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[FinKL]

Bounce this close in proximity to Team Ninja can mean only one thing.

This sadly makes the most sense

 

[IntelliHeath]

We need answers to "Bounce"
It could be sources corroborating each other's info and "bouncing" between each other, or it's definitely Amingo and it's bouncing cactuses!

Conspiracy theory: bounce = Dead or Alive = team Ninja working on Marvel game

 

[Platy]

There is. To the point they were going to do a FF/X-men crossover until Trank's movie turned out to be a disaster. That's why Simon Kimberly and Matthew Vaughn were producers on that film. FF is the only thing that's missing though. All the X-men films are in a single canon, married by DOFP, with The Last Stand basically cancelled out.

This is like calling the Star Trek or Fast and Furious movies a cinematic universe =P

It is called a franchise.

 

[Marvel]

Ahhh and now the bounce makes sense lol

 

[『Inaba Resident』]

god fucking dammit

oh i guess it's that time where everyone blindly believes what comes from 4chan

if by "everyone" you mean like 3 people, then yeah

 

[Professor Beef]

oh i guess it's that time where everyone blindly believes what comes from 4chan

 

[Skilletor]

Who wants a slower Marvel vs capcom?????
I hope that rumor is fake. Also 24 characters at launch is disappointing if true.

Tons of people complained about how slow MvC3 was before they learned how to play it.

 

[enzo_gt]

Ahhh and now the bounce makes sense lol

How?

I guess what's new there is that it's slower, there are only 24 characters, it's a soft brand reboot and they're putting effort into the story?

Tons of people complained about how slow MvC3 was before they learned how to play it.

Yep, this is to be expected.

 

[Jawmuncher]

I can't see it being 12 per side. The big avengers alone take up so much of the roster. I don't see them dropping any lead of their movies which takes you to 9 (including black widow).

Also leaves very little room for capcom unless they commit to one per franchise outside of like 2 where they can have 2

 

[BronsonLee]

Bounce = OTG

 

[Already Torn]

oh i guess it's that time where everyone blindly believes what comes from 4chan

I mean everything there has a solid source except for the 2v2 thing which has a somewhat questionable source

 

[LeMaximilian]

Making the final rumor video now, but the 2v2 makes perfect sense with the reboot suggestion.

Rebooting MVC allows Marvel to do one thing, start fresh on all the Fox properties. It also allows the gameplay mechanics to be refined and rebooted. DHC's, Xfactor, 3v3, everything is fair game. Assists are probably the only safe mechanic at this point, as it's been rumored. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing, but the current process of news and info over the last week (along with many of the things I've heard personally) leads me to think the Marvel Vs Capcom we could see on Saturday, might be a lot different than what we're all thinking it could be.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

 

[Marvel]

How?

Jiggle physics.

 

[Skab]

oh i guess it's that time where everyone blindly believes what comes from 4chan

C'mon, Beef.

 

[StriKeVillain]

I hope that roster number is not true.

Nibellion has already said the game will have a small roster. Anyone expecting a ton hasn't been paying attention.

Besides, this will get a TON of DLC.

 

[FSLink]

Bounce = OTG

Maybe they'll exaggerate it and also add ceiling bounces lol

 

[SpaceWolf]

if by "everyone" you mean like 3 people, then yeah

Please don't retroactively edit other peoples comments that happen to follow yours into your original post. It makes for confusing reading!

 

[I-hate-u]

I am pretty sure Capcom themselves don't even know the roster count right now.

 

[Megawarrior]

I tried to compile all the information we have thus far because as time goes on people are just trying to spread nonsense, and the OP isn't being updated. I left out completely unreliable/unaccountable stuff (4Chan, Discord), but all of this stuff shouldn't be taken as fact and people should use their own judgment.


Information:

Early testing for MvC4 will begin next year
Source: YogaFlame24 via Twitter

MvC4 will be announced at Playstation Experience/Capcom Cup, a 2017 Title
Source: Names withheld to protect them, but established members of the FGC/Ryce say it will be announced specifically after Capcom Cup Grand Finals.
Source: Polygon's independent sources point to an announcement more generally this weekend.
Source: Eurogamer's own sources corroborate an announcement more generally at the Playstation Experience.
Source: SneakersSO says we'll see it at the PSX keynote first. Mentions this repeatedly, as well as that what will happen at Capcom Cup will instead be an exhibition.
Source: Lupinko.
Source: shinobi602

Team Ninja is involved
Source: Names withheld to protect them, but established members of the FGC/Ryce.

