The thing is, in Pokémon you're already at an advantage anyway. Opponents are in set mode, rarely switch, and almost never have as many Pokémon as you. Switch mode is trivialised by a set of glass cannons because of the free switch, where as set mode actually needs you to consider what Pokémon can take a hit switching in, or how to maximise coverage on each individual.
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The thing is, in Pokémon you're already at an advantage anyway. Opponents are in set mode, rarely switch, and almost never have as many Pokémon as you. Switch mode is trivialised by a set of glass cannons because of the free switch, where as set mode actually needs you to consider what Pokémon can take a hit switching in, or how to maximise coverage on each individual.
Well, in an easy game, additional constraints makes things interesting...
That's the reason Nuzlocke is so popular.
For all the fact that I'm not that fond of Sun/Moon main game, doing a monotype run felt great (well, it was still too easy because of Mimikyu, but at the same time, it could have been grindfest without it)
megarockexe
Member
I found the difficulty just right with that on, but experience share off.
And, I just now beat the game! 126 hours. 177 Pokedex. This game sure had its fair share of surprises, especially coming from Gen 3.
And, I just now beat the game! 126 hours. 177 Pokedex. This game sure had its fair share of surprises, especially coming from Gen 3.
War Raichu
Member
4 moves in a battle is fine imo, but they absolutely should do away with "forgetting" moves and instead just allow you access to a Pokemon's entire learnset (instead of making it an endgame move relearner thing). When they learn a new move, it's added to a movepool you can view in a Pokemon's summary, and from there, you "equip" the four moves you want to use in a battle.
The movepool can be expanded via TMs and egg and tutor moves, and the move relearner would solely be used for adding level 1 moves and level 80+ moves to the pool, to balance things for in-game purposes.
Poltergust
Member
Missing two game-winning Ice Beams in a row on a Sand Veiled Palossand is the the absolute worst. =/
I did manage to land one... which then activated its Weakness Policy. Great.
I did manage to land one... which then activated its Weakness Policy. Great.
It doesn't, as long as you switch (use the weakest pokemon as lead, for example). Well, you use a bit more potions, or go back to pokécenters more often.
I agree, as long as you know the XP mechanics, it's more tedious with exp share off, but definitively not harder.
(I still play with exp share off on my first playthrough at least, because this way, there's an incentive to see more than the pokémon that can beat 80-90% of the opposition single-handed)
Subtervotion
Member
Well, that's what I said: totally meaningless. Having a set of dittos with everstone and using RNG to see if you pass down ability isn't my idea of an interesting mechanic. You could maybe have said chain breeding for moves, but that would still be limited.
Well, I find battle boring, I just want to breedTo each its own... I don't think the game is just an interface to battling. Some people want a Showdown-like game, which is fine by me, but I disagree on the idea that the developpers should embrace this idea.
I mean, the fact that you can only catch a single time legendaries (and those are found in pretty much all competitive teams if you're not setting additional rules) is probably even worse than some time wasted in breeding...
Everyone has their own favorite thing about Pokémon. But it is a bit different to have breeding for perfect IVs be your favorite when you find battling boring. It's like building the best PC imaginable but you don't even turn it on. But hey, I admit I find enjoyment in breeding too. It's very fulfilling to finally breed the perfect baby. My only issue is that once you've bred a few Pokémon it becomes stale. It's just a grind. And I use 6IV ditto! It would be better if breeding started out difficult and got progressively more efficient and easier as you bred more Pokémon. In a way it does already, but not to the extent it needs to.
Porygon-Z @ NormZ
Dragonite @ Lum Berry
Metagross @ Metagrossite
I tried swapping out Dragonite with Toxapex @ Toxic Sludge but didn't have much luck. I'm ready to just call it quits at this point. :lol
This is mine but with metagross lead and LO Lele instead of P-Z
megarockexe
Member
Why won't anyone trade me a Sandshrew for a Vuplix? Every other trade has been quick and I know people need them.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
This was my same exact team for Battle Tree. Got to the 70s. Got lucky on my way up a few times, but totally doable. You don't really have to switch into stuff with this team unless you predict an EQ. Just setup and murder your way down the rotation. Make sure to lead w/ Porygon-Z.
