like, seriously. Who even plays Rocket League/Minecraft? And if they do, what's the point of playing with friends that have other consoles anyway? Can't they just get a PS4 like the rest of us? Really pathetic from Microsoft to try to steal Sony's market share by opening cross/platform play. It's a shame seeing a company go so low for some sales.
#4theplayers
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How is it gimped exactly? If it's missing features other then cross-play, wouldn't that be on the developer? Why are they not pushing those features on PS4? Are they holding those features hostage just because Sony refuses cross-play?
but what I am saying is that even though ps4 has been outselling xbox1 by a good margin minecraft was still selling better on xbox1, heck until may of last year the 360 version was still selling more than anything else. since then ps4 took june, and after that NPD moved to their new style and removed sku rankings. if it was already selling worse than every other service it might not be worth the effort.
MS built the new version specifically for their dedicated servers. great business decision on their part, bully everyone into putting their players in MS's system. Don't play along no updates for you.
VlaudTheImpaler
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They won't be receiving the persistent world update as far as I am aware because that requires the use of MS's dedicated servers. Which is what enables cross play.
This comes up every few hours and I don't understand where the disconnect is. The Better Together update is a shared codebase update. Sony has said they don't want that update because of the crossplay. Is it technically feasible to detach the rest of the stuff and provide that as it's own update? Of course. But when your update is to unify the codebase... why on Earth would you do that?
They already have 4J maintaining their Minecraft like before. They'll get some of the features as and when they provide them.
Marty Chinn
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See a pattern here? If you feel this upset and violated over this, why not at he very least speak with your wallet and sell your PS4 and support the competition who seem to share your view because right now Sony doesn't feel the same way that you do about this and it's all because of $$$. So one thing you can do is hit their bottom line. If enough people do that, then maybe Sony might change their mind.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
I got some bad news for you....
Elfforkusu
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VlaudTheImpaler
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First off, sales are sales. I guarantee that Minecraft PS4 sells and retains an active player base better than 80% of the games released on their platform. But it wouldn't matter even if it was 50%. Minecraft is like freaking tetris. There will always be a crowd for it.
Secondly, what effort are you talking about? What backbreaking work do you think that Sony has to go through in order to have this?
Did I miss the news that, that isn't happening either?
TheStruggler
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jim ryan should never be near the media again this comment along with his backwards comp comment, he is clearly a moron
the effort of getting into a deal you don't like, and we don't know what would have to be done by sony to get this to work.
PrivateWHudson
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Yeah, but at that point we wouldn't care because we sold our PlayStations. I'd rather complain a whole lot now, while there is still time for Sony to change their position, than deal with the hassle of moving everything to Xbox. That said, if they don't reevaluate their decision, I am prepared to walk.
gamechanger87
Member
Correct. Just pc, Xbox and Switch
voting with wallets is a long process, internet protests gets more attention and gets faster results.
VlaudTheImpaler
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Well then shit, lemme grab my pitch fork as well.
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