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Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon |OT| Where You Are the Pokemon
- Thread starter Battlechili
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Twilight Gap
Member
real talk, blue rescue team's story almost had me in tears.
a fucking pokemon game.
FleetingFlowAir
Member
Good to see the OT is finally made. Thanks, OP!
Reached the credits last night with a little less than 27 hours and I'm astounded at how so much of an improvement this is compared to GTI. I couldn't stop to put the game down since its gameplay has become so much more enjoyable, probably even better than what Sky gave. It has difficulty spikes that make it overall harder than any other PMD game (one dungeon and expedition in particular are already notorious for this), but the game encourages you to plan better and bring Wands/Orbs.
While Connection Orbs mean there are no randomized jobs, I feel like it's for the better since completing expeditions rewards you with multiple Pokemon.
The 3D models seem to look so much better here than in GTI, and while the main plot kicks off quite slow (kinda like the other games, bad things take effect in the background while you and your partner are doing other things), it seems to make up for it by the second half of the game.
Overall, I'd say it's just as good as Sky if not better since it fixed the many issues that GTI had and introduced some features that make it so much more deep.
On another note, I liked the little detail about your partner in the chapter about ghosts. Instead of walking alongside you in the overworld, they get right behind you instead and if you dash far enough from them (and assuming you have them on-screen), they'll stop in their tracks and look around all worried and immediately run back to you once you're in their range. It's small yet nifty to see.
Reached the credits last night with a little less than 27 hours and I'm astounded at how so much of an improvement this is compared to GTI. I couldn't stop to put the game down since its gameplay has become so much more enjoyable, probably even better than what Sky gave. It has difficulty spikes that make it overall harder than any other PMD game (one dungeon and expedition in particular are already notorious for this), but the game encourages you to plan better and bring Wands/Orbs.
While Connection Orbs mean there are no randomized jobs, I feel like it's for the better since completing expeditions rewards you with multiple Pokemon.
The 3D models seem to look so much better here than in GTI, and while the main plot kicks off quite slow (kinda like the other games, bad things take effect in the background while you and your partner are doing other things), it seems to make up for it by the second half of the game.
I totally didn't have tears at the Epilogue.
Overall, I'd say it's just as good as Sky if not better since it fixed the many issues that GTI had and introduced some features that make it so much more deep.
On another note, I liked the little detail about your partner in the chapter about ghosts. Instead of walking alongside you in the overworld, they get right behind you instead and if you dash far enough from them (and assuming you have them on-screen), they'll stop in their tracks and look around all worried and immediately run back to you once you're in their range. It's small yet nifty to see.
Battlechili
Banned
Just put the items down and nobody will get hurt. Just put it right back on the carpet.
I had no idea what the fuck was happening and he fucking killed me. 8 floors of Poliwrath River and it's stupid fucking Razor Wind Heliolisks, gone.
EndlessSky
Member
Wow, that sounds amazing, love little details like that. I asked this earlier, but are water and flying pokemon the only ones that get neat quirks of walking on barriers like water? Or is there a prevalence of magma that fire types can weak on, or anything else? This might make the difference between for who I choose for my starter since I can't decide between like four of them lol.
Two more days till I can play it, in the mean time I have to do this essay D:
Some ghosts should be able to walk through walls. But that has no effect on your starter lol.
Bit late here but everything I've heard about this one makes it sound like it's a big improvement over Gates, yeah.
Using an Oran Berry can boost your max HP for the dungeon which can help survive it. Shutting the Pokemon down with a wand or orb is also a really good way to handle it lol. The first time I encountered it I think I survived by dumb luck.
Tank one hit and beat the heliolisk before it can use the move again.
Very good and much more challenging.
TheSlySoul
Member
Yeah,
Vulpix kept dying to Salamence but I had plenty of seeds
I lucked out and that boss(?) only hit me twice. Me and
Victini
"Welcome to this massive room with a Heliolisk on the side farthest away from you spamming Razor Wind."
All of them except Gates to Infinity are a good challenge. I think this one may be the toughest yet.
TheSlySoul
Member
It is really easy in the first 4 hours, but once you get the team mechanics, the game gets challenging.
FleetingFlowAir
Member
It's quite bizarre how that is one of the first few expeditions and it's pretty much the one that will open up so many more Connection Orb requests. If it weren't for Wands being introduced and common to find, this game would have been a true hair puller.