Marowak is absolutely Admant or Brave if Trick Rooming. Everything else is a huge drawback to you and any strategy you might want to run.
Marowak hits hard thanks to Thick Club, which doubles his att stat. Because of that, + Natures are even more important, and can free up some evs to put in bulk instead.
Attleborotaco
Member
Any news when pokemon bank is coming?
Yeah that's the feeling I have. I planned on just making him hit as hard as possible. That's too bad.
Switch mode is inherently an advantage over your opponents since they can't do the same. Set mode just levels the playing field.
If you keep the exp share off for the entire game and never grind, you will become more and more underleveled over time. There's some variation depending on what pokemon you use, whether you bother to fight wild pokemon you run into, etc, but by the time you reach the E4 without the exp share you will be in the high 40s/low 50s, with the exp share you will be in the high 50s/low 60s. Those 10-ish levels can make a big difference in how you have to approach battles.
LO? I'm blanking.
Movesets?
What movesets do you use for Dragonite and Metagross?
Finale Fireworker
Member
How does using a berry in the Battle Tree work? Does it not actually consume the berry? You're able to use it battle after battle?
Consumables in battle facilities/multiplayer battles can only be used once per fight, but come back after the fight is over.
It's per-battle.
Dragonite gets Paralyzed, Dragonite eats Lum Berry.
Cannot use Lum Berry rest of battle.
Lum Berry is returned after the battle finishes.
edit: doh
Finale Fireworker
Member
Burning Justice
the superior princess
Managed to get a 59-win streak on Battle Tree Super Doubles with this team:
Porygon2@Eviolite
Ability: Download
Sassy (+SpD -Spe)
156 SpA, 100 SpD, 252 HP
-Discharge
-Ice Beam
-Trick Room
-Recover
Mudsdale@Sitrus Berry
Ability: Stamina
Brave (+Atk -Spe)
252 Atk, 252 HP, 4 SpD
-High Horsepower
-Rock Slide
-Close Combat
-Protect
Alolan Marowak@Thick Club
Ability: Lightning Rod
Brave (+Atk -Spe)
252 Atk, 252 HP, 4 SpD
-Flare Blitz
-Iron Head
-Shadow Bone
-Protect
Slowbro@Slowbronite
Ability: Oblivious
Quiet (+SpA -Spe)
252 SpA, 252 HP, 4 SpD
-Scald
-Psyshock
-Trick Room
-Protect
All of them have a 0 IV in Speed. Ended up losing to Cynthia on round 60.
My team is not great at dealing with bulky Water-types, and I probably should've invested more in Slowbro's bulk and less in its offense, but I just don't feel like breeding anything else with Bank supposedly just around the corner...
Porygon2@Eviolite
Ability: Download
Sassy (+SpD -Spe)
156 SpA, 100 SpD, 252 HP
-Discharge
-Ice Beam
-Trick Room
-Recover
Mudsdale@Sitrus Berry
Ability: Stamina
Brave (+Atk -Spe)
252 Atk, 252 HP, 4 SpD
-High Horsepower
-Rock Slide
-Close Combat
-Protect
Alolan Marowak@Thick Club
Ability: Lightning Rod
Brave (+Atk -Spe)
252 Atk, 252 HP, 4 SpD
-Flare Blitz
-Iron Head
-Shadow Bone
-Protect
Slowbro@Slowbronite
Ability: Oblivious
Quiet (+SpA -Spe)
252 SpA, 252 HP, 4 SpD
-Scald
-Psyshock
-Trick Room
-Protect
All of them have a 0 IV in Speed. Ended up losing to Cynthia on round 60.
My team is not great at dealing with bulky Water-types, and I probably should've invested more in Slowbro's bulk and less in its offense, but I just don't feel like breeding anything else with Bank supposedly just around the corner...
