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Pokemon Gold / Silver for DS announced
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shykyoichi
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Another 100+ hours for breeding my competetive team. Go Adamant Red Gyarados!EvilMario said:
shykyoichi
Member
At least 100.EvilMario said:Only 100?
Dabookerman
Member
I can do 100 hours of just soft resetting and in my sleep.EvilMario said:Only 100?
Bring it on!
You always could but it's very unlikely (like 1/x00,000), but it's far easier in the original Gold/Silver where breeding a shiney monster gives you significantly greater chances (like 1/64 or 1/128) chances of getting a shiney monster egg. This includes breeding with any shiney monster, including a shiney Ditto (which was easily acquired).Sonos said:
Sonos said:
There is the "Masuda Method," which was divined from Masuda's blog.
Basically, if you breed two Pokemon from different real-world regions (i.e. from a Japanese cart and an U.S. cart), the chance of the offspring being Shiny goes way up.
What's also nice about this is that you can customize the movesets more readily this way.
I've done it twice - I got a shiny Shroomish after 100 eggs, and a shiny Beldum after around 230 eggs.
You basically just clear out a cart and ride up and down Solaceon town while you watch TV.
I would be surprised, BTW, if they didn't fix the easiness of getting shinies in G/S in the remake, BTW, and normalize the Shiny ratios to be in line with D/P/Pt. It was purely a byproduct of how they determined shininess in those games (it was based on certain combinations of IVs), which has since been changed.
This is only for the original GAME BOY Pokemon Gold and Silver; this bug/exploit has since been removed, which means your shiney Croagunk's chance of breeding a shiney is the same as two regular monsters (which btw can still produce shiney eggs).Sonos said:
And getting a shiney ditto in Gold/Silver involved trading a red Gyarados to Red/Blue, having a Ditto mimic it, catch it then trading it back to Gold/Silver. When it's traded over, it'll be shiney.
lyre said:
ahhh thanks for the heads up. Too much work I'll just love on my wild Croagunk for what he is and hope I get another one day.
I got him on <15 hours on Platinum and it was the first Croagunk I saw on the game. I was really happy with the little dude. Plus he's actually a decent poke imo and funny when he looks back you after he gets tossed. :lol
Golden Darkness
Member
Are they on shortage of good announcers in Japan or something? All the trailers for HGSS (English and Japanese) have really bad announcers.
Edit:
For the Shiny talk...
The chance for catching one in the wild is 1 in 8192 (in all games), but more technically the chances are based on different IV combinations (in Gen 2) or based on the Trainer ID and personality stat (in Gens 2 and 4). That's why if you breed with a shiny from a shiny in Gen 2 you can get up to 1 in around 64 chance of getting another shiny, and why Pokemon from Gen 1 can be shinies when transferred.
The number might be easier to remember if you know it's 2^-13. The more you know.
I'm surprised no one mentioned this, but also the easiest way to get a Shiny in Gen 4 is the PokeRadar. The chance of getting a shiny peaks at the 40th Pokemon in the chain and stays like that. I think the chance is something insane like 0.5% or 1.5%, but I don't remember.
Edit:
For the Shiny talk...
The chance for catching one in the wild is 1 in 8192 (in all games), but more technically the chances are based on different IV combinations (in Gen 2) or based on the Trainer ID and personality stat (in Gens 2 and 4). That's why if you breed with a shiny from a shiny in Gen 2 you can get up to 1 in around 64 chance of getting another shiny, and why Pokemon from Gen 1 can be shinies when transferred.
The number might be easier to remember if you know it's 2^-13. The more you know.
I'm surprised no one mentioned this, but also the easiest way to get a Shiny in Gen 4 is the PokeRadar. The chance of getting a shiny peaks at the 40th Pokemon in the chain and stays like that. I think the chance is something insane like 0.5% or 1.5%, but I don't remember.
Why would you do that?
Member
Dabookerman said:
This game really can't come soon enough.
Watching that video was like watching everything I knew and loved about Pokemon become... updated by about 100x.
shykyoichi
Member
There's also what we call the IRNG technique.lyre said:
neo2046
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You guys, the easiest way to catch a shiny is to abuse RNG.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52180
Also, guy above me has a nice avatar.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52180
Also, guy above me has a nice avatar.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
neo2046 said:
Ah, so it's similar to the US one.
I still wanna know if we're gonna get the full package or if the walker would be sold separately (for moar monies).
overthehill99
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Pokemon is not new to coming with a cool accessory in the US. I would be REALLY surprised if we didn't get it packed in.Ookami-kun said:
perfectchaos007
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Sonos said:
me too! I just started up again a few days ago. The worst part about not playing pokemon for a year is all the mystery gifts you missed. I missed the shaymin give away and the mew give away AGAIN!
perfectchaos007 said:
when the balls was little Shaymin and Mew.
Damn you GAF. Damn you ALL.