To be honest, I never had an instance where I decided "I should grind a bit to make things easier for myself" whenever the story needed me to go to the next dungeon, I apparently just had to stock myself with the right equipment (and be lucky enough to not run into the worst things possible), especially a few Tiny Reviver Seeds.
Twilight Gap
Member
bwahaha i used to run infinite HP and PP and still get killed by those guys for stealing their shit.
EndlessSky
Member
General consensus seems to be Gates to Infinity is one of the worst in the series, and this one may be the best of the series.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
probably getting this, this week on thursday
can you skip dialogue? i don't really care about the stories in the dungeon series, (or any relating pokemon games, really...), or at least speed the dialogue up/options to? I hated it in gates of infinity took forever for text to scroll
can you skip dialogue? i don't really care about the stories in the dungeon series, (or any relating pokemon games, really...), or at least speed the dialogue up/options to? I hated it in gates of infinity took forever for text to scroll
You can hold B to speed through conversations.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
hahaha finally cleared through that infamous rotom mission
magwizsorc
Member
Was hoping for a bit bigger list of starters, but I'll go with Totodile. I usually go for grass but he's a fucking crocodile Pokemon.
MaximumSpider
Banned
I feel like leveling up is much slower compared to previous games. Anyone else?
Wow, holy shit. Maybe I enjoyed GtI because it was easy then, lol.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I always freak out when I get those string of Dungeons in these games where you basically have no way to shop or grind, but now I realize in this one you can chill at Pelliper Island and transfer items over.
I feel like a lot of people are forgetting about that and how it can help you in the main game.
Also, Official Super Mystery Dungeon Shit List
* Helilolisk with Razor Wind
* Drifloon's Acrobatics + double Gust
* Onix (dammit this guy is tougher than he ever was in the main games)
* Anything with Disable
I feel like a lot of people are forgetting about that and how it can help you in the main game.
Also, Official Super Mystery Dungeon Shit List
* Helilolisk with Razor Wind
* Drifloon's Acrobatics + double Gust
* Onix (dammit this guy is tougher than he ever was in the main games)
* Anything with Disable
Cow Goes Moo
Member
yessss
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Speed also affects accuracy and evasion from what I heard
HiddenWings
Member
I would like to add to this list:
- Mienshaos with Aura Sphere
- Anything with Bug Bite or Incinerate
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Yeah, it seems every Pokemon has their STAB moves locked like that. :>
Does anyone use stat buffs in this game? It seems like you wanna just go with all attack moves for the most part---especially since PP is more important than ever since your default attack is nerfed. I remember in the old Mystery Dungeons it was vital to use that attack on most foes, with the Moves basically being finishers and for opponent's who posed an immediate threat, but here the only purpose of the default attack seems to be to draw your opponent closer.
MillionVolts
Member
Really considering picking this up. I haven't played a Mystery Dungeon game apart from the demo to Gates of Infinity. I didn't care much for it, but this one looks a lot better, and I haven't bought a single 3DS game this year so I'm kinda itching for anything to play on it.
And just being able to play as best-starter-ever aka Totodile is a bit of a selling point.
And just being able to play as best-starter-ever aka Totodile is a bit of a selling point.
I can't comment on Super yet (gotta wait until February ;_
but I remember carrying Double Team on my Pikachu in past games and using it a lot against bosses. I don't know if other people like doing that but I felt like it made the tougher fights way easier.I also feel like keeping status moves around makes sense so you can use them once in a while instead of the default attack when you're drawing your opponent closer? Maybe not in this one if PP is that important now.
FleetingFlowAir
Member
I've trudged through the game with Treecko and Totodile but I didn't get any Agility yet like I did for previous games, so I had only attack moves and used buff/debuff items. It made enemies and bosses a non-problem, although I heard Speed is far different here due to GTI having Speed as a stat now.
DecoReturns
Member
I always enjoy the stories in these games, even if it seems that are just trying to get you emotional.
Do anyone of these games have actual fully happy ending?
Do anyone of these games have actual fully happy ending?
Pokemaniac
Member
Depends on your definition of fully happy ending, as well as if
we're including post-game content.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
So I got Victini... who was simply in the cafe... that's quite early in the game.
MaximumSpider
Banned
Did the developers forget Wigglytuff's gender? That's obviously the guildmaster from Explorers and it was a guy but in this game he is now a she?
Could be a localization error, perhaps?
(...Unless you're playing the Japanese version, I shouldn't assume, hehe.)
Huh, so I wasn't misremembering the basic attack being way stronger way back in Red rescue team.