That's not totally true... unless I'm mistaken, each battle doesn't give you a fixed amount of experience that is shared among pokémons. Each pokémon get the full amount of XP. The difference is that with exp share on, each pokémon get half the XP even if it wasn't out in the battle.
Should you switch pokémon often, you won't see such a difference (put the weakest one as lead with a soothing bell, switch it out at the beginning of each battle, he'll get 3x the XP he would get with exp share, use affection and it's even higher, and if you can afford delaying the evolution, IIRC, it boosts it too). Also, if a pokémon is underleveled, he gets more XP, so that speed up the process.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Why are you using those Pokemon...
Bedameister
Member
My next team will be:
Garchomp
Metagross
Primarina
I'm not sure yet about Primarina but I'll try. Which one should I buy the Mega stone for, Garchomp or Metagross?
So far I haven't gotten far in the tree but so far my teams sucked. Only beast I had so far was Garchomp, he's so strong ^_^
Garchomp
Metagross
Primarina
I'm not sure yet about Primarina but I'll try. Which one should I buy the Mega stone for, Garchomp or Metagross?
So far I haven't gotten far in the tree but so far my teams sucked. Only beast I had so far was Garchomp, he's so strong ^_^
Mega Metagross is far better than Mega Garchomp
That you got so far with what are, essentially, trash mons, is a miracle.
Mega chomp is way better than mega meta in doubles, especially in sand teams.
Singles its mega meta 100%, even more considering the 3v3 nature of the tree.
superNESjoe
Member
So what's going on with Pokemon Bank? I've been out of the loop and waiting for support. I want to bring over all my guys from Red/Blue and X/Y.
HammerOfThor
Member
Finally beat the main story last night. I guess I should have expected to fight the Professor, but I didn't even think of it. Somehow my level 57 Solgaleo powered through all his Pokemon.
Ultra Beast time.
Ultra Beast time.
Bedameister
Member
Funny thing is I beat the main story a long time ago but I haven't even started catching the legendarys yet. Nor did I meat LeBelle so far. It's all about that meta game baby.
It's coming in January so I guess we'll hear something this week.
It's always been set for late January, so we're coming up to launch.
My money is on Wednesday
Haha. I don't like using Pokemon that everyone uses lol.^^ Using mindgame to survive is the best part here.^^
LordRaptor
Member
Fluffy Bewear on a rain dance or trick room team is a goddamn monster
megarockexe
Member
You can transfer from Red or Blue from VC? How does that work?
Only 3,000 more years to go.
Tacorona72
Member
I actually like your team! It's different and unique from usual Battle Tree teams I see. I too run an Assault Vest Bewear from time to time, and that thing is crazy.
HammerOfThor
Member
So was there something more to Lillie than
? I feel like the game hinted that there was but I probably snoozed on it.
just being the daughter of Lusamine
Subtervotion
Member
If you're talking about how she looks like a UB, the consensus is that
after Lusamine discovered the UBs she altered her child's clothes and apearence after them. That's why halfway through the game, when Lillie breaks free, she changes her style.
Finale Fireworker
Member
I'm brainstorming a Battle Tree team around Infernape. Does anyone have any suggestions? I usually run a wallbreaker and two sweepers.
I don't think Infernape would be that good on the Battle tree, he's fast but he lacks power big time. I guess Life Orb would be the preferred build,but he would work better as a late clean up rather than a wallbreaker.
Maybe Mega Lucario/Metagross for initial hole punching, a Lele/Gengar/Starmie/Koko For speedy special pwoer and then finish with a LO infernape?
Maybe Mega Lucario/Metagross for initial hole punching, a Lele/Gengar/Starmie/Koko For speedy special pwoer and then finish with a LO infernape?
The Shadow Knight
Member
I've had some fun with Fake Out/Overheat/Close Combat/Endeavour Infernape holding a Focus Sash, backed by a moxie user or Fell Stinger Mega Beedrill in previous games.
Poltergust
Member
It just occurred to me that Hyper Beam is a far better option than Tri-Attack for 3v3 battles when running a Porygon-Z with Normalium-Z, especially if it operates as a late-game sweeper.