Norwegian Rudo
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It was also a reflection of her having freed herself, yet not being suited for the harsh reality she happens to be part of.
Oh, and to the people bitching about the comics; the show literally told you to let it the fuck go.
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Preacher |OT| The Beginning Is Nigh - Sundays 10/9c on AMC
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It was also a reflection of her having freed herself, yet not being suited for the harsh reality she happens to be part of.
Oh, and to the people bitching about the comics; the show literally told you to let it the fuck go.
From Alan Sepinwall's review:
I'm about 3(?) episodes behind now but I've been reading reviews. Unless there is a crazy good hook at the end of next week's episode I think I might be done after this season.
Mac the KNife
Member
That Emily twist was stunning. Didn't know she had it in her (she might not have either.)
I'm really digging this show. While it doesn't ascend to the heights of BB/BCS, it's really scratching that itch.
I sympathize with the comic readers that can't reconcile the differences that the show offers, but I think the show is better for shedding away what won't work and building up compelling replacements.
I think you're right and it's an amazing twist.
I'm really digging this show. While it doesn't ascend to the heights of BB/BCS, it's really scratching that itch.
I sympathize with the comic readers that can't reconcile the differences that the show offers, but I think the show is better for shedding away what won't work and building up compelling replacements.
I think you're right and it's an amazing twist.
Freewheelin'
Member
lmao as if there wasnt a point to it. It wasn't reusing the footage out of laziness now, was it?
Pretty sure they referred to the parents as traitors and an abomination when describing Genesis in the diner, though
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
You could've cut those scenes in half to make the point he was reliving it, in Hell.
And tbh, thats the least of the show's problems
Freewheelin'
Member
I'm pretty sure you loved it two weeks ago.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
I did, but these last 2 episodes have really soured me on it
I get that its slow paced, but atm barely anything has happened. The writing has gotten weaker (Emily randomly doing what she did made absolutely no sense) and the story itself is just boring me
Hopefully it picks up
ffejeromdiks
Banned
I take it the cowboy isn't the SoK anymore?
Also, no "Good start"
Major DeBlanc & Fiore spoilers:So they are definitely Genisis' parents, right?
"You have no idea what it's like down there, believe me"
"It's alright, my dear"
Oh snap, I think you're totally right. When Jesse asked if it was possible to bring someone back from Hell Fiore said yes and Deblanc said no, it's definitely hinting at it.
Mac the KNife
Member
I didn't watch the show for a few weeks to let the episodes build up and... well yeah still not liking the show overall and did the really have to fuck around with
For people who kept talking about how they were huge fans of the Preacher comic book I wonder if these guys did more than read through the wikipedia entries on the show because their lack of understanding what made the story great and the characters entertaining seems completely lost on the show runners.
The Saint of Killers backstory?
More DeBlanc/Fiore spoiler talk:
In a very exaggerated manner. Almost as if he were trying too hard. The two issues I have with this theory is the wanted poster and that they can both come back to life instantly. Obviously we don't know how all this stuff works yet but seems strange a demon would come back to life in exactly the same way an angel would.
With that said, the evidence for them being the parents is littered throughout the show. The most obvious to me is during their meeting with Jesse. DeBlanc tells Jesse "We're from Heaven." Fiore tries to speak and is immediately cut off by DeBlanc saying "BOTH of us." Add to that the numerous hints in just the most recent episode and you don't even need all the other bits of evidence like how only Fiore uses the Angel phone.
Edit: After reading one of the posts above mine it occurred to me that, as far as I can remember, DeBlanc has lied numerous times while Fiore just doesn't speak or gets cut off when trying to tell the truth.
With that said, the evidence for them being the parents is littered throughout the show. The most obvious to me is during their meeting with Jesse. DeBlanc tells Jesse "We're from Heaven." Fiore tries to speak and is immediately cut off by DeBlanc saying "BOTH of us." Add to that the numerous hints in just the most recent episode and you don't even need all the other bits of evidence like how only Fiore uses the Angel phone.
