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[kai3345]

I heard somewhere that I could play on the PS3 version, and then using the steam cloud, go to my PC and continue my save on there. Is this true?

 

[teepo]

FUCK YES

THANK YOU VALVE

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Nope, I'm not. I'll just get the 360 version. I don't care about the ps3 version and I'll probably get the game on steam 1 year later when it's cheap on sale so I have motivation for a second playthrough.

Of course I'll only do that if it turns out to be great like the first one.

You're doing enough by supporting them so in the end you will be fine.

 

[YuriLowell]

pic telling me that i suck

so because I want to save some money i am bad person.

thanks gaf.

 

[Xater]

Conflicting info?!

The last time they talked about cloud saves they said that both versions have it, but cross platform does not work at this point.

 

[kai3345]

GZ: So you've got another 360/PS3 project in the works that isn't Dota 2?
JB: Er.. we've got other stuff coming.

lol

 

[Pikelet]

I could say that i bought my copy on Steam to support Valve. I could say that. But the reality is much less altruistic, i did it simply so that i could play it the second it comes out

 

[LiquidMetal14]

so because I want to save some money i am bad person.

thanks gaf.

I don't care what you do with it but aren't you at least compelled to try and see how the cross platform chat and co-op work? I guess this kind of cool stuff is only to exploit. That's how I would see it as you haven't exactly elaborated more on your decision to do this other than to be cheap. And no, I'm not being harsh but I'm merely reading and that's what I get out of it. Even if I sell it down the line, I'm excited to try the stuff Valve is putting on PS3 because something like this hasn't been done before to this extent.

 

[JaseC]

Yes, Yes and Yes!

Source of confirmation: Latest Qore episode.

Are you absolutely sure about this? I know the latest Qore episode is more recent, but Valve seemed certain of the following back in January:

Lombardi admits that one planned feature wasn’t ready in time. “We’re using the cloud so that you can save to Steam from your PS3, but we’re not involved enough to say that you can pick up your progress on the PC using your PS3 save – we ran out of time.

“It’s achievable, but it’s hard, so next time!”

 

[Shed_a_Ninja]

Isn't the PS3 version more expensive than the PC version? So, uhh, people reselling their PS3 copies doesn't affect Valve in any way. It's like they are paying more for the PC version. Valve knows what they are doing.

 

[Stallion Free]

I could say that i bought my copy on Steam to support Valve. I could say that. But the reality is much less altruistic, i did it simply so that i could play it the second it comes out

Pretty much this. No way in hell could I ever wait for a copy to ship to me. Especially since the ARG is hinting at a wayyy early release.

 

[hiryu]

Hah at people getting outraged at people wanting to trade in the PS3 version. This is clearly Valve's goal to spread Steam and they are willing to take a bite in the ass on sales to do it.

This is not much different than those online codes that EA uses and I don't see anyone acting all outraged at people trading those games in after using the code.

 

[DrForester]

Isn't the PS3 version more expensive than the PC version? So, uhh, people reselling their PS3 copies doesn't affect Valve in any way. It's like they are paying more for the PC version. Valve knows what they are doing.

Yes. $60 vs $50. However there are numerous deals going on, most notably the $20 amazon gift credit with PS3 version purchase.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Are you absolutely sure about this? I know the latest Qore episode is more recent, but Valve seemed certain of the following back in January:

That was then. Things can change. I know the feature is in as on the PS3 side but not sure about the cross platform back and forth part.

 

[Xater]

Are you absolutely sure about this? I know the latest Qore episode is more recent, but Valve seemed certain of the following back in January:

And I seriously doubt fucking Qore got some exclusive scoop here that was mentioned nowhere else.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Are you absolutely sure about this? I know the latest Qore episode is more recent, but Valve seemed certain of the following back in January:

Yeah I already stated that I misunderstood their statement. They mentioned somewhere in the lines of how you can play on PS3 and when you're on the go you can continue off on your laptop. I did read that they're keeping the options open and might implement it in future. Again, I can be wrong.