No more X-Men, focus on MCU Characters
Source: Polygon suggests, with the author clarifying on twitter this conclusion was reached by what he was told to expect.
Source: Eurogamer corroborating Polygon's claims.
Source: Nibel via Twitter.
Source: A Malaysian animator via d3v of SRK, although d3v later said not to put too much stock into this as the source could not be confirmed

MvC4 will feature Ant-Man & Groot
Source: Polygon, with the author specifying that these characters were specifically named.
Source: Eurogamer corroborating Polygon's report

MvC4 will feature Dr. Strange
Source: Eurogamer.

"Good news for fans of Marvel vs. Capcom 3 specifically coming soon"
Source: Polygon
Speculation: A UMvC3 port to be announced at either the TGAs or PSX based on a sudden UMvC3 stream by Iron Galaxy, and Marvel-Related tweets by Iron Galaxy CEO, a developer that has a history in doing Capcom re-releases.

MCU Film Actors involved, there is no "4" in the game title
Source: Nibel via Twitter.

MvC4 is a Sony Exclusive
Source: SneakersSO heard about a year and a half ago that Sony made a deal with Capcom to develop a Vs. game, later specified as Marvel from sources close to Capcom.

Combofiend is the new battle director
Source: sephi22

Will be more casual-focused compared to SFV which is more competitive-focused, have big marketing push
Source: sephi22

The Gameplay will take a 2v2 + 1 Assist Format
Source: A Malaysian animator via d3v of SRK,, although d3v later said not to put too much stock into this as the source could not be confirmed.



Teases/Ambiguous/Probably Nothing:

Lupinko tweeting about X-Men
Source: A post-Polygon article beserker barrage of X-Men related tweets, some of which have #datmarvel.

"Bounce"
Source: A series of GAF posts by bishoptl: 1 2 3

Thank you very much for taking the time to do this.

 

[Bizazedo]

Making the final rumor video now, but the 2v2 makes perfect sense with the reboot suggestion.

Rebooting MVC allows Marvel to do one thing, start fresh on all the Fox properties. It also allows the gameplay mechanics to be refined and rebooted. DHC's, Xfactor, 3v3, everything is fair game. Assists are probably the only safe mechanic at this point, as it's been rumored. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing, but the current process of news and info over the last week (along with many of the things I've heard personally) leads me to think the Marvel Vs Capcom we could see on Saturday, might be a lot different than what we're all thinking it could be.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

MVC....!!

....FOR CASUALS!

Press Square for Infinite.

 

[BronsonLee]

MVC....!!

....FOR CASUALS!

Press Square for Infinite.

This is basically MvC3

 

[Jawmuncher]

It'll be less than MVC3. But I feel 15 per side would work better. Would still be smaller for a Marvel game after 2&3 but enough to work with for diversity

 

[Kinsei]

Nibellion has already said the game will have a small roster. Anyone expecting a ton hasn't been paying attention.

Besides, this will get a TON of DLC.

I know the roster won't be super huge but I'm hoping for at least 15 per side. 12 doesn't seem like it'll be enough to have one or two completely off the wall picks like Ammy back in vanilla MvC3.

I'm sure it will and I'll probably end up buying all of it.

 

[Platy]

Making the final rumor video now, but the 2v2 makes perfect sense with the reboot suggestion.

Rebooting MVC allows Marvel to do one thing, start fresh on all the Fox properties. It also allows the gameplay mechanics to be refined and rebooted. DHC's, Xfactor, 3v3, everything is fair game. Assists are probably the only safe mechanic at this point, as it's been rumored. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing, but the current process of news and info over the last week (along with many of the things I've heard personally) leads me to think the Marvel Vs Capcom we could see on Saturday, might be a lot different than what we're all thinking it could be.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Yeah it could be cell shaded SD characters in a party fighter =D

 

[BronsonLee]

Yeah it could be cell shaded SD characters in a party fighter =D

FUNKO FIGHTER

 

[Bizazedo]

This is basically MvC3

Disagree, friend Bronson. Casual meaning my idiot friends who are "okay" at Overwatch can play.

Casuals would get rekt in MvC3.

 

[Marvel]

Eh it's kinda small sure, don't think for one second DLC won't come out fairly quick though. Big cash to be made and we are all gonna pay.

 

[phaonaut]

Tons of people complained about how slow MvC3 was before they learned how to play it.

Was wave dashing a design choice or happenstance that turned out for the best? I can't remember.

I just hope its not another cross tekken, 2v2 has me shook.

