Portugeezer
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You people saying "299 or bust" are crazy... you know that, right? That's simply impossible... IMPOSSIBLE.
I doubt the BOM would be much higher, of course, things like R&D also have to be taken into account.
You people saying "299 or bust" are crazy... you know that, right? That's simply impossible... IMPOSSIBLE.
I doubt the BOM would be much higher, of course, things like R&D also have to be taken into account.
Way too high. Sony has to hit $299.
R&D costs on these things must be sky high... they'd be best to eat that bullet and not factor it in. Unless they use GEN1 to mitigate most of that with a higher cost, I guess. But that won't do VR many favors, they need to keep the price down thanks to the super cheap alternatives out there.
I agree Sony should have a sku that is headset only, but I can not see that working well at retail. The last thing you need is for someone to walk into best buy, purchase the cheap sku, take it home, take it out of the box, start to set it up, and then realize that they need the camera, so they go back to best buy and then best buy is out of cameras. That's a horrible customer experience especially for new tech. If Sony sold it direct online they could warn you that you need the camera in order for it to function. From my understanding the camera has sold pretty well, it's also not the expensive. If they have multiple SKUs I can see a headset and camera bundle, a headset camera and move bundle, and a headset camera and ps4 bundle.hell they could have the camera in the box with its regular packaging and then people could return that or something.You need the camera and they won't bundle cameras with all PSVR so a 400~450 with camera
350~400 without camera and ~500 with camera and a move is my guess
So is better to return something you already have "used cause its opened" than buying something you need? Really??I agree Sony should have a sku that is headset only, but I can not see that working well at retail. The last thing you need is for someone to walk into best buy, purchase the cheap sku, take it home, take it out of the box, start to set it up, and then realize that they need the camera, so they go back to best buy and then best buy is out of cameras. That's a horrible customer experience especially for new tech. If Sony sold it direct online they could warn you that you need the camera in order for it to function. From my understanding the camera has sold pretty well, it's also not the expensive. If they have multiple SKUs I can see a headset and camera bundle, a headset camera and move bundle, and a headset camera and ps4 bundle.hell they could have the camera in the box with its regular packaging and then people could return that or something.
Way too high. Sony has to hit $299.
Headset only: 350. With camera 400.
Believe.
That would still put the package at a pretty similar price.PSVR's vanilla sku will be at least $200 cheaper than the Oculus. Period.
PSVR's vanilla sku will be at least $200 cheaper than the Oculus. Period.
No, for the "regular" experience you don't, that's why there is an unswitchable lightbar on the controller.Won't you need two move controllers? Yeesh, this thing will be expensive.
My body is ready for deceptive "starting at xxx.99" advertisements.
I'm still betting on $399. They said it would be the price of a console about, so I really don't see them making it more expensive than the PS4 was at launch
You people saying "299 or bust" are crazy... you know that, right? That's simply impossible... IMPOSSIBLE.
I'm personally hoping for 399, but I'm worried that would need to be the headset alone (no game, no controllers, no camera).
Keep in mind that this thing has an external CPU box that connects between the PS4 and headset... that won't be added in at no extra cost... OCULUS doesn't come with something like that.
No, for the "regular" experience you don't, that's why there is an unswitchable lightbar on the controller.
That's why there will probably only be 2 skus, one with headset alone (imo $299 to $399 possible) and a sku including the camera for maybe $50 more.
The Occulus at $599 includes: headset with two high res OLED screens (the PSVR has one 1080p one), a controller, a camera, a remote, a headset.
Imo $299 is indeed possible, even if I find $349-$399 more likely.
That's why there will probably only be 2 skus, one with headset alone (imo $299 to $399 possible) and a sku including the camera for maybe $50 more.
Can someone confirm to me once and for all that the breakout box does nothing performance wise for the console. I've read so much either way now that I'm no longer convinced that it doesn't.
Given that the camera has been sold separately on the market ($60 Msrp) for more than 2 years now, they HAVE to release a camera less Sku imo.No, the camera is required, not optional. It has to come with at least the camera. It would be bad for Sony to sell a SKU without the camera, have someone buy it, and then not be able to play a single game because of the camera requirement.
Given that the camera has been sold separately on the market ($60 Msrp) for more than 2 years now, they HAVE to release a camera less Sku imo.
There's no way they won't. That would be market suicide, especially if that is something driving the price up.
All the breakout box does it unwarp the image for display on the TV, and some 3D audio processing. It's not going to be expensive (from what we know at this moment).
What are we thinking, bumps cost up by $10? $20?
$50 would go fairly un-noticed. $100 would be eye-opening however.
Given that the camera has been sold separately on the market ($60 Msrp) for more than 2 years now, they HAVE to release a camera less Sku imo.
There's no way they won't. That would be market suicide, especially if that is something driving the price up.
No, for the "regular" experience you don't, that's why there is an unswitchable lightbar on the controller.
That's why there will probably only be 2 skus, one with headset alone (imo $299 to $399 possible) and a sku including the camera for maybe $50 more.
The Occulus at $599 includes: headset with two high res OLED screens (the PSVR has one 1080p one), a controller, a camera, a remote, a headset.
Imo $299 is indeed possible, even if I find $349-$399 more likely.
Way too high. Sony has to hit $299.
Sony probably knows exactly how many online PS4's have a camera connected to them... and I bet that number is very. damn. low. If it's 5% or less (what I'm thinking), it is not worth it for them to have a SKU without a camera only to appease that < 5%
Its nice to want things.
You mean wanting things like "mass consumer adoption?"
I agree.
Well the advantage would be to hit the floor running with an attractive price point. If they're already anticipating targeting the enthusiast market, that's a no brainer to me.
You mean wanting things like "mass consumer adoption?"
I agree.
This fantasy of mass adoption in the next year or two needs to die. I'm hopeful Sony targets performance over cheap price, or at least a good balance. A cheaper but worse headset isn't better for adoption than a more expensive but better headset.
I'm still betting on $399. They said it would be the price of a console about, so I really don't see them making it more expensive than the PS4 was at launch
what's so funny? you got a better prediction or the actual number or something?LMAO ...299
I find it pretty clear that Sony is aiming for mass adoption right out of the gate... while OCULUS is not.
Mass adoption is going to be a VR headset not tied to a console or PC.I find it pretty clear that Sony is aiming for mass adoption right out of the gate... while OCULUS is not.
It is going to be a hard sell to market a peripheral which is more expensive than the console required to run it.
Rift/Valve do not have this problem. Sony do.
lmfao not gonna happen sir not gonna happen.
VR is new not old. Id say 400-500$ thats a good price for them if they are gonna be competitive. 400 would be more Ideal
Oculus Rift is at 600 I think Vive will hit 700-800 Im thinking more 800 than anything from what im hearing.