 

[NeoandGeo]

Well, looks like you cheap good for nothings can hustle your way out of a few cases of mountain dew for Portal 2. Put on your Costanza hats and ruin it for us all!

I can see used pricing acquired from Gamestop to reach 2 year old Madden levels within a week. Haha

 

[Owensboro]

so because I want to save some money i am bad person.

thanks gaf.

Wanting to save money does not make you a bad person. It's when you take advantage of a system set up in good faith that I have a problem with it. If to many people abuse it, it won't exist in the future. That saddens me.

 

[RealMeat]

Honestly, I think valve is far more interested in getting PS3 players to sign up for steam than they care about PS3 sales. They make far more money off steam than they do selling their games on consoles, and if this gets some people to switch it will be worth some lost sales due to excess PS3 used copies (which will still need a steam account). Remember, they gave Portal 1 away for free to kick off steam on Mac.

 

[SolidusDave]

Cross-platform-progress (?) between PS3 and PC/Mac is basically the only thing missing now. I'm pretty sure we'll see this in future valve games though.


So the following stuff is confirmed?

PS3 version:
-includes PC/Mac version
- you buy the game once, but you can play it on PS3 and PC(or MAC), even at the same time. This includes (free) local/online coop (also, in the console version you can play local coop via splitscreen)
- uses Steamworks (= should have the same content, patches etc. as the PC version). Steamworks features include also cloud saving (but not yet across platforms).

 

[Interfectum]

so because I want to save some money i am bad person.

thanks gaf.

No, you are a douche for abusing a pro-consumer perk.

Because of people like you is the exact reason why this stuff doesn't happen more often.

 

[Shed_a_Ninja]

P.S. Don't give me 'I got kids to feed' bullshit. I hope Gamestop prevent themselves from accepting trade-in for PS3 copy.

Rumor has it that they already are because they think the game can't be played unless it has a voucher.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

so because I want to save some money i am bad person.

thanks gaf.

Scalpers also want to save money. I guess we should love them as well. If you really want to save money: buy it in Christmas sale.

But hey, your choice since you have kids to feed.

 

[DrForester]

Rumor has it that they already are because they think the game can't be played unless it has a voucher.

According to the interview in the OP the PS3 version can be played just fine. People who buy it used will only be losing out on the PC copy.

 

[Vinterbird]

I heard somewhere that I could play on the PS3 version, and then using the steam cloud, go to my PC and continue my save on there. Is this true?

Portal 2 supports cloud saves for PS3 and PC. But they are NOT cross-platform. You can not continue your play session on another platform. The saves for each separate platform will be saved in the cloud, but they can't talk to each other.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

And I seriously doubt fucking Qore got some exclusive scoop here that was mentioned nowhere else.

Yes, true. Again, they said that a couple months ago. Things change.

Cross-platform-progress (?) between PS3 and PC/Mac is basically the only thing missing now. I'm pretty sure we'll see this in future valve games though.


So the following stuff is confirmed?

PS3 version:
-includes PC/Mac version
- you buy the game once, but you can play it on PS3 and PC(or MAC), even at the same time. This includes (free) local/online coop (also, in the console version you can play local coop via splitscreen)
- uses Steamworks (= should have the same content, patches etc. as the PC version). Steamworks features include also cloud saving (but not yet across platforms).

You can play co op cross platform no?

Portal 2 supports cloud saves for PS3 and PC. But they are NOT cross-platform. You can not continue your play session on another platform. The saves for each separate platform will be saved in the cloud, but they can't talk to each other.

They said this a couple months ago though so wait until release to see if it works.

 

[alr1ght]

Rumor has it that they already are because they think the game can't be played unless it has a voucher.

um, the OP disagrees with you.

 

[JaseC]

That was then. Things can change. I know the feature is in as on the PS3 side but not sure about the cross platform back and forth part.

Well, duh. That's why I asked if he was sure and added the qualifier.

And I seriously doubt fucking Qore got some exclusive scoop here that was mentioned nowhere else.