 

[Skilletor]

I can't see it being 12 per side. The big avengers alone take up so much of the roster. I don't see them dropping any lead of their movies which takes you to 9 (including black widow).

Also leaves very little room for capcom unless they commit to one per franchise outside of like 2 where they can have 2

Have you seen my downloadable content, dawg?

Was wave dashing a design choice or happenstance that turned out for the best? I can't remember.

I just hope its not another cross tekken, 2v2 has me shook.

It's been in the series since at least MSH (I haven't played CotA recently to test), so it must be a design choice.

 

[enzo_gt]

Making the final rumor video now, but the 2v2 makes perfect sense with the reboot suggestion.

Rebooting MVC allows Marvel to do one thing, start fresh on all the Fox properties. It also allows the gameplay mechanics to be refined and rebooted. DHC's, Xfactor, 3v3, everything is fair game. Assists are probably the only safe mechanic at this point, as it's been rumored. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing, but the current process of news and info over the last week (along with many of the things I've heard personally) leads me to think the Marvel Vs Capcom we could see on Saturday, might be a lot different than what we're all thinking it could be.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

I agree, the idea of a reboot isn't threatening necessarily, and provides new opportunities to create a new vision for what a MvC game can be..

..but man I don't know what they'd have to do to make up for how much 3v3 does for team building, encouraging experimentation over time, and the general complexity of the game.

Smaller roster doesn't bother me TBH, it will always expand over time, especially in a game like this. 24 is a healthy number even if it's relatively smaller to the most recent entries into the franchise.

 

[Professor Beef]

C'mon, Beef.

C'mon yourself (teehee). I'm not the one running around like a chicken with its head cut off based off of rumors and a screengrab from 4chan.

Don't boo me, y'all should be booing yaselves!

 

[Jawmuncher]

Have you seen my downloadable content, dawg?

DLC is definitely happening. But it would be weird to see movie leads and roster diversification forced into that. Who knows though.

I just want Regina

 

[Leafhopper]

May i remind you guys how it went the last time Capcom made a crossovers of only characters made by themselves?

The roster was good, just it played like buttcheeks.

 

[BronsonLee]

BOO THIS BEEF

 

[FinKL]

Now I'm really confused. If Team Ninja is involved, won't the game play like Tekken Tag as opposed to ANY of the Capcom VS series fighters...

 

[LeMaximilian]

I agree, the idea of a reboot isn't threatening necessarily, and provides new opportunities to create a new vision for what a MvC game can be..

..but man I don't know what they'd have to do to make up for how much 3v3 does for team building, encouraging experimentation over time, and the general complexity of the game.

2v2 could mean the return of crazy horseshit like this.

Now I'm really confused. If Team Ninja is involved, won't the game play like Tekken Tag as opposed to ANY of the Capcom VS series fighters...

Yes. I am probably the most worried that MVC:Reboot will be a 3D fighting game. That would probably be the biggest departure from the classics in the 'Reboot' consideration.

 

[Xamtheking]

2v2 could mean the return of crazy horseshit like this.

Explain
Why are there like 4 wolverines

 

[Pai Pai Master]

I'm fine with 2v2. And yes we should really not expect more than 20-24 characters for launch.

 

[sixteen-bit]

If the new Marvel is 3D at least that means more 3D representation @ evo, lol.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Making the final rumor video now, but the 2v2 makes perfect sense with the reboot suggestion.

Rebooting MVC allows Marvel to do one thing, start fresh on all the Fox properties. It also allows the gameplay mechanics to be refined and rebooted. DHC's, Xfactor, 3v3, everything is fair game. Assists are probably the only safe mechanic at this point, as it's been rumored. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing, but the current process of news and info over the last week (along with many of the things I've heard personally) leads me to think the Marvel Vs Capcom we could see on Saturday, might be a lot different than what we're all thinking it could be.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

If we are going to get reboot marvel fighting game, I wonder the companies would grab the opportunities to overhaul marvel characters' movesets.

Edited: that would make sense for low numbers roster since it would require a lot of works to redone their animations.

 

[LeMaximilian]

Explain
Why are there like 4 wolverines

The Duo Team Attack mechanic from MVC1, four characters fighting at once on screen. Wolverine is just in his Speed Up super here.

 

[TreIII]

I tried to compile all the information we have thus far because as time goes on people are just trying to spread nonsense, and the OP isn't being updated. I left out completely unreliable/unaccountable stuff (4Chan, Discord), but all of this stuff shouldn't be taken as fact and people should use their own judgment.