I did get the Rotom key and Darkrai the other day so I'm pretty happy with that. Darkrai is a kickin poke.
sidenote: I watched the vid on chaining pokeradar and never got higher than 18. Frustrating and not sure what I am doing. I hate Pokemon. I love Pokemon. I am way too old for this.
CRYINGFACE EMOTICONS
Gravijah said:I wish I had a shiny Raichu
do-able in the garden.
welcome to hell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkeKPlBYYbs
I liked this vid best.
Chaining isn't easy and it has some really weird 'rules' that you will never know unless you experimented a lot or read it online.Sonos said:
I don't remember all they are, but one of them includes not going to patches that are in a straight line from you, and one of them is not going to patches that are in separate fields. You also can't have another wild battle in the middle, so Max Repel is needed.
I think you also can't walk into patches diagonal from you but I don't know. Maybe Serebii has a page about it.
It's surprisingly a really complicated thing, but it pays off if you want to get cheap, mass-produced Shinies. I think I got like 3 Shinies out of 10 tries the first time I made it.
The trick is that if you can't find a good patch (that follows the rules), you can just abandon it, walk 50 steps and try again. It won't break the chain.
The same is true for resetting the 40th chained patch. If you can't find a shiny patch on the 40th, don't go to 41 since the chance of breaking the chain gets higher, you can just abandon it and try again.
Edit: Huh, nice video. Does he explain the rules in that?
SuperAngelo64
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Gravijah said:I wish I had a shiny Raichu
I caught a shiny Pikachu on LeafGreen about 2 weeks ago.
First shiny in my entire Pokemon career.
shykyoichi
Member
I think my first shiny was a shiny Geodude back in Silver. I got around 10 shinys in my games (Silver, Crystal, Sapphire) until infinite possibility the RNG technique in Emerald and then DPPt.SuperAngelo64 said:
Sonos said:
I was going to ask if it were possible to use the radar to catch 'em in the garden, thanks. I haven't actually used the radar in forever so I guess it's time to re-learn it.
SuperAngelo64 said:
Trade you a shiny Weepinbell for it.
shykyoichi said:I think my first shiny was a shiny Geodude back in Silver. I got around 10 shinys in my games (Silver, Crystal, Sapphire) until infinite possibility the RNG technique in Emerald and then DPPt.
Is the RNG technique worth it if you're really lazy but enjoy ultra repetitive tasks like riding a bike up and down for hours on end?
Fimbulvetr
Member
SuperAngelo64 said:
Shiny Maril was my first, shiny Beldum was my second. Though I don't have either anymore because I gave my games away.
Still got a mew on Colosseum though(through trade obviously)....
shykyoichi
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How could someone who enjoy repetitive task be lazy?Gravijah said:I was going to ask if it were possible to use the radar to catch 'em in the garden, thanks. I haven't actually used the radar in forever so I guess it's time to re-learn it.
Trade you a shiny Weepinbell for it.
Is the RNG technique worth it if you're really lazy but enjoy ultra repetitive tasks like riding a bike up and down for hours on end?
I think it would be better for me to direct you to smogon's thread. They explain it best.SuperAngelo64
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Gravijah said:Trade you a shiny Weepinbell for it.
I'll just give it to you once I send my LeafGreen Pokemon over to my Pearl game and I get a wireless router for my apartment.
(Could be awhile...)
upandaway said:
Most of the rules I think and some I didnt see on others (like not going to squares on the edge of the regular surface). Only bad part about the vid is the quality is a bit low for seeing the screen.
He or she (hard to tell) does a good job in explaining thing clearly though imo.
wait wait, I saw something about a Mew giveaway, did I miss that? I know about the thing with Pokemon Ranch, man 998 Pokemon?
I am kinda surprised that other than the current online Darkrai giveaway, only TRU has had event Pokemon(Shaymin, Regigigas and the Rotom key). Seems like for Diamond and Pearl other stores were doing them(weren't Deoxys and Darkrai given out at Gamestop?)
I am kinda surprised that other than the current online Darkrai giveaway, only TRU has had event Pokemon(Shaymin, Regigigas and the Rotom key). Seems like for Diamond and Pearl other stores were doing them(weren't Deoxys and Darkrai given out at Gamestop?)
shykyoichi
Member
Why would you do that?
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Nobody posted the new Pokemon Sunday footage?
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbd-cU8NgcM
The Safari Zone... I'm confused as to whether or not it is 6 possible chunks that you slide around the 6 positions, or if there are multiple possible chunks that you can put anywhere in the 6 slots.
Also, it'd be cool if, like, a specific chunk would have different Pokemon when placed in different slots.
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbd-cU8NgcM
The Safari Zone... I'm confused as to whether or not it is 6 possible chunks that you slide around the 6 positions, or if there are multiple possible chunks that you can put anywhere in the 6 slots.
Also, it'd be cool if, like, a specific chunk would have different Pokemon when placed in different slots.