It wouldn't surprise me given Steamworks on the PS3 is a big deal and Qore is Sony's show.

Yeah I already stated that I misunderstood their statement. They mentioned somewhere in the lines of how you can play on PS3 and when you're on the go you can continue off on your laptop. I did read that they're keeping the options open and might implement it in future. Again, I can be wrong.

Fair enough. From the sound of it, you are correct.

You can play co op cross platform no?

Indeed. Mac/PC/PS3.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I knew you could play cross platform which is why SolidusDave's post confused me.

 

[McLovin]

Valve has done right by the PC crowd so hopefully people exploiting this will be limited to just the jerks that refuse to pay for their games. I already pre-ordered so I did my part

 

[Shed_a_Ninja]

You people ought to go work in retail at least once in your lives to understand how this works. Valve is not going to be negatively affected by this. They get initial sales of the PS3 version; GameStop deems such version as "useless" and doesn't accept trade-ins of it.

The only people who will be able to sell their PS3 versions are sellers on eBay, and your typical internet prowler knows that it will be completely useless unless it is brand spanking new and sealed. If a sucker buys it anyway? Oh well, it's like buying a broken used toaster or something.

The original manufacturer doesn't get money from you reselling the item that you bought from a retailer; and they don't give a shit because the retailers already gave them the money for the product that got sold to you.

This thread is indeed a carnival of stupid.

 

[YuriLowell]

Valve didn't set up that system to be pro consumer. It feels more like a fuck you to microsoft.

 

[Angst]

So people who genuinely want to play the PS3 copy are better off buying a second hand copy for cheaper, and since there will be shit loads floating in the market, this will dilute the price of it.

The condition will pretty much be brand new also since PC users will put it on ebay or whatever straight away.

Nice, you found an even shittier way to get the game.

 

[alr1ght]

You people ought to go work in retail at least once in your lives to understand how this works. Valve is not going to be negatively affected by this. They get initial sales of the PS3 version; GameStop deems such version as "useless" and doesn't accept trade-ins of it.

The only people who will be able to sell their PS3 versions are sellers on eBay, and your typical internet prowler knows that it will be completely useless unless it is brand spanking new and sealed. If a sucker buys it anyway? Oh well, it's like buying a broken used toaster or something.

The original manufacturer doesn't get money from you reselling the item that you bought from a retailer; and they don't give a shit because the retailers already gave them the money for the product that got sold to you.

This thread is indeed a carnival of stupid.

PS3 version is fully functional. If you buy it used, the only thing missing is the PC copy.

 

[Shurs]

I can see used pricing acquired from Gamestop to reach 2 year old Madden levels within a week. Haha

You people ought to go work in retail at least once in your lives to understand how this works. Valve is not going to be negatively affected by this. They get initial sales of the PS3 version; GameStop deems such version as "useless" and doesn't accept trade-ins of it.

A used copy of Portal 2 on PS3 holds the same value to consumers that a used copy of the Xbox 360 version does.

Sure, there will be more trade-ins of the PS3 version, but it's not like everyone is going to be trading in their copies.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

The main arguments are to the ones who will buy this just to sell it instead of actually trying the cool features that are never done (like cross platform play/chat).

 

[SlayrUK]

You people ought to go work in retail at least once in your lives to understand how this works. Valve is not going to be negatively affected by this. They get initial sales of the PS3 version; GameStop deems such version as "useless" and doesn't accept trade-ins of it.

The only people who will be able to sell their PS3 versions are sellers on eBay, and your typical internet prowler knows that it will be completely useless unless it is brand spanking new and sealed. If a sucker buys it anyway? Oh well, it's like buying a broken used toaster or something.

The original manufacturer doesn't get money from you reselling the item that you bought from a retailer; and they don't give a shit because the retailers already gave them the money for the product that got sold to you.

This thread is indeed a carnival of stupid.

Yes and most of us understand that, but for someone wanting just a PS3 copy of the game (like myself because I only have a 2 year old laptop and it certainly can't run games!) I'd be better off waiting and buying a cheaper '2nd hand' copy that someone has traded back in without playing.