Information:

Early testing for MvC4 will begin next year
Source: YogaFlame24 via Twitter

MvC4 will be announced at Playstation Experience/Capcom Cup, a 2017 Title
Source: Names withheld to protect them, but established members of the FGC/Ryce say it will be announced specifically after Capcom Cup Grand Finals.
Source: Polygon's independent sources point to an announcement more generally this weekend.
Source: Eurogamer's own sources corroborate an announcement more generally at the Playstation Experience.
Source: SneakersSO says we'll see it at the PSX keynote first. Mentions this repeatedly, as well as that what will happen at Capcom Cup will instead be an exhibition.
Source: Lupinko.
Source: shinobi602

Team Ninja is involved
Source: Names withheld to protect them, but established members of the FGC/Ryce.

No more X-Men, focus on MCU Characters
Source: Polygon suggests, with the author clarifying on twitter this conclusion was reached by what he was told to expect.
Source: Eurogamer corroborating Polygon's claims.
Source: Nibel via Twitter.
Source: A Malaysian animator via d3v of SRK, although d3v later said not to put too much stock into this as the source could not be confirmed

MvC4 will feature Ant-Man & Groot
Source: Polygon, with the author specifying that these characters were specifically named.
Source: Eurogamer corroborating Polygon's report

MvC4 will feature Dr. Strange
Source: Eurogamer.

"Good news for fans of Marvel vs. Capcom 3 specifically coming soon"
Source: Polygon
Speculation: A UMvC3 port to be announced at either the TGAs or PSX based on a sudden UMvC3 stream by Iron Galaxy, and Marvel-Related tweets by Iron Galaxy CEO, a developer that has a history in doing Capcom re-releases.

MCU Film Actors involved, there is no "4" in the game title
Source: Nibel via Twitter.

MvC4 is a Sony Exclusive
Source: SneakersSO heard about a year and a half ago that Sony made a deal with Capcom to develop a Vs. game, later specified as Marvel from sources close to Capcom.

Combofiend is the new battle director
Source: sephi22

Will be more casual-focused compared to SFV which is more competitive-focused, have big marketing push
Source: sephi22

The Gameplay will take a 2v2 + 1 Assist Format
Source: A Malaysian animator via d3v of SRK,, although d3v later said not to put too much stock into this as the source could not be confirmed.



Teases/Ambiguous/Probably Nothing:

Lupinko tweeting about X-Men
Source: A post-Polygon article beserker barrage of X-Men related tweets, some of which have #datmarvel.

"Bounce"
Source: A series of GAF posts by bishoptl: 1 2 3

Thanks for doing this!

Now...of all the rumors, the one thing that really sticks out to me is the Team Ninja connection. Team Ninja is still a part of Koei Tecmo, the very same Koei Tecmo that has had an on-again, off-again rivalry with Capcom, which then intensified thanks to the legal squabbles.

Stranger things have happened, but I'd be personally surprised if any segment of Koei wanted to do business with Capcom, after all that happened.

Though...then again, they've been talking about a big Western Collab for almost two years...

 

[OmegaSmash]

It the new Marvel is 3D at least that means more 3D representation @ evo, lol.

Marvel to take the Sunday Finals crown from Tekken 7.

 

[Professor Beef]

I actually would love to see what a 3D version of Marvel would be like.

 

[I-hate-u]

The Duo Team Attack mechanic from MVC1, four characters fighting at once on screen. Wolverine is just in his Speed Up super here.

So that's where sfxt got their cross assault.

 

[PSqueak]

Explain
Why are there like 4 wolverines

Play by play:

-MVC1 allowed you to make a special move that costed you 3 bars that would allow both your characters fight at the same time for a limited time.
-During this time you had unlimited meter, so you could spam supers
-Wolverine's Berserker charge super gave him an after image effect, if you go frame by frame you'd see multiple wolverines.

 

[V-Faction]

I prefer 3 v 3...

BUT. It's a Versus game. 2 v 2 is perfectly acceptable.

Man, nothing gets me more hype than listening to character themes.

 

[LeMaximilian]

I actually would love to see what a 3D version of Marvel would be like.

My worry is it becoming an arena fighter. I don't really have an issue with arena fighters, but the chances to seriously screw it up are much higher.

 

[Already Torn]

So that's where sfxt got their cross assault.

The spiritual successor to SFxT we've been waiting for!

 

[Jawmuncher]

I doubt that's what bounce means, bish was talking about MvC on his twitter and no hints to that