Edit: After reading one of the posts above mine it occurred to me that, as far as I can remember, DeBlanc has lied numerous times while Fiore just doesn't speak or gets cut off when trying to tell the truth.
dead souls
Member
What an absolute slog of an episode. I checked how much time was left a half dozen times while I was watching it today.
This might go on my personal AMC discard pile along with both Walking Dead shows and Into the Badlands.
This might go on my personal AMC discard pile along with both Walking Dead shows and Into the Badlands.
How badly have you missed the point if you write the cowboy as actually being punished in hell for any period of time.
PepperedHam
Member
Loved the episode and the Hell reveal. Though I haven't read the comics so I'm coming at this show from a completely outside perspective. Hoping they turn it around for fans of the source material, though it seems unlikely if they're changing things up to a good degree.
I just enjoy the show, pacing issues or not. I like the setting, I like Tulip, and the Angels are hilarious.
I just enjoy the show, pacing issues or not. I like the setting, I like Tulip, and the Angels are hilarious.
Freewheelin'
Member
Surprised so many don't like this; I'm finding it very stylish, very fun, and very confident in how it goes about its business in a manner like Breaking Bad did from season 3 onwards; there is faith in its creative decisions and no little amount of panache in doing them.
It's largely very well acted and well scored, it looks gorgeous, is paced relatively slowly but not as glacially as (the wonderful) Better Call Saul; kind of also apes BB in its pacing. It's intriguing, different than anything else on TV and is a very entertaining way to spend my Mondays watching.
It's largely very well acted and well scored, it looks gorgeous, is paced relatively slowly but not as glacially as (the wonderful) Better Call Saul; kind of also apes BB in its pacing. It's intriguing, different than anything else on TV and is a very entertaining way to spend my Mondays watching.
I'm surprised at the amount of gaffers being sympathetic towards the mayor. He had been covering up for Quincannon for who knows how long despite the unnecessary deaths of people which could have been avoided. Not to mention he was technically aiding in the murder the Green Acre Group members by covering them up. At any moment he could have called the police but instead sided with Quincannon against a preacher.
Now Emily doesn't know any of this so it's kinda crazy she just offs her boy toy rather than idk attempt to rob a blood bank or something.
Now Emily doesn't know any of this so it's kinda crazy she just offs her boy toy rather than idk attempt to rob a blood bank or something.
Moff
Member
tulip already said a bloodbank didn't cut it, but that's more an explanation why tulip fed him animals, not why emily killed off her admirer
Problem with Emily, for me, is that the show seems like it wants us to feel like it takes place in the real world but in a weird little town where weird shit starts happening after this spirit demon thing escapes its coffee can. If the show gave off the vibe that we're in complete fantasy land where people will just go "oh, ok" when they're told that their friend is a vampire, then cool, throw some weird shit my way, but I don't think the show does that.
Still very much enjoying it, I just didn't think this episode made a ton of sense within the parameters set by previous episodes. On that note, how and why does Cassidy have a stash of angel hands buried in the Texas desert?
(One more complaint: seriously, we can't even get practical effects for a good old beheading or cut off limbs anymore? Come on! 30 years ago, those effects were so easy and cheap to pull off that they built entire 15-part movie series around them...)
Freewheelin'
Member
The seraphim.
As they ride right into hell.
Baldwin_the_First
Member
I would have thought it was the bodies of the 2 angels he kept burying when they first met lol.
Freewheelin'
Member
Oh, maybe that too. Either or!
Seraphim is one type of Angel. If it's following the comics (and it probably isn't) then they aren't Serphim.
Pyramid head
Banned
It's not about reconciling. It's about getting bored and frustrated waiting for the actual story to begin.