Therefore Valve lose a sale from me that they would have otherwise gotten.

Edit: oh yeh, you seem to be saying game can't be played on PS3 without code, which is incorrect.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Well, duh. That's why I asked if he was sure and added the qualifier.



It wouldn't surprise me given Steamworks on the PS3 is a big deal and Qore is Sony's show.



Fair enough. From the sound of it, you are correct.



Indeed. Mac/PC/PS3.

I just rewarched Qore episode and holy shit it's like a lucid dream. They talk about cross-platforming but not cross-platform cloud saving. :/

 

[NeoandGeo]

Yes, true. Again, they said that a couple months ago. Things change.


You can play co op cross platform no?


They said this a couple months ago though so wait until release to see if it works.

I bet a big reason this isn't possible is the achievements/trophies would get jacked up if you allowed this.

 

[Shed_a_Ninja]

According to the interview in the OP the PS3 version can be played just fine. People who buy it used will only be losing out on the PC copy.

um, the OP disagrees with you.

Let me rephrase my statement:

"Despite Valve stating the game can be played perfectly fine without the PC voucher which is inside brand spanking new copies, rumor has it that GameStop will not be accepting trade-ins of the PS3 version anyway due to them believing that it will be useless to their used-buyers customers without the voucher ala Phantasy Star Online and the like."

Better?

 

[Carl]

Valve didn't set up that system to be pro consumer. It feels more like a fuck you to microsoft.

No, they set it up to get more steam accounts.

 

[Ysiadmihi]

The main arguments are to the ones who will buy this just to sell it instead of actually trying the cool features that are never done (like cross platform play/chat).

Yeah I really want Valve designing games around cross platform play. Hopefully Counter-Strike 2 will have recharging health, iron sights and a hefty amount of auto-aim to boot.

 

[chewydogg]

Therefore Valve lose a sale from me that they would have otherwise gotten.

Edit: oh yeh, you seem to be saying game can't be played on PS3 without code, which is incorrect.

They are willing to take that hit to get more Steam users who will hopefully start buying games from them...

 

[Kyaw]

Yeah, just going to get the PC version. Need to pre-load asap.

 

[theBishop]

I doubt we'll ever have good data on the degree of "abuse" because this game is going to be a smash hit on all platforms.

 

[YuriLowell]

Yeah I really want Valve designing games around cross platform play. Hopefully Counter-Strike 2 will have recharging health, iron sights and a hefty amount of auto-aim to boot.

subtle.

 

[Stallion Free]

Yes and most of us understand that, but for someone wanting just a PS3 copy of the game (like myself because I only have a 2 year old laptop and it certainly can't run games!) I'd be better off waiting and buying a cheaper '2nd hand' copy that someone has traded back in without playing.

Therefore Valve lose a sale from me that they would have otherwise gotten.

Valve gets 0$ from the used copy you buy. To them you might as well not have bought the game.

Valve didn't set up that system to be pro consumer. It feels more like a fuck you to microsoft.

Err, you realize it can be both of those at the same time right?

 

[Detox]

Yeah I really want Valve designing games around cross platform play. Hopefully Counter-Strike 2 will have recharging health, iron sights and a hefty amount of auto-aim to boot.

None of these have anything to do with cross-platform play. L4D uses exactly the same gameplay mechanics on PC and 360. Apart from MS there is nothing stopping cross platform play on official maps.

 

[Shed_a_Ninja]

Edit: oh yeh, you seem to be saying game can't be played on PS3 without code, which is incorrect.

Your edit has been owned.

 

[Shurs]

Let me rephrase my statement:

"Despite Valve stating the game can be played perfectly fine without the PC voucher which is inside brand spanking new copies, rumor has it that GameStop will not be accepting trade-ins of the PS3 version anyway due to them believing that it will be useless to their used-buyers customers without the voucher ala Phantasy Star Online and the like."

Better?

Why would it be considered useless?