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[Neoxon]

I feel like you should just make a new thread specifically expaining this, so you don't have to keep repeating yourself in threads lol

I'd need to be unjuniored, first.

But yeah, this ban covers ALL Fox characters, as well as Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch on most occasions.

 

[L Thammy]

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: DEADPOOL IS NOT A MUTANT

He hangs out with X-Men sometimes and tried to join them but yeah, he's just a human who recieved his powers from Weapon X

Are mutants not humans?

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: DEADPOOL IS NOT A MUTANT

He hangs out with X-Men sometimes and tried to join them but yeah, he's just a human who recieved his powers from Weapon X

He's Fox. Same with FF characters. They'll be out if the xmen are out

 

[SephLuis]

My guesses on the Capcom side :

Ryu
Chun-Li
Phoenix Wright
Wesker
Leon
Megaman X (or EXE)
Zero
Dante
Strider
Morrigan
Samanosuke (Onimusha)
Gene (God Hand) or Asura (Asura's Wrath)
Someone from Monster Hunter
Amaterasu
Frank West

Other possibiities:
Arthur
Viewtiful Joe
Spencer from Bionic Commando
Ryu from Breath of Fire

Also, if the game really is 2x2, it's possible that it will be closer in gameplay to TvsC than MvsC3

 

[Producer]

It's weird how many of these things I would've agreed with years ago but now feel hesitant about. People have adapted to counter these things. Ok, Vergil's still BS.

Yeah true, but cmon at least morrigan doesnt need that. It will still help out certain characters and teams that have trouble dealing with them.

lol expecting X Factor nerfs.

It was nerfed in ultimate, it could happen again.

 

[Already Torn]

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: DEADPOOL IS NOT A MUTANT

He hangs out with X-Men sometimes and tried to join them but yeah, he's just a human who recieved his powers from Weapon X

PSA: Deadpool also isn't part of the MCU so he won't be in.

 

[trutrutru]

Well if there are no x-men. I wonder if at some point we could get x-men dlc. Like 5 or so x-men characters in a pack.

 

[Pachimari]

We need Inhumans up in this beast! Black Bolt, Medusa, Crystal, Lockjaw, Quake. Bring it!

On the Capcom side I just want Mega Man, Phoenix Wright, Dante, Amaterasu and Frank West. Throw in Leon Kennedy from RE4 and Rashid from SFV.

 

[Onemic]

I just want Black Panther and Mega man in the game

 

[Skab]

Roster speculation talks on this site are always so funny I cant take it hahahaha. No matter the game discussed

Roster madness is half the fun of these games on gaf.

Smash-gaf is still the king there though.

 

[Nirolak]

I hope they will allow room for some obscure picks as well. There's so many good characters that Marvel aren't pushing in MCU or that don't have their own comic series.

I think some of the obscure characters who aren't strategically useful within the next few years would probably be more likely as DLC.

 

[IgotElbows]

Wait. Why don't a lot of the LEGO games have FOX characters? Why would they do it there, but not here?

 

[Gren]

Yes and it's awful. Dude has lost it.

Nah guy can still do great stuff. He was probably rushed for SFV.

 

[Manmademan]

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: DEADPOOL IS NOT A MUTANT

He hangs out with X-Men sometimes and tried to join them but yeah, he's just a human who recieved his powers from Weapon X

we know this (though the Fox movie fucks this up a lot and says he IS a mutant) but Fox controls him anyway due to licensing deals etc etc.

 

[The Silver]

He's Fox. Same with FF characters. They'll be out if the xmen are out

yes i know, that isn't what the PSA is about.

we know this (though the Fox movie fucks this up a lot and says he IS a mutant) but Fox controls him anyway due to licensing deals etc etc.

i don't know who we is, there was a bunch of other posts saying he was a mutant.

 

[D-Man]

I didn't use any of the X-Men characters in UMVC3 but their absence is a major bummer. Really hoping we can get them at least as DLC. :/

 

[PSqueak]

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: DEADPOOL IS NOT A MUTANT

He hangs out with X-Men sometimes and tried to join them but yeah, he's just a human who recieved his powers from Weapon X

He is stil an X-men brand character.

 

[Tyaren]

Oh, I hope they nail Shinkiro's art style with the bigger possibilities this gen:

Guitly Gear Xrd showed it's possible.

 

[Neoxon]

Wait. Why don't a lot of the LEGO games have FOX characters? Why would they do it there, but not here?

Lego Marvel was released before the ban started.

I get what you're saying but I think you're declaring this a bit early. We haven't seen the contract on this game, we don't know how it will go yet. We do know Marvel games has recently had major changes and we know they've been talking with Fox. While that may not be an MCU deal, I think it's a bit early to assume this means that this "ban" will continue.

