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Pikmin 3 Gameplay Montage
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Freezie KO
Banned
The former. He just casually strolls by giant bulborbs, brushing his pikmin up against the creatures, waking them up. The player should be indicted for war crimes.
Pseudo_Sam
Survives without air, food, or water
I think some of the graphical decisions people take issue with are done for the sake of clarity. Like I think the water is really well done actually, it's very clear where the water meets the edge of the ground and where the surface of the water is. I would also assume that's why they don't seem to be pushing for actual blades of grass everywhere, because it would be too obstructive. Same goes for animations, they would want to favor obvious "tell" animations (like when an enemy is about to attack, or when a bulborb notices you) over "realistic" animations that might not be as clear.
Though the ground and rock textures could use some attention, I think it looks really good.
Though the ground and rock textures could use some attention, I think it looks really good.
yeah, I noticed, but I also think the game will be a bit more cruel...
the crab was grabbing pikmin and eating them in a nasty way, it's a long time since I played both pikmins but I don't remember any animal or enemiy being such an asshole.
maybe the peacocks in the first game...
Pseudo_Sam
Survives without air, food, or water
That's what I said, there's no damage meter at all. Normally that would indicate he did no damage to any enemy in the entire video, but surely that can't be considering he rains Pikmin on everything. Did they just take it out for the video or something?
Yup. I've never not gotten a console because of things like this. All I care about is good games, the rest is just icing on the cake.
WiiredShawn
Member
When I acquire a Wii U, I will likely play this lovely game.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
Q2? q_q
The only thing My girlfriend will play is that Touch Detective mushroom growing spinoff. But I know she would love this.
I guess if it comes out in April or later I'll have more time to enjoy it.
The only thing My girlfriend will play is that Touch Detective mushroom growing spinoff. But I know she would love this.
I guess if it comes out in April or later I'll have more time to enjoy it.
Good to hear. White Pikmin are the best. Creepy little buggers.
Solid SOAP
Member
This game looks beautiful, I don't get the graphics complaints. If I don't get a Wii until 2013 or so, this will be the first game I buy alongside Nintendo Land.
CoconutTank
Member
Haha hooooooly crap O_O I am excited and worried about fighting the crab and the moth, those things look quite dangerous!
A shame we haven't seen the flying pikmin that showed up in the intro in one of the earlier showings for Pikmin 3, I wonder how that one operates? It looks like the rock pikmin just do a lot of direct damage and bounce off whatever they hit, so that's pretty similar to how purple pikmin work when thrown right? Or do purple pikmin stay on the target and keep hitting them? Pretty sure it's just direct damage, but I haven't played Pikmin 2 in awhile.
Although, it could also be useful to indicate that pikmin on a higher elevation with nothing under it (such as a branch or a bridge) can be called over this way.
A shame we haven't seen the flying pikmin that showed up in the intro in one of the earlier showings for Pikmin 3, I wonder how that one operates? It looks like the rock pikmin just do a lot of direct damage and bounce off whatever they hit, so that's pretty similar to how purple pikmin work when thrown right? Or do purple pikmin stay on the target and keep hitting them? Pretty sure it's just direct damage, but I haven't played Pikmin 2 in awhile.
Do you mean the swarm/attack move command? Pretty sure that was possible by holding down on the control pad on the wiimote. It was a good way to get some pikmin ahead or around me when I was moving around, in order to reduce the chance that any stragglers would run into an enemy or a trap while I was getting somewhere
Yeah yeah I wanna know too!
Although, it could also be useful to indicate that pikmin on a higher elevation with nothing under it (such as a branch or a bridge) can be called over this way.Specifically regarding the crab, I bet the player will be enticed to use rock pikmin in order to break its claw, that way the crab can't block regular pikmin throws. It seems like there's quite a lot of "armored" enemies or obstructions in Pikmin 3.
Always-honest
Banned
If you're serious, call to the police as soon as you can. Your eyes have been stolen.
If you still have have them, start using them. Cause you might as well be blind. Seriously.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Why do gameplay videos always have a such shitty gamers playing the demo?
Looks awesome.
Looks awesome.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
Today's Pikmin footage got me thinking about the franchise. I'm far from an expert player, but I get the feeling these games are considerably harder to master than Nintendo's previous 'core' franchises.
What's more, it feels like Pikmin was designed to be intentionally oppressive. With Zelda and Metroid, you start off weak and very much at the mercy of the world, but gradually the tables are turned until you are in full command of your surroundings. That kind of experience of being empowered is something many Nintendo games share. Mario (especially 3D Mario) is also known for its gradual learning curve, easing you into mastering the game.
Experience naturally leads to improvement in any game, but am I the only one who feels that mastering Pikmin on the same level as mastering Metroid is considerably more difficult?
Maybe I just suck at it, but I don't get the same feeling of satisfaction in Pikmin that I do in other games. By that I don't mean the games aren't fun, because they are among my favorites. But I could never just casually play Pikmin for a half hour after a long day in order to unwind. Pikmin, as an experience, is stressful as hell, and the game constantly reminds you of the sacrifices you had to make in order to gain any progress.
You get nothing for free, and because resources are limited almost anything can be taken away from you once you've earned it. I guess it's one of those games like Dark Souls or Monster Hunter were the only way to improve in the game is to improve in real life as a player. Unlike Metroid or Zelda where your avatar is noticeably more powerful after several hours even if your skill as a player has stayed the same.
What's more, it feels like Pikmin was designed to be intentionally oppressive. With Zelda and Metroid, you start off weak and very much at the mercy of the world, but gradually the tables are turned until you are in full command of your surroundings. That kind of experience of being empowered is something many Nintendo games share. Mario (especially 3D Mario) is also known for its gradual learning curve, easing you into mastering the game.