If this was how game of thrones had been adapted, the seaon 1 finale would have been Robert Baratheon finally arriving at Winterfell after his long journey up the King's Road. The first 9 episodes would have been filled with the Stark family's great banter. The season 2 finale would have been Bran getting pushed from the window. That's how slow this show is moving.
I wonder if Emily and The Mayor had sort of arrangement. Like she'd sleep with him in exchange for aiding the church or her family in some way. Or even something involving her former husband. After awhile she realized she'd always be indebted to him because of said arrangement and just wanted to be done with it.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
After thinking about it, I think the true reason for Emily's character assassination is (speculation for the finale)
So we don't feel too bad when she explodes into a spray of blood when God visits next week.
Now that I think about it, she kills the mayor because Tulip says that she can have Jessie. She no longer needs him, plus the sort of woman Jessie is attracted to is apparently crazy, so why not try living like the other side. Also she just learned that vampires are real which probably fucks with your perception of existence.
Pilgrimzero
Member
Really shocked by The Cowboys changes from the comics. Makes me think he won't be near as awesome as in the comics.
Such as the "Not enough gun." scene.
Such as the "Not enough gun." scene.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
The whole show is a fucking mess if you read the influence. I get why people might like it, but every element is so much worse than the comics. I feel making Arseface some psychopath or the saint just some murderous goober is the icing on the cake that consists of how they've fucked up the Jesse/Cass/Tulip relationship.
I am liking the story. The deviations from the comic makes me happy because I don't know where they are going and some of the scenes have been awesome.
I love the angels theory ... would explain why
And THEM the comic starts ? xD
I love the angels theory ... would explain why
they need to sing a lullaby for genesis to go to them
And THEM the comic starts ? xD
Right there with you.
Spot on.
That's not the twist. But I'm wondering if they already fucked up the twist.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Yes.
Shambalakan
Member
Wow! That was the best and craziest episode!
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I was enjoying this show right until the latest episode.
Total misfire.
Total misfire.
Stil enjoying the show, but the Hell montage was awfull and seemed like a ton of filler. We got it was a loop at the first repetition, and by the second or third we got it was the guy's own personal Hell. But it still went on and on, and included an unnecessary rehash of the whole story from a week or two ago.
Total slog and a big editing missfire imo.
Still looking forward to the season finale next week, but not sure how I feel about the show as a whole right now and its psycho characters changing their behaviors 180 from ep to ep (aside from Cassidy, who s awesome).
Total slog and a big editing missfire imo.
Still looking forward to the season finale next week, but not sure how I feel about the show as a whole right now and its psycho characters changing their behaviors 180 from ep to ep (aside from Cassidy, who s awesome).
Freewheelin'
Member
It went on and on to fully emphasise just how relentless and unending it was. If it felt like a slog to you, then imagine how it felt for the character they were trying to get you to emphasise with.
Quotes from an interview with Gilgun:
Quotes from an interview with Gilgun:
Shambalakan
Member
The Emily thing wasn't that strange in my opinion.
1. First she saw what happened to Jesse.
2. Then Tulip said to her that Cassidy is a vampire!
3. She should feed a vampire with some little cute animals.
And these things made her psycho, just like the movie she was watching!
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And about Hell, I really liked it and can't call those repetitive scenes filler. They were necessary for showing the concept of hell and this episode was about 47 minutes compared to other episodes (about 42 minutes), so they added some minutes for those scenes and I don't have any problem with it.
1. First she saw what happened to Jesse.
2. Then Tulip said to her that Cassidy is a vampire!
3. She should feed a vampire with some little cute animals.
And these things made her psycho, just like the movie she was watching!
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And about Hell, I really liked it and can't call those repetitive scenes filler. They were necessary for showing the concept of hell and this episode was about 47 minutes compared to other episodes (about 42 minutes), so they added some minutes for those scenes and I don't have any problem with it.
If the theory is real, I hope they picked Fiore's hands... or maybe the other hands won't work and reveal their secret ?