Marvel usually decides the base roster before development even begins. If this is coming out in 2017, then the contract was likely signed around 2015, when the ban was in full swing.

 

[enzo_gt]

In general, on the Marvel side, I'd suggest expecting something like 2/3rds major popular characters, and 1/3rd characters they want to push in the future (think people like not-yet-popular characters from upcoming films or Ms. Marvel, who they're pushing hard in the comics and other games).

Mind, this game is likely to have a ton of DLC, so I'm just talking about the launch roster.

It all depends on how much freedom they have this time around.

I don't think it's a good idea to assume negotiations are the same as they were with MvC3 because of how Marvel has exploded post-Avengers and Capcom has diminished a bit, but at the time there was a lot of pressure from Marvel to put in certain characters to test the waters for the future (i.e. Strange, Rocket Raccoon) but Capcom had a say in things and pushed a lot for certain characters either because they were important to the franchise (like MSS, Shuma-Gorath, etc.) or had unique and interesting gameplay opportunities (i.e. MODOK), which still gives me hope that they at least got Wolverine or something for the sake of the history of the franchise.

 

[Already Torn]

yes i know, that isn't what the PSA is about.

More of a nitpick than a PSA then

 

[Voysa Reezun]

Also, the only new character in SFV that I like is Laura, so I'm guessing that the obligatory SFV character will be not her.

 

[Dahbomb]

Lets talk UMvC3 port/patch notes

Morrigan meter gain during AV? Gone
Vergil Spiral Swords? Nerfed
Doom missiles gone on hit. yeah i went there
Zero buster nerfed somehow
Xfactor is always lvl 1

I think if they are actually serious about patching then they should try to keep things to a minimum this late in the game's cycle and focus more on bugs/unintended mechanics/features.

TAC infinite glitch, unscaled damage/hit stun attacks and Galactus hack should be removed without question.

I think top tier characters should get the stick and quite a few characters should be buffed. At this point in the game's cycle Marvel 3 is surprisingly balanced for the type of game it is. I think those characters you mentioned getting nerfed and the really low end characters like Iron Fist, Ghost Rider, Hsien Ko should get buffed a lot.


And of course there's a mythical patch out there that is far, far more in depth if they want to go deep into it.

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

I'd be pretty happy with Linn Kurosawa getting in, but I'd be surprised if it happened. Like, Vanessa from P.N.03 would be more likely.

I'm hoping this means a digitize release of th AvP arcade game will finally be released

 

[Prototype]

No wolverine, magneto or storm is gonna be weird.

Some of the Xmen characters define those games so strongly.

 

[Menitta]

More of a nitpick than a PSA then

It's mostly a WOW OMG

 

[cordy]

My guesses on the Capcom side :

Ryu
Chun-Li
Phoenix Wright
Wesker
Leon
Megaman X (or EXE)
Zero
Dante
Strider
Morrigan
Samanosuke (Onimusha)
Gene (God Hand) or Asura (Asura's Wrath)
Someone from Monster Hunter
Amaterasu
Frank West

Other possibiities:
Arthur
Viewtiful Joe
Spencer from Bionic Commando
Ryu from Breath of Fire

Also, if the game really is 2x2, it's possible that it will be closer in gameplay to TvsC than MvsC3

Hmmm...

What are the chances of Sigma being in the game? He's pretty unique, he's a villain which is needed on Capcom's side. Problem is that I don't see X, Zero and Sigma all in.

 

[nded]

Punisher for sure? With his Netflix show coming up and all. He can easily replace Cable.

It would be amazing if Capcom cribs the old Punisher arcade game for his normal attacks.

 

[mrmickfran]

That would be broken as fuck. This is Mahvel we talking hear, there would be some bullshit tech that would allow Gene to buy enough time to land a free one. I'm gonna have to ask you to leave the development team.

Hype is through the roof for a new Marvel though.

Just have him do his stupid taunt afterwards. Sacrifice himself for the super bar.

Game needs Sigma

He's the perfect Capcom foil for Thanos

Here's his battle theme

You didn't pick the right Sigma theme.

 

[Neoxon]

yes i know, that isn't what the PSA is about.

But he still counts as part of the X-Men movie rights.

 

[Sylverstone14]

Well, damn.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Nah guy can still do great stuff. He was probably rushed for SFV.

Probably,? More like definitely.

 

[Sesha]

I think some of the obscure characters who aren't strategically useful within the next few years would probably be more likely as DLC.

I guess so. It will feel weird hoping for DLC, but I'll take what I can get.

 

[BBboy20]

Marvel has been improving their relationship with Fox recently, so it's possible that Capcom could negotiate a contract alteration for DLC. Otherwise, they're fucked.

They gotta' negotiate Logan to be in the disc, at least.

 

[Skab]

Wolverine really did get wasted...