Experience naturally leads to improvement in any game, but am I the only one who feels that mastering Pikmin on the same level as mastering Metroid is considerably more difficult?
Maybe I just suck at it, but I don't get the same feeling of satisfaction in Pikmin that I do in other games. By that I don't mean the games aren't fun, because they are among my favorites. But I could never just casually play Pikmin for a half hour after a long day in order to unwind. Pikmin, as an experience, is stressful as hell, and the game constantly reminds you of the sacrifices you had to make in order to gain any progress.
You get nothing for free, and because resources are limited almost anything can be taken away from you once you've earned it. I guess it's one of those games like Dark Souls or Monster Hunter were the only way to improve in the game is to improve in real life as a player. Unlike Metroid or Zelda where your avatar is noticeably more powerful after several hours even if your skill as a player has stayed the same.
Pseudo_Sam
Survives without air, food, or water
Good post. Pikmin is a bizarre franchise that can't really be compared to anything else. Maybe that's why I love it so much. And I definitely agree about the stress. The first was actually too much for me with the time limit, that's one reason why I vastly prefer 2.
Exactly. I am a little worried about Miyamoto's insinuations that Pikmin 3 will be more like the original than the second.
CoconutTank
Member
I can totally relate to that post
In addition to the points you make about resource stringency, one of the interesting things about Pikmin is that having a bigger army is not always better. In fact, a large group of pikmin can be harder to command than most armies in modern RTS games, and the amount of area you have to worry about is bigger as well since the pikmin spread out and basically have 1HP (with protection against specific environmental or elemental effects).
Swarming/attack moving works against smaller enemies because you'll kill them before they react, but big enemies such as Snagrets and adult Bulborbs have specific weak points that mindless swarming doesn't work well against. In fact swarming against big enemies is a great way to lose a bunch of pikmin at once! Hitting the weak points for those enemies (heads/backs) requires aiming your throws so that your pikmin hit them right, and throwing is a very bottlenecked way of commanding pikmin. So basically you can't just rely on having 100 pikmin and running everything over all the time, you have to work on your aim and find out what elemental or methodic weaknesses can be exploited.
Lord_Byron28
Member
You could see purple and white pikmin following him and there were purple pikmin in the ground.This trailer is terrible, the guy keeps letting his pikmin getting killed
Also I find it worrisome that theres no onions, purple/white pikmin or those number pellets at all in the trailers, it makes me think we just have to find pikmin everywhere on the map instead.
However now that you mention it it's odd how there weren't any onions when he was returning the treasure. However maybe that was the challenge mode where you start off with a predetermined amount of pikmin.
Is it possible to pikmin swarp with the wii remote? Like the situation in the beginning where he walks past a bullborg the pikmin wake it up. Normally you'd use the c-stick to push them against the wall to avoid a massacre but in pikmin 3 even with the gamepad the right stick is only for the map. Is it possible to pikmin swarm in the new play control pikmin 1 and 2 for wii? If there's only the whistle it'll feel like you have no control over them. Controlling pikmin with the stick was my favorite part of these games.
friskykillface
Banned
damn that looks insane holy shit at that sea monster type thing in the cave
wish it had a solid release date i want it now
so many pikmin will die ,wish they would put a online count of how many die lol
holy shit at that sea monster type thing in the cavewish it had a solid release date
i want it nowso many pikmin will die ,wish they would put a online count of how many die lol
Someone on the last page spotted white and purple pikmin ready to be plucked from the ground.This trailer is terrible, the guy keeps letting his pikmin getting killed
Also I find it worrisome that theres no onions, purple/white pikmin or those number pellets at all in the trailers, it makes me think we just have to find pikmin everywhere on the map instead.
Yes, it is possible to swarm in the NPC Pikmins. I forgot how exactly, though
Isn't it Dpad down with the pointer controls?
yeeeaah, that sounds right
Looks great.
I love some of the new creatures, especially the ones that look like fallen leafs and then suddenly sprout legs and scurry away when you get near. It's one of those designs where you say, "this could exist in real life, if real life was Nintendo."
... I want to see more of the differences in control style though. I feel like WiiMote w/ GamePad on the stand is the way to go...
I love some of the new creatures, especially the ones that look like fallen leafs and then suddenly sprout legs and scurry away when you get near. It's one of those designs where you say, "this could exist in real life, if real life was Nintendo."
... I want to see more of the differences in control style though. I feel like WiiMote w/ GamePad on the stand is the way to go...
Freezie KO
Banned
RE: Swarming
I believe in the original reveal trailer there was a "lock on" of sorts. The enemy was highlighted in red, and then the commander sent all the Pikmin at the targeted enemy all at once.
This may not be the same as being able to push your Pikmin up against a wall in a straight line to sneak by, but it seems more effective for swarming.
I believe in the original reveal trailer there was a "lock on" of sorts. The enemy was highlighted in red, and then the commander sent all the Pikmin at the targeted enemy all at once.
This may not be the same as being able to push your Pikmin up against a wall in a straight line to sneak by, but it seems more effective for swarming.
metalslimer
Member
I can't believe this game is taking so long to make though. Makes it much easier to not buy the system though knowing this is not out yet.
Lord_Byron28
Member
I on the other hand love it, the more like Pikmin 1 the better. More outdoor levels that require actual multitasking and puzzle solving please, the less random cave filler the better.
Chet Rippo
Member
You gotta flip it over for massive damage.
Mastering Pikmin IS difficult. definetly
But it feels so wrong to sacrifice them to poison enemies
so true, when I played Pikmin 2 I usually was walking around with no more than 3 or 6 pikmin and beign very careful with them, I managed to beat the game without losing a single pikmin
MvmntInGrn
Member
Beautiful, especially the lighting. I think it was running at 60fps at E3 though, wonder if that has changed.