 

[SneakersSO]

Like, Playstation Console Exclusive, or Only on Playstation exclusive?

Nah, just that Sony had signed it, similar to the SFV deal. But I have no idea as to the status of the PC version.

 

[The Silver]

But he still counts as part of the X-Men movie rights.

did i not just say i know?

 

[Already Torn]

I'm guessing X Factor doesn't come back, that would be super weird without the X Men.

 

[Neoxon]

They gotta' negotiate Logan to be in the disc, at least.

I wouldn't get your hopes up. As mentioned earlier, the contract was likely signed when the ban was in full effect. Wolverine hasn't been featured in a post-CoC game in 2 years.

 

[Nirolak]

It all depends on how much freedom they have this time around.

I don't think it's a good idea to assume negotiations are the same as they were with MvC3 because of how Marvel has exploded post-Avengers and Capcom has diminished a bit, but at the time there was a lot of pressure from Marvel to put in certain characters to test the waters for the future (i.e. Strange, Rocket Raccoon) but Capcom had a say in things and pushed a lot for certain characters either because they were important to the ranchise (like MSS, Shuma-Gorath, etc.) or had unique and interesting gameplay opportunities (i.e. MODOK), which still gives me hope that they at least got Wolverine or something for the sake of the history of the franchise.

Marvel's new console effort is a bit different. They don't just license the IPs anymore, they work with the developers on a daily basis.

I think they would certainly take the dev's wishes into account as they view them as partners instead of licensees now, but I think that similarly the developer is more likely to be working toward the same goals as Marvel since they're doing so much coordination.

Like this could honestly be a four to five year project getting mapped out by the two in terms of support and some barebones plans set up for how to transition to a fifth game. They're already planning a whole series of Spider-Man games with Insomniac.

 

[XxSlasherMcGirkxX]

It sucks that there might not be any X-Men but for me personally I have always loved the Capcom side more. I'm just clinching for Gene and for Wright to comeback more than anything.

 

[What did he mean by this?]

*leans into the mic*

Put Carol on the cover, dead center

With Ryu, Steve and Tony applauding her and weeping

 

[flaxknuckles]

No X-men or Dr. Doom but we got Inhumans and Star Lord? What is even the point of making the game if the roster will be this lame?

 

[Sigmaah]

Game needs Sigma

He's the perfect Capcom foil for Thanos

Here's his battle theme

Hopefully they add me in.

 

[Zesh]

No X-Men is a big loss. Still excited for this, but that definitely deflates my hype a bit.

I guess pretty much every major MCU character is a lock, for what it's worth.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

Nah, just that Sony had signed it, similar to the SFV deal. But I have no idea as to the status of the PC version.

Thanks for responding. I'll sit tight and hope for it on PC (them mods) but also just assume ps4 only so that I'm covered either way.

 

[Producer]

I think if they are actually serious about patching then they should try to keep things to a minimum this late in the game's cycle and focus more on bugs/unintended mechanics/features.

TAC infinite glitch, unscaled damage/hit stun attacks and Galactus hack should be removed without question.

I think top tier characters should get the stick and quite a few characters should be buffed. At this point in the game's cycle Marvel 3 is surprisingly balanced for the type of game it is. I think those characters you mentioned getting nerfed and the really low end characters like Iron Fist, Ghost Rider, Hsien Ko should get buffed a lot.


And of course there's a mythical patch out there that is far, far more in depth if they want to go deep into it.

Yeah, most important stuff is glitches and bugs. They probably shouldnt do a super deep exhaustive balance change but just some stuff like i mentioned. Since if its real i doubt this port will get played much if mvc4 is around the corner.

 

[shaowebb]

NO MAGNETO IS A HUGE META CHANGER.

Dude has been a solid force and defacto assist for teams since Marvel 2. If Dr. Doom is absent as well for any reason then its gonna be a completely new world in terms of finding a good beam assist for teams (though Doom was pretty well Missiles by the end of MVC3).

Magneto rapid fire air mobility and triangle offense coupled with his zoning and fast conversions made him an easy choice for a great zoning assist/character to add to any team. Dropping Magneto is BIG.

My God I am pumped for this. I love series shakeups.

 

[RK128]

Okay, moving aside my annoyance of possibly not seeing any X-Men/Fantastic 4 characters, I will make my personal wish-list.

Marvel:
-Iron Man
-War Machine
-Captain America
-Falcon
-Hulk
-She Hulk
-Thor
-Loki
-Black Widow
-Black Panther
-Ultron
-Vision
-Hawkeye
-Ghost Rider
-Daredevil
-Jessica Jones or Luke Cage
-Iron Fist
-Groot
-Star Lord
-Rocket Raccoon
-Doctor Strange

Will share my Capcom roster wishes later.

 

[tabs2002]

No X-Men